Really is go for it now time. He’ll be looking for a payday at same time that Matthews is up.
- Canada Cup

I hope so, it means he will be a Rielly to Brodie quality and not Travis Dermott quality.

Like "I get a chuckle out of people who think" ?
- bobbyisno1

Sure, so everyone doing this (the snide, insulting comments about other people's opinion) can stop, please.

Thanks for pointing it out Bobby.

Who cares Fif'sy .....both Dubas and Keefe are here for another year.

I say our focused debate needs to be about the on-ice roster. What's the plan this summer?

Mrazek is job one ...and getting all the options for goal figured out. Might be as simply as a buyout, sign Jack and vet backup. I wouldn't hate it.

D is pretty locked in ...maybe Holl can be bounced to free up a few bucks.

If Mrazek and Holl are out then theres a few million (plus Kerfoots AAV) to find a better fit for Tavares' line.

Also need to find a couple of 800k 4th liners that can play and skate.

Wildcard move - Willie, if the price is right.
- The Law

I only say it because I get "the lecture" fairly regularly around here. People do the same stuff or worse responding to me....crickets.

But yes, more Keefe, more Dubas. It's gonna be different this year....!?

I've been beating the John Gibson drum for a while, because I think he's better than Jack Campbell. Mainly, because Campbell hasn't proven anything yet..

The Leafs forward group is solid still... The defense, as a unit, is good enough I think.. Lily has been better than I thought he was and he should have played more in round 1.

The goaltending, I like Campbell, I really do, but I just don't see him stealing a game/series for the Leafs.. Sometimes, a goalie needs to win you a game. In his 2 playoffs, he hasn't outplayed his opponent. Granted, it was against Carey Price and Vasilievskiy, but in a 7 game series, your goalie can't just "hang in there." They need to outshine the other goalie.
- PatC80

I know you're a big fan of Gibson whereas I am not. So tell me, your best fan guess at what a trade looks like?

Avs are champs .. but I'm pretty sure they're one and done.

No 1st or 2nd this yr - no 2nd in 23 or 24 and no 3rd in 24 ... Ouch..

UFA's out the wazoo...
Cogs
Burakovsky
Helm
Kads
Nichusken
Sturm...

All big contributors and UFA's ... most all getting substantial raises.. and not in Colorado...

Manson on the backend. Along with Kuemper...

They maybe can keep 3 out of all these guys.. Sakic work is just starting..


Going into next yr with 32 yr old Francouz in net...

Even with the cap going up... they got big issues.
- dozerD10

Can probably re-sign Kuemper or get someone who can do the job, he wasn't exactly lights out. They were pretty dominant making their way through the West with young dmen in Makar and Byram still just getting started. I think they're good for one more solid run next year, after that they have to extend Mackinnon and Byram which is when they're really going to have to make some tough cap decisions.

Leafs didn't win because of megadowner fans. Lack of BeLeaf. You guys have no one to blame but yourselves.
- Zezel

it makes me laugh... cuz fans are still going on about the leafs, when I have moved onto the summer Leafs (jays) who are still disappointing me today.

Sandin not signed yet...CJ said it but I am speculating as well that the Leafs might have some trade options and he would be the main piece. We'll see, would love to have him here long term as well.

I also think Lil earned a better contract than Sandin.
- Santo_44

Maybe but they do one at a time and Lilligren would be first priority. Leafs were vulnerable from offer sheets if both were unsigned. I’d still be surprised if they moved Sandin. They’ve been patient with both of them. Maybe if there’s a big return.

No fluff, that is what occurred.
Imo it wasnt an awful trade, the leafs got what they needed at the time.
It then opened up cap space the following year to continue to make improvements.
Kadri was suspended the two following years with the avs as well.
- Fakepartofme

It was an awful trade, and they definitely didn't get what they needed at the time, this is displayed by the idea that they haven't been a single step further since trading Kadri and Colorado happily fit him into their blueprint and just won a cup for it. It doesn't matter he was suspended with Colorado too, it matters they won a cup.

It was piss poor given the value they were peddling, with some patience that return could have been greatly improved. If Barrie has term that would have changed things because they would have an asset to continue managing, he didn't.

I've defended Dubas at length but this deal was not good work by him, it was the exact opposite.

Can probably re-sign Kuemper or get someone who can do the job, he wasn't exactly lights out. They were pretty dominant making their way through the West with young dmen in Makar and Byram still just getting started. I think they're good for one more solid run next year, after that they have to extend Mackinnon and Byram which is when they're really going to have to make some tough cap decisions.
- 13sundin13

I can see mack signing a team friendly team

I get a chuckle out of people who think that their farts are funny 👍
- Skalapy

well they can be if you are leaning on say the side of your car and it echoooo out loudly
or you place your hand on one check and you move it side to like playing an instrument , like letting air out a balloon.

or just light on fire.


farts can be funny

I could see DET trading for Holl in the next few weeks.

They need some D to fill out their D corps and they can probably flip him at the TDL for the same or more than what he would cost now.

Again, this works both ways.

There are people here saying I "hate" Dubas. I don't hate anyone.

I think that's slightly stronger language than me saying someone was "sugarcoating" an argument.

Yet I get called out for my comment.

Why is that??
- fifty__missions

I have said it multiple times now to everyone to stop, you being singled out is perhaps because you do this exact thing, multiple times daily. As long as that continues you can continue to expect to be singled out.

Maybe but they do one at a time and Lilligren would be first priority. Leafs were vulnerable from offer sheets if both were unsigned. I’d still be surprised if they moved Sandin. They’ve been patient with both of them. Maybe if there’s a big return.
- Canada Cup

I think Sandin is an easy contract after the Lil deal. Either the same or a tad less.

For as long as he is not signed I would think he is available for a trade, which makes sense to keep their options open but he is not untouchable in the least.

I think people are discussing two different things. Did the trade turn out not so good? Yeah it wasn't that good.

If you go back in time to when it happen, did it have the potential to be a good trade and did it look good enough coming off another suspension for Kadri? Yeah.

Not all trades work out. I wouldn't call it a disaster because Kerfoot has been excellent in his role for the leafs especially in the playoffs. Kadri has had some solid years in Colorado and an amazing career year this year.
- Aaron_85

See my other post, it was a bad trade the day it was made. Kerfoot has about 25 games as a leaf he was anything above vanilla, 7 of them were during the playoffs but they weren't during these playoffs.

Lightning winger Corey Perry became the first player since 1970 to lose in the Stanley Cup Final three years in a row. He’s the first in NHL history to do it with three different teams after losing to Tampa Bay each of the previous two seasons, first with the Dallas Stars and then the Montreal Canadiens.

See my other post, it was a bad trade the day it was made. Kerfoot has about 25 games as a leaf he was anything above vanilla, 7 of them were during the playoffs but they weren't during these playoffs.
- joel878

Oh well then if that's what you think then sure. No point in discussing it further. I simply disagree on it.

Liljegren extended. 2 years 1.4 per. 👍
- joel878

I did not think he'd get that much

Liljegren extended. 2 years 1.4 per. 👍
- joel878

I know you're a big fan of Gibson whereas I am not. So tell me, your best fan guess at what a trade looks like?
- Aaron_85

Again...

Gibson / Comtois / 10th and 22nd OA for Willy / Kerfoot / Mrazek & Holl...

yesssssssssssssss first place from pole to pole, decisive Cup run incoming

feeling it in a huge, huge (frank)ing way

- Zezel

don't want to be the president trophy winner.??

Nice extension.
Gotta move out holl and mrazek next.
- Fakepartofme

The Stanley Cup was awarded 12 hours ago. It's absolutely ridiculous that Holl hasn't been traded yet.

new blog everyone

I only say it because I get "the lecture" fairly regularly around here. People do the same stuff or worse responding to me....crickets.

But yes, more Keefe, more Dubas. It's gonna be different this year....!?
- fifty__missions

Can you honestly compare last year’s team to the 20-21 roster and say it didn’t improve? They’ll need to improve it again this summer even though there are big holes to fill. I don’t see why we should assume that won’t happen.

So...Kadri to Washington for a OV-Kadri-Wilson line? Lovely.

It was an awful trade, and they definitely didn't get what they needed at the time, this is displayed by the idea that they haven't been a single step further since trading Kadri and Colorado happily fit him into their blueprint and just won a cup for it. It doesn't matter he was suspended with Colorado too, it matters they won a cup.

It was piss poor given the value they were peddling, with some patience that return could have been greatly improved. If Barrie has term that would have changed things because they would have an asset to continue managing, he didn't.

I've defended Dubas at length but this deal was not good work by him, it was the exact opposite.
- joel878

They just won a cup 3 years after the trade and have made several other changes that resulted in that cup win
And yes, his suspensions did and do matter.
Imo, it was a decent trade that filled the leafs needs at the time as they trying to "go for it" that year as well. But babs F up barrie and his departure opened up cap for Brodie.
Anyways, moving on from the kadri talk ...
....onto goalies, dman and whatnot for the leafs.