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Forums :: Blog World :: Hank Balling: Evaluating the Sabres’ Most Likely Pick at 9th Overall
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Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
Buffalo is interested
- gerbe75pts



Before this year he was talked about as the #2 overall wasn’t he?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
Before this year he was talked about as the #2 overall wasn’t he?
- Fattony1187


I think the #1
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 11:58 AM ET
Is nemec worth packaging a deal to get?
- joshs

Yes
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:01 PM ET
Before this year he was talked about as the #2 overall wasn’t he?
- Fattony1187


Yes but with his rough year and little attitude problems and his family getting in the way.

he just got forgotten and red flaged

And others just passed him.

But if a team unlocks his full potential you could have a franchise player
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:04 PM ET
I think the #1
- DirtyDan


It was always wright , Savoie, lambert for 1 called it the 3 headed monster draft.

Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
Yes but with his rough year and little attitude problems and his family getting in the way.

he just got forgotten and red flaged

And others just passed him.

But if a team unlocks his full potential you could have a franchise player

- gerbe75pts


At 16 not a bad gamble. If he turns up a 3rd line 40pt player that’s not horrible. He becomes a 55pt 2nd line player, that’s a nice win at 16
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 4 @ 12:07 PM ET
It was always wright , Savoie, lambert for 1 called it the 3 headed monster draft.
- gerbe75pts


Savoie/Lambert/Miro

Would be huge in the future
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
Savoie/Lambert/Miro

Would be huge in the future

- DirtyDan



Could happen too
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:15 PM ET
Yes but with his rough year and little attitude problems and his family getting in the way.

he just got forgotten and red flaged

And others just passed him.

But if a team unlocks his full potential you could have a franchise player

- gerbe75pts




Barf. Especially the family part. We all know how that ends up.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 4 @ 12:19 PM ET
Could happen too
- Fattony1187


That'd be a lot of talent to infuse in our group
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 4 @ 12:23 PM ET
Barf. Especially the family part. We all know how that ends up.
- Powerslave


Bonnie lindros
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:26 PM ET
Is nemec worth packaging a deal to get?
- joshs


Depends on the cost and how much you have to pay to move up. If it only costs you #41 and maybe a Johnson/Portillo to move from 9 to like 6, I'd say yes in a second. if it's costing you 28 and a prospect I'm not sure. I do know we need a top RHD in the portal
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:27 PM ET
Bonnie lindros
- Boss34



Among others
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
Is Nikita Zaitsiev a good fit
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:30 PM ET
It was always wright , Savoie, lambert for 1 called it the 3 headed monster draft.
- gerbe75pts


It's crazy to think that Savoie at 9 and Lambert at 16 is an actual possibility, after the way this draft was advertised a year ago.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 4 @ 12:45 PM ET
It's crazy to think that Savoie at 9 and Lambert at 16 is an actual possibility, after the way this draft was advertised a year ago.
- Lunaion


Would you be happy with those picks , in those spots?

Savoie 9
Lambert 16

Next year a couple local kids are going to be drafted most likely.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:48 PM ET
Would you be happy with those picks , in those spots?

Savoie 9
Lambert 16

Next year a couple local kids are going to be drafted most likely.

- Boss34


Would be thrilled with those picks. Savoie would be a steal and Lambert is a risk worth taking.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
Is Nikita Zaitsiev a good fit
- Buff36


For Rochester? Absolutely.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 4 @ 1:09 PM ET
For Rochester? Absolutely.
- Michael Ghofrani

Was thinking the same. Is he still in the NHL?
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
Was thinking the same. Is he still in the NHL?
- sbroads24




He's not terrible in a 3rd pair role, but then that describes half of FA, at less money.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
For Rochester? Absolutely.
- Michael Ghofrani

OK, he's actually been decent on a bad team
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 4 @ 1:16 PM ET
OK, he's actually been decent on a bad team
- Buff36



What are you basing that on if you don't mind me asking?

Nothing in his statistical profile is particularly flattering, and what little I've seen of him, just looks like a mediocre 3rd pair guy.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
What are you basing that on if you don't mind me asking?

Nothing in his statistical profile is particularly flattering, and what little I've seen of him, just looks like a mediocre 3rd pair guy.

- Michael Ghofrani

Blocks a lot of shots, his PDO isn't awful, heavy starts from Dzone side of Center ice. Can play 20min if need be. Not afraid to throw a hit.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
Blocks a lot of shots, his PDO isn't awful, heavy starts from Dzone side of Center ice. Can play 20min if need be. Not afraid to throw a hit.
- Buff36


Are....are any of these positive qualities though?

Blocks a lot of shots is just another way of saying the Sens don't have the puck often when he's on the ice. Not an ideal quality. Part of what makes the avs so successful is that almost all their d-man excel in getting the puck back quickly and are less concerned with traditional box out shot blocking.

He gets a lot of d-zone starts but its like risto, he's not doing anything of value with that. So what does it matter if he plays 20 mins if most of that is spent with other team holding the puck and the shot advantage?

All this to say, is this the kind of player we need to take on at that cap hit and potentially pay assets for? Again he's probably ok in a 3rd pair role but like they've got 2 geniuses working for them now, surely they can do better than this for that money.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
Are....are any of these positive qualities though?

Blocks a lot of shots is just another way of saying the Sens don't have the puck often when he's on the ice. Not an ideal quality. Part of what makes the avs so successful is that almost all their d-man excel in getting the puck back quickly and are less concerned with traditional box out shot blocking.

He gets a lot of d-zone starts but its like risto, he's not doing anything of value with that. So what does it matter if he plays 20 mins if most of that is spent with other team holding the puck and the shot advantage?

All this to say, is this the kind of player we need to take on at that cap hit and potentially pay assets for? Again he's probably ok in a 3rd pair role but like they've got 2 geniuses working for them now, surely they can do better than this for that money.

- Michael Ghofrani

So McDonagh or Sergachev blocking a 100 or so shots means Tampa is bad at getting the puck out. Only reason I brought him up is cause someone offered him for a 6th, which wouldn't be bad
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