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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 27 @ 12:32 PM ET
I think they only way I make that call is if Nemec slips a couple picks. If you want a winger, 9 is a great spot.
- Lunaion


Is Nemec or Jiri the one dropping in some of the mocks?

I'd trade up to 6 for either of em.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
Is Nemec or Jiri the one dropping in some of the mocks?

I'd trade up to 6 for either of em.

- DirtyDan


I've seen Jiricek drop to 9 in a number of mocks. Nemec is almost always gone top 4.

I could understand moving up to grab them (more so Nemec), but there's no scenario where I'm unhappy at 9. Also that move costs them 28 or 41+. I wouldn't do it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
Boss you're tip toeing a very fine line
- Stripes77


I like to play on the edge.

Appreciate the heads up 🙂
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
I've seen Jiricek drop to 9 in a number of mocks. Nemec is almost always gone top 4.

I could understand moving up to grab them (more so Nemec), but there's no scenario where I'm unhappy at 9. Also that move costs them 28 or 41+. I wouldn't do it.

- Lunaion


Yeah 28 would be a little much for me but I could consider 41
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
I could eat tomato soup dry. It's just tomatoes. Is tomato soup not a soup?
- Hank Balling

You can't even eat a tomato dry, even when it's sun-dried. Those things are 99% water.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 27 @ 1:10 PM ET
Really wasn't talking just Sabres trades, talking every team. Just think it's a weird year with this draft. Hell Chicago could do 3 themselves with Cat, Kane and Maybe a late 1st for Murphy.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
I've seen Jiricek drop to 9 in a number of mocks. Nemec is almost always gone top 4.

I could understand moving up to grab them (more so Nemec), but there's no scenario where I'm unhappy at 9. Also that move costs them 28 or 41+. I wouldn't do it.

- Lunaion

If Jiricek fell to 7, actually might see what it would take, is Olofsson enough of a sweetener for 2 spots.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
I like to play on the edge.

Appreciate the heads up 🙂

- Boss34


I wish we could play a game of hockey.
Would be fun.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 27 @ 1:17 PM ET
https://thehockeywriters....landing-spot-john-gibson/
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 27 @ 1:22 PM ET
https://www.audacy.com/wg...draft-profile-frank-nazar
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:22 PM ET
If Jiricek fell to 7, actually might see what it would take, is Olofsson enough of a sweetener for 2 spots.
- Buff36


He doesn't make sense for the teams we'd be dealing with, even if the value might be appropriate. Ottawa would counter with 28 or Peterka, imo.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
He doesn't make sense for the teams we'd be dealing with, even if the value might be appropriate. Ottawa would counter with 28 or Peterka, imo.
- Lunaion


Olo, 28 and 41 ... each would be an overpayment IMO.
Should be more of a 3rd or 4th if you believe the various Draft Value Charts have merit.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/schmit-2022-nhl-draft-profile-frank-nazar
- Anderdog


I don't get triggered much but every time WGR sees a small player it's always the next brayden point .

If they truly Break down the player character and all they see Similarities to Giroux
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
I don't get triggered much but every time WGR sees a small player it's always the next brayden point .

If they truly Break down the player character and all they see Similarities to Giroux

- gerbe75pts


Would you take him at 9 if Savoie was there? (I doubt he will be).
Would you move up to six to get him?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
Olo, 28 and 41 ... each would be an overpayment IMO.
Should be more of a 3rd or 4th if you believe the various Draft Value Charts have merit.

- IonSabres


I don't believe they apply to hockey. It's a league where you generally draft your guy, early in the first anyway.

Let's reverse it, would you move back 3 spots for a 4th?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
I don't get triggered much but every time WGR sees a small player it's always the next brayden point .

If they truly Break down the player character and all they see Similarities to Giroux

- gerbe75pts


all short players are brayden point.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
all short players are brayden point.
- TheSabresTaco

Tyler Myers = Zedeno Chara, member that.

Thanks Buffalo.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
I don't believe they apply to hockey. It's a league where you generally draft your guy, early in the first anyway.

Let's reverse it, would you move back 3 spots for a 4th?

- Lunaion


You are aware of the work done in this area? I ask because you have previously stated that the draft isn't an area you have focused alot of attention on...not to be an ass.

To answer your question though...it depends on your board and your confidence level in your evaluations right? If you had Savoie, Nazar and Kasper roughly the same...yes, be crazy not to . If you had 1 rated "significantly" higher, then no.

These public evaluations are all over the board due to uneven development opportunity resulting from covid... I suspect there may be some uncertainty compared to other years with the conviction of their evaluations.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
I don't believe they apply to hockey. It's a league where you generally draft your guy, early in the first anyway.

Let's reverse it, would you move back 3 spots for a 4th?

- Lunaion


No team would
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
You are aware of the work done in this area? I ask because you have previously stated that the draft isn't a area you have focused alot of attention on...not to be an ass.

To answer your question...depends on your board and your confidence level in your evaluations right? If you had Savoie, Nazar and Kasper roughly the same...yes, be crazy not to . If you had 1 rated "significantly" higher, than no.

These public evaluations are all over the board due to uneven development opportunity resulting from covid... I suspect there may be some uncertainty compared to other years with the conviction of their evaluations.

- IonSabres


Go ahead & list some examples of teams who moved back 2 spots- in the top10- for only a 4th
🤣🤣🤣
There’s no chance dude
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 1:55 PM ET
Go ahead & list some examples of teams who moved back to spots- in the top10- for only a 4th
🤣🤣🤣
There’s no chance dude

- jdfitz77


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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:55 PM ET
Go ahead & list some examples of teams who moved back to spots- in the top10- for only a 4th
🤣🤣🤣
There’s no chance dude

- jdfitz77


List the times a team has moved back in the top 10 period...by 2 spots...(7 to 9)
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
List the times a team has moved back in the top 10 period...by 2 spots...(7 to 9)
- IonSabres


Bc it costs more than a 3rd or 4th

If the cost was that cheap, teams would do it all the time
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:01 PM ET
Bc it costs more than a 3rd or 4th

If the cost was that cheap, teams would do it all the time

- jdfitz77


So you dont have anything to support your supposition?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:02 PM ET
I wish we could play a game of hockey.
Would be fun.

- IonSabres


Fun, lots of fun.

Then the game would start. The fun would end.

Stripes would call you for a bunch of retaliation penalties 😉
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