Just curious but what would you say Hextalls Signature move was? I know he moved some money out. Got out from the Vinny deal. But what move helped start the transition to get this team on the right foot moving forward you can point to. Like what can you look at and say " Ok, I see what your doing here"
- J35Bacher

Clearing out cap space and rebuilding the system were huge undertakings. He did a great job at cleaning up the salary cap issues. He did a good job accumulating picks and using them. The results on the draft picks were not optimal.

The overall state of the team was much better when Hextall left compared to when he arrived.

I didnt say all NHL teams take that approach. Chuck sucks.
- hello it's me 2050

Something most of us can agree on.

Clearing out cap space and rebuilding the system were huge undertakings. He did a great job at cleaning up the salary cap issues. He did a good job accumulating picks and using them. The results on the draft picks were not optimal.

The overall state of the team was much better when Hextall left compared to when he arrived.
- mickel25

And I'd say better than now.

He also gets way to much credit for the Vinny deal. Vinny held all the cards. He could have sat in the press box and collected his money. He made that trade happen more than the GM imo.
- hello it's me 2050

I get it but he made the deal so it was a good deal to get out form the contract. Also helped he retired.

Clearing out cap space and rebuilding the system were huge undertakings. He did a great job at cleaning up the salary cap issues. He did a good job accumulating picks and using them. The results on the draft picks were not optimal.

The overall state of the team was much better when Hextall left compared to when he arrived.
- mickel25

Look at a lot of the players Ronald drafted. What was their ceiling? 4th line for many of the picks after rd 2. Never ever used picks to address the poor on ice product at the NHL level. F the Saint.

Chuck needs to see some results soon from his drafts as at the NHL level not much to show at all.

Look at a lot of the players Ronald drafted. What was their ceiling? 4th line for many of the picks after rd 2. Never ever used picks to address the poor on ice product at the NHL level. F the Saint.

Chuck needs to see some results soon from his drafts as at the NHL level not much to show at all.
- hello it's me 2050

Hextall definitely could have done more to improve the NHL team. I do not think he had many options in the first three years though. He had zero cap space and zero prospects.

I am not defending Hextall. I just do not think everything he did was bad.

Hextall definitely could have done more to improve the NHL team. I do not think he had many options in the first three years though. He had zero cap space and zero prospects.

I am not defending Hextall. I just do not think everything he did was bad.
- mickel25

Not all bad agree. He was at best an average GM.

Not all bad agree. He was at best an average GM.
- hello it's me 2050

And that is probably accurate. However, he is the only GM the Flyers have had since the cap was instituted that operated like there was actually a salary cap. I get it. Tallest midget but still.

Not all bad agree. He was at best an average GM.
- hello it's me 2050

Id say he was very mediocre

Not all bad agree. He was at best an average GM.
- hello it's me 2050

Sadly "average" was an improvement over what came before... and better than what came after.

And that is probably accurate. However, he is the only GM the Flyers have had since the cap was instituted that operated like there was actually a salary cap. I get it. Tallest midget but still.
- mickel25

Yeah, nobody is saying Hexy was some great GM.

Only that his tenure was one of the few times this franchise wasn't completely bat poop insane.

Sadly "average" was an improvement over what came before... and better than what came after.
- Tomahawk

Holmgren > The Saint. Based on results.

Yeah, nobody is saying Hexy was some great GM.

Only that his tenure was one of the few times this franchise wasn't completely bat poop insane.
- Tomahawk

He was bland as can be. IMO, despite what many believe, I do not think he had any real plan.

Not all bad agree. He was at best an average GM.
- hello it's me 2050

Hextall is a very good hockey guy….who achieved only average results with the plan he implemented while acting as the GM. It was time for a change and he was fired with cause. Unfortunately his replacement has taken the team in the wrong direction.

He was bland as can be. IMO, despite what many believe, I do not think he had any real plan.
- hello it's me 2050

You're obsessed. I bet you stand outside of his window, watching him sleep.

Hayes was only signed because Patrick wasn't showing he could handle those 2nd line duties and also I had a feeling they new Patrick would be missing time.

My thing is if your rebuilding then you don't spend 7 million on JVR. Weak or not. You find a one year rental then to fill that and save the money to maybe make deals that help your team in the future.

I was fine with them moving Schenn.

But they held onto Simmonds too long if your plan was to rebuild. They lost all value they had and probably would have got a 1st rounder for him and a prospect. H had back to back 30 goal seasons.

Also if your rebuilding do you sign a 27 year old Voracek to over 8 million a year or do you let that go since you know it will take time for your youth to get there.
- J35Bacher

I don’t buy this.

You sign JvR. You keep Giroux at top line LW? Even if the organization was aware Patrick could be out a large chunk of his third season (which turned out to be all of that season), I’d rather have Couturier and Giroux as your 1-2 punch at center then overpay for Hayes, which isn’t even a star.

JvR didn’t hurt anything. Trading 25 year old Schenn in my mind was the beginning of our issues.

You're obsessed. I bet you stand outside of his window, watching him sleep.
- Tomahawk

stroking it

For me i would explore 2 trades,

JVR (50%) at 3.5mil is a contract that can move.

Hayes(50% retained this year only)to Boston, we retain this year so they can resign Bergy to a 1 year contract. I think Bostons needs match up with what Hayes offers.

For me i would explore 2 trades,

JVR (50%) at 3.5mil is a contract that can move.

Hayes(50% retained this year only)to Boston, we retain this year so they can resign Bergy to a 1 year contract. I think Bostons needs match up with what Hayes offers.
- Flyerloon

You cannot retain salary for just one year of a contract.

You cannot retain salary for just one year of a contract.
- mickel25

Seriously?? I didn’t know that

Seriously?? I didn’t know that
- SuperSchennBros

I think it has to be an equal amount across the duration of the contract. I could be wrong though.

I think it has to be an equal amount across the duration of the contract. I could be wrong though.
- mickel25

Yeah but you can retain salary with players at the deadline on an expiring contract, no?

Yeah but you can retain salary with players at the deadline on an expiring contract, no?
- SuperSchennBros

Yes. My bad. I meant one year on a multi year deal.

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- arichardson22

oh boy