Why would the flyers pay that when they know they can wait a week and sign JH for money only? Last year the Oilers offered a 6th round pick for the rights to Hyman in advance of deadline day when they had a deal already worked out. Why would the Flyers offer up much more?
- wreckage

Big difference in Gaudreau versus Hyman where Leafs werent & couldnt reup due to lack of cap space. Yes Flyers can wait it out & do a 7 year deal, because Gaudreau wont accept anything shorter. Also, to match what the Flames have reportedly offered they would have to be in at $10,800,000 per for the 7 year deal. Flames can go negotiate & take a cap dump from a number of other teams that Gaudreau would want to go to, soooo if Philly really wants to compete & want that top line 100pt forward with a cap hit under $10 mill. Otherwise they will be competing & thats when the price can go stupid. Not so far fetched, maybe throwing in Tippett is wishful thinking, meh who the fck cares, it's a site where people post wishful thinking sh!t.

Big difference in Gaudreau versus Hyman where Leafs werent & couldnt reup due to lack of cap space. Yes Flyers can wait it out & do a 7 year deal, because Gaudreau wont accept anything shorter. Also, to match what the Flames have reportedly offered they would have to be in at $10,800,000 per for the 7 year deal. Flames can go negotiate & take a cap dump from a number of other teams that Gaudreau would want to go to, soooo if Philly really wants to compete & want that top line 100pt forward with a cap hit under $10 mill. Otherwise they will be competing & thats when the price can go stupid. Not so far fetched, maybe throwing in Tippett is wishful thinking, meh who the fck cares, it's a site where people post wishful thinking sh!t.
- Kevin R

Philly doesn't have to match Calgary's offer if Gaudreau wants to go there. It's happened numerous times before where a free agent took less money to play where they wanted.

If I'm Philly, I'd be reluctant to even offer 9 million a year. There are a number of reasons why they're drafting 5th overall and signing Gaudreau doesn't address any of them.

Big difference in Gaudreau versus Hyman where Leafs werent & couldnt reup due to lack of cap space. Yes Flyers can wait it out & do a 7 year deal, because Gaudreau wont accept anything shorter. Also, to match what the Flames have reportedly offered they would have to be in at $10,800,000 per for the 7 year deal. Flames can go negotiate & take a cap dump from a number of other teams that Gaudreau would want to go to, soooo if Philly really wants to compete & want that top line 100pt forward with a cap hit under $10 mill. Otherwise they will be competing & thats when the price can go stupid. Not so far fetched, maybe throwing in Tippett is wishful thinking, meh who the fck cares, it's a site where people post wishful thinking sh!t.
- Kevin R

I am not losing any sleep over it. I don’t think this team is built to make the finals paying JG and Tkachuk >9 million. If JG leaving is the catalyst to make changes then so be it.

I am not losing any sleep over it. I don’t think this team is built to make the finals paying JG and Tkachuk >9 million. If JG leaving is the catalyst to make changes then so be it.
- DuranDuran

Actually, I agree but any rebuild in 1 year cant be with Treliving at the helm. His asset management here with Tkachuk & Gaudreau leaves little to be desired. As much as I really enjoyed this last year & had the odd feeling of hope, Gaudreau should have been moved before his very limited NTC kicked in last July 1. If he refuses to discuss extension, get what you can & move on. I make decisions in hockey pools based on whether players I am flipping a coin with are in contract years or not. So many times they seem to be healthier & have career years in contract years.

Philly doesn't have to match Calgary's offer if Gaudreau wants to go there. It's happened numerous times before where a free agent took less money to play where they wanted.

If I'm Philly, I'd be reluctant to even offer 9 million a year. There are a number of reasons why they're drafting 5th overall and signing Gaudreau doesn't address any of them.
- Squeaky

You're forgetting 1 thing. There are 5 or 6 teams that are in his location wheel house & could be caught in a bidding war.
Personally, Gaudreau on an 8 year 9.5 mill deal is a great deal for everyone. Especially seeing in 2 years cap will be going up real dramatically.

Big difference in Gaudreau versus Hyman where Leafs werent & couldnt reup due to lack of cap space. Yes Flyers can wait it out & do a 7 year deal, because Gaudreau wont accept anything shorter. Also, to match what the Flames have reportedly offered they would have to be in at $10,800,000 per for the 7 year deal. Flames can go negotiate & take a cap dump from a number of other teams that Gaudreau would want to go to, soooo if Philly really wants to compete & want that top line 100pt forward with a cap hit under $10 mill. Otherwise they will be competing & thats when the price can go stupid. Not so far fetched, maybe throwing in Tippett is wishful thinking, meh who the fck cares, it's a site where people post wishful thinking sh!t.
- Kevin R

Heaven forbid you make a proposal that someone doesn’t agree with.

Fire Treliving!

I think he is gone. Seems like he has a pretty fair offer in the table. I think he knows where he wants to play and is waiting for that team to open up some cap space.

I hope I am wrong, but it’s out of my hands. If he does go for nothing, I cannot see sticking with Tre.

What do you see happening? What direction does the team take if JG walks?
- DuranDuran

I still have hope Gaudreau will sign in Calgary. If he does not, then I think Tkachuck will be traded, Mangi will be traded and rebuild will begin. Let's see.

You're forgetting 1 thing. There are 5 or 6 teams that are in his location wheel house & could be caught in a bidding war.
Personally, Gaudreau on an 8 year 9.5 mill deal is a great deal for everyone. Especially seeing in 2 years cap will be going up real dramatically.
- Kevin R

Theoretically, sure. But there's a pretty big difference in wanting to move home and moving close to home. You're also going to live an identical lifestyle if you're making 10 million or 8 million for the next 7 years.

There also probably isn't going to be a bidding war. If you analyze his career, he's really only had one exceptional season and it took playing with two exceptional players. He's technically only had 1 100 point season. How many of those do you expect after 30?

Friedman's also stated that he gets the feeling that there aren't any teams willing to come close to the Flames' offer.

Gaudreau can start talking with the other teams starting Saturday, we should have an answer very soon. Tkachuk is on the move.

Gaudreau can start talking with the other teams starting Saturday, we should have an answer very soon. Tkachuk is on the move.
- drogon

Tkachuk on the move ? Are you referring to mention that teams are approaching the Flames ? IMO, if Tkachuk wants to be a UFA in a year, the Flames should consider moving him now. They'd be selling high, doubt he gets 100pts again without Gaudreau.

Tkachuk on the move ? Are you referring to mention that teams are approaching the Flames ? IMO, if Tkachuk wants to be a UFA in a year, the Flames should consider moving him now. They'd be selling high, doubt he gets 100pts again without Gaudreau.
- tincup

Agree. Last thing this team needs is players that want to be somewhere else. If we can’t sign him long term, trade him and move on.
Fire Treliving!

Tkachuk on the move ? Are you referring to mention that teams are approaching the Flames ? IMO, if Tkachuk wants to be a UFA in a year, the Flames should consider moving him now. They'd be selling high, doubt he gets 100pts again without Gaudreau.
- tincup

Respected St. Louis broadcaster Andy Strickland reported the Flames are discussing the possibility of moving winger Matthew Tkachuk. If he does go to market, there’s a good chance the Blues will show interest.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're one of those teams.


Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
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5h
There's several teams with significant interest in the #Sens No. 7 selection. The offers have improved since the club arrived in Montreal. We will see where this goes in the next 24 hours. Club has made it clear it wants an impact player in return.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're one of those teams.


Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
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5h
There's several teams with significant interest in the #Sens No. 7 selection. The offers have improved since the club arrived in Montreal. We will see where this goes in the next 24 hours. Club has made it clear it wants an impact player in return.
- drogon

#7 in this draft doesn't have the same value as most years. Mange for #7 I can see as realistic but if it were Chucky IMO we would need a lot more than #7 from Ottawa.
I would propose Jake Sanderson, Greig and a 2nd for Chucky and Kylington

#7 in this draft doesn't have the same value as most years. Mange for #7 I can see as realistic but if it were Chucky IMO we would need a lot more than #7 from Ottawa.
I would propose Jake Sanderson, Ridley and a 2nd for Chucky and Kylington
- DEDDIE

Sanderson would be perfect being a local kid.

Sanderson would be perfect being a local kid.
- tincup

Yup.... I would hate to see Chucky go but if he wont sign long term this summer its time to move on.

Yup.... I would hate to see Chucky go but if he wont sign long term this summer its time to move on.
- DEDDIE

For what it's worth, Kevin Weekes is saying the Flames still fully expect to get both of them extended.

Respected St. Louis broadcaster Andy Strickland reported the Flames are discussing the possibility of moving winger Matthew Tkachuk. If he does go to market, there’s a good chance the Blues will show interest.
- drogon

Strickland? Come on... Blues biggest fan boy and no where close to impartial. He's hoping and planting seeds.

Strickland? Come on... Blues biggest fan boy and no where close to impartial. He's hoping and planting seeds.
- geta02it

Exactly he's got a huge bonar for Chucky becoming a Blue.

The NHL Draft is where Treliving does its best work. We have seen the same scenario play out in the playoffs year after year. Grit is fine, but in today's NHL it's all about speed and skill and that was pretty obvious against the Oilers.

The NHL Draft is where Treliving does its best work. We have seen the same scenario play out in the playoffs year after year. Grit is fine, but in today's NHL it's all about speed and skill and that was pretty obvious against the Oilers.
- drogon

Trevor's post-mortem piece on the defense being injured showed how much the Dallas series ground the Flames down is something to take into account when considering the OIlers series.

But who knows.

The NHL Draft is where Treliving does its best work. We have seen the same scenario play out in the playoffs year after year. Grit is fine, but in today's NHL it's all about speed and skill and that was pretty obvious against the Oilers.
- drogon

Speed and skill for sure is todays game but if that speed and skill cant play heavy hockey your team will be in the infirmary by the Stanley Cup finals.

Trevor's post-mortem piece on the defense being injured showed how much the Dallas series ground the Flames down is something to take into account when considering the OIlers series.

But who knows.
- DuranDuran

Yeah, but why do we have the same results every year, we're going to run out of excuses eventually?

Yeah, but why do we have the same results every year, we're going to run out of excuses eventually?
- drogon

What? They won the division last year and were in the final 8. The previous year, they didn't make the playoffs. Pretty solid step up.

#7 in this draft doesn't have the same value as most years. Mange for #7 I can see as realistic but if it were Chucky IMO we would need a lot more than #7 from Ottawa.
I would propose Jake Sanderson, Greig and a 2nd for Chucky and Kylington
- DEDDIE

Chucky for Sanderson and the 7th oa pick. Ottawa would pay dearly to have the brothers.