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- TheSabresTaco

Bc Ion thinks it would only cost a 3rd or 4th to move up to pick 7

If that’s true,
then the Sabres should certainly do that
Heck, just about every team in every year should

So you dont have anything to support your supposition?
- IonSabres

That it doesn’t happen supports my position

What do u have to support yours?

You are aware of the work done in this area? I ask because you have previously stated that the draft isn't an area you have focused alot of attention on...not to be an ass.

To answer your question though...it depends on your board and your confidence level in your evaluations right? If you had Savoie, Nazar and Kasper roughly the same...yes, be crazy not to . If you had 1 rated "significantly" higher, than no.

These public evaluations are all over the board due to uneven development opportunity resulting from covid... I suspect there may be some uncertainty compared to other years with the conviction of their evaluations.
- IonSabres

I think you misunderstood me. I follow the draft, but I don't follow prospects year round the way others do. I'm in the same boat as Hank.

The draft is fun to me, not looking to fight with anyone.

Would you take him at 9 if Savoie was there? (I doubt he will be).
Would you move up to six to get him?
- IonSabres

I think he's the guy
Adams still can watch portilo and hopefully have contact with him.
Nazar fits with the speed

Apparently Isles and Habs working on Josh Anderson for 13 overall. Per NRD.

Apparently Isles and Habs working on Josh Anderson for 13 overall. Per NRD.
- ImThatGuy

Have we settled the debate as to whether that guy is reliable or not?

So you dont have anything to support your supposition?
- IonSabres

2002 on draft day

florida with the first round overall pick traded it to c bus for pick 3 overall

the terms of the trade was the panthers could swap first round picks at the 2003 draft with the blue jackets if they wanted to

of course the panthers had the first overall pick in the 2003 draft and traded it to the pens on draft day instead of swapping with blue jackets

so in essence the panthers traded back in the 2002 draft, 2 spots from pick 1 to pick 3 for nothing

That it doesn’t happen supports my position

What do u have to support yours?
- jdfitz77

Columbus Blue Jackets acquire Date Florida Panthers acquire
2002 1st round pick (#1-Rick Nash)
Panthers option to swap 2003 1st round picks (not exercised)
June 22, 2002
2002 1st round pick (#3-Jay Bouwmeester)
Panthers option to swap 2003 1st round picks (not exercised)



http://www.nhltradetracke...m/Columbus_Blue_Jackets/8

Apparently Isles and Habs working on Josh Anderson for 13 overall. Per NRD.
- ImThatGuy

That would be a steal for a rebuilding MTL team

Apparently Isles and Habs working on Josh Anderson for 13 overall. Per NRD.
- ImThatGuy

guy is just full of hits

Have we settled the debate as to whether that guy is reliable or not?
- buffalofan19

he's a garbage people from staten island.

Columbus Blue Jackets acquire Date Florida Panthers acquire
2002 1st round pick (#1-Rick Nash)
Panthers option to swap 2003 1st round picks (not exercised)
June 22, 2002
2002 1st round pick (#3-Jay Bouwmeester)
Panthers option to swap 2003 1st round picks (not exercised)



http://www.nhltradetracke...m/Columbus_Blue_Jackets/8
- homiedclown

And that trade was so bad that nothing like it has happened in the last 20years

Sabres had to give up a 3rd to move up 1 spot in the teens (13 to 12, i believe) to draft Tyler Myers
And that was 2008ish

And that trade was so bad that nothing like it has happened in the last 20years

Sabres had to give up a 3rd to move up 1 spot in the teens (13 to 12, i believe) to draft Tyler Myers
And that was 2008ish
- jdfitz77

you asked for an example


they moved back 2 spots for nothing


take the L

personally i believe this draft would not cost too much to move up a pick or two in the first round. last year to move from 22 to 20 cost a late third. From 9 to 7, I bet the Vegas 23 2nd is enough.

Did we talk about Aube-Kubel denting the cup last night? Hilarious!

personally i believe this draft would not cost too much to move up a pick or two in the first round. last year to move from 22 to 20 cost a late third. From 9 to 7, I bet the Vegas 23 2nd is enough.
- TheSabresTaco

my guess is it's all dependent on each teams draft board and how much they like 1 guy over the other 2 possibilities

botts wanted to move up to pick 5 in 18 draft with nucks from pick 8 and nucks wanted nothing to do with it

personally i believe this draft would not cost too much to move up a pick or two in the first round. last year to move from 22 to 20 cost a late third. From 9 to 7, I bet the Vegas 23 2nd is enough.
- TheSabresTaco

I don’t think Ottawa is interested in moving back

you asked for an example

they moved back 2 spots for nothing

take the L
- homiedclown

No, i asked for exampleS
That’s examples, with an “s”
As in multiple times it’s happened that would create a trend

But once again, you can’t read or interpret correctly
Thanks for playing though

I don’t think Ottawa is interested in moving back
- joshs

eh. you never know. if they can get a free pick from just having a field of guys available to them that they like, who knows.

No, i asked for exampleS
That’s examples, with an “s”
As in multiple times it’s happened that would create a trend

But once again, you can’t read or interpret correctly
Thanks for playing though
- jdfitz77

you are always right in your mind


take the L, you earned it

eh. you never know. if they can get a free pick from just having a field of guys available to them that they like, who knows.
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah true. Im fairly interested in the possibility of getting 1 of Seattle, Philly or Columbus to trade their pick for pick 16 and 28.

Have we settled the debate as to whether that guy is reliable or not?
- buffalofan19

I have no reason not to believe him.

Fun, lots of fun.

Then the game would start. The fun would end.

Stripes would call you for a bunch of retaliation penalties 😉
- Boss34

Lol.
Refs always get the retaliation, not the instigator.
Hence why you would be on a stretcher at the 19:58 mark.

Good day.

Per the Athletic's value chart



The difference between 9 and 7 is 0.8. An early 4th round pick is an acceptable add to make the trade even, valued at 0.8.

Michael Schucker, a statistical professor at St Lawrence U, came up with a different value system.



The difference between 9 and 7 is 69 points (nice). This would make a 6th round pick as an acceptable return. Clearly this is off the table because the Clown's nuggets would implode.

So, as Fitz incorrectly surmised, a 3rd or 4th round return is not 3 laughy faces. It is zero, or at most one, if the trade partner is firm in his selection in his position.

Yeah true. Im fairly interested in the possibility of getting 1 of Seattle, Philly or Columbus to trade their pick for pick 16 and 28.
- joshs

I could care less about trading up, overall. It's always a little exciting when it happens, but the logic side to me says stay put at 9. Now, 28, yeah maybe shuffle up 2 or 3 to ensure a JJP. Just don't be wrong.