to be fair, Mrazek had really good numbers up until this past season.. Getting Mrazek was a good idea in case Campbell couldn't be a full time starting goalie.. In the end, it didn't work out, but I still think it was a good plan at that time.. If they signed an Elliott or McElhinney and Campbell struggled, the Leafs could have been in a much worse position.

Not everything Dubas does works out, but I do like that he's constantly trying to do what's right for the team.
- PatC80

In theory, getting a guy that could share the load with Campbell as a 1A/1B was a great idea.

They just went and grabbed the wrong guy.

Whichever pro scout made that recommendation should be ashamed.

Btw, CC, how are you making out with Covid? I’m finally starting to feel more or less normal.
- fifty__missions

Still somewhat fatigued - like 10 to 15% below normal. I’m walking the dog and swimming and everything else but just generally more tired. I still cough occasionally but I finally tested negative after 3 and a half weeks. My wife somehow avoided getting it.

Still somewhat fatigued - like 10 to 15% below normal. I’m walking the dog and swimming and everything else but just generally more tired. I still cough occasionally but I finally tested negative after 3 and a half weeks. My wife somehow avoided getting it.
- Canada Cup

Yeah I also felt a form a fatigue after the main symptoms passed. It lasted a good 2 months before I felt somewhat better but I'm not 100% convinced it's back to normal.

Yes I understand. But how can you commit to a 1a-1b scenario when you’ve not even fully evaluated, nor are locked in on your 1a?

It was poorly managed.

I get it - they need to move on now. But Kyle’s put himself in a pretty difficult position to try to improve the goaltending, as well as the rest of the roster.
- fifty__missions

on a positive note, the team managed 115 points while having a team sv% of .900 ranking 21st in the league

Well the Craig Anderson option is off the table. He’s a Sabre for another year. We’re (frank)ed now.

Well the Craig Anderson option is off the table. He’s a Sabre for another year. We’re (frank)ed now.
- Canada Cup

Very bold of them to sign him. He's what? 200 years old now?

Very bold of them to sign him. He's what? 200 years old now?
- Scabeh

I think 41. In other news (sic), Ek is hearing Nylander for Quick may or may not be heating up.

I think 41. In other news (sic), Ek is hearing Nylander for Quick may or may not be heating up.
- Canada Cup

I see he read my tweet. Good.

https://twitter.com/Ieafs...tatus/1542329757546717184

So MAF was willing to waive his NMC to come to TO last TDL.

Yes I understand. But how can you commit to a 1a-1b scenario when you’ve not even fully evaluated, nor are locked in on your 1a?

It was poorly managed.

I get it - they need to move on now. But Kyle’s put himself in a pretty difficult position to try to improve the goaltending, as well as the rest of the roster.
- fifty__missions

I'm generally the half-full to your half-empty but on Mrazek I'm in full agreement.

It's the one deal of Dubas's that has never made any sense to me unless they thought he was good enough to be the man going forward.

I said the same last summer ...the future Cap math (re: his signing) didn't make sense ..unless they believed that Mrazek was going to steal the 1A from Campbell OR they were confident in finding another inexpensive 1A to play with him.

If Campbell played well enough to be the #1 then he was going to get paid ...and Mrazek's contract was going to be an anchor.

That being said .....(frank) it. The penalty is, at worst, a ~1M buyout for the next 4 years. That may be the cost of betting on those two guys last year.

Yes I understand. But how can you commit to a 1a-1b scenario when you’ve not even fully evaluated, nor are locked in on your 1a?

It was poorly managed.

I get it - they need to move on now. But Kyle’s put himself in a pretty difficult position to try to improve the goaltending, as well as the rest of the roster.
- fifty__missions

Because you don't need to know who the 1A is going in. The whole point is to have two similar tweener goaltenders who are going to compete with themselves to become 1A.

He didn't mismanage it at all. Thats what it costs to find a similar goaltender on the open market, with the contracts doled out I'm surprised the term wasn't even longer. The ship got sunk when Mrazek was hurt most of the year and trash between. You're basing your angle on it costing a fortune to get rid of him, which hasn't been done yet. That's exactly why you get all the heat about always having your assumptions fall on whatever side is worse for the leafs.

No need for hate when your comments oozes negativity.
That sure gets the job done
- 21peter

That guy is something else

In theory, getting a guy that could share the load with Campbell as a 1A/1B was a great idea.

They just went and grabbed the wrong guy.

Whichever pro scout made that recommendation should be ashamed.
- Scabeh

The doctrine of Leafy Things means that he'll be bought out and then sign a bargain deal with some American team and put up All Star numbers next year.

Because you don't need to know who the 1A is going in. The whole point is to have two similar tweener goaltenders who are going to compete with themselves to become 1A.

He didn't mismanage it at all. Thats what it costs to find a similar goaltender on the open market, with the contracts doled out I'm surprised the term wasn't even longer. The ship got sunk when Mrazek was hurt most of the year and trash between. You're basing your angle on it costing a fortune to get rid of him, which hasn't been done yet. That's exactly why you get all the heat about always having your assumptions fall on whatever side is worse for the leafs.
- joel878

Same thing was done with Ritchie, ridiculously negative fans just move onto the next guy they can be wrong about.

Do we like some crazy Kassian if he gets bought out in Edmonton?

Aston-Reese sounds like a nice bottom of the order signing too.

I want a 4th line that can skate, bang and PK.

In theory, getting a guy that could share the load with Campbell as a 1A/1B was a great idea.

They just went and grabbed the wrong guy.

Whichever pro scout made that recommendation should be ashamed.
- Scabeh

The pro scout was Petr Mrazek's dad... maybe

The pro scout was Petr Mrazek's dad... maybe
- PatC80

That would explain it. Yes.

So far it's the best theory.

https://twitter.com/Ieafsupdates/status/1542329757546717184

So MAF was willing to waive his NMC to come to TO last TDL.
- Santo_44

yes, he was but Kyle Davidson really messed things up when he made it all public

Do we like some crazy Kassian if he gets bought out in Edmonton?

Aston-Reese sounds like a nice bottom of the order signing too.

I want a 4th line that can skate, bang and PK.
- The Law

Sign Nick Paul.

3rd line of Paul-Kampf-Engvall..

That would explain it. Yes.

So far it's the best theory.
- Scabeh

It's the only thing I can think of...

In all seriousness, I liked the move for Mrazek at the time it was done.. It made sense in case Campbell couldn't handle the workload

Sign Nick Paul.

3rd line of Paul-Kampf-Engvall..
- PatC80

I suspect he's going to be someone's regrettable overpay.

I agree, I think if anything Colorado just proved that a tandem setup in goal can bring a cup in. Neither is exactly a stud. Keumper is decent but he has his warts and will cost money.

I'm not a big fan of the cap hit Varlamov comes with for what he's done in his career, but I do think we could do worse. If Dubas could catch Lou on a bad day and get him retained, I would like him a lot more.
- joel878

Well, more specifically Colorado just proved that a tandem setup in goal, along with an elite MVP level Dman with a very good D core and some skilled forwards with killer instinct (McK and Kadri) can bring a cup in.

Do the leafs have the forwards with that killer instinct? Dunno. But they dont have the equivilent D thats for sure....well not the individual elite D. They have some individually good Dmen.

Well, more specifically Colorado just proved that a tandem setup in goal, along with an elite MVP level Dman with a very good D core and some skilled forwards with killer instinct (McK and Kadri) can bring a cup in.

Do the leafs have the forwards with that killer instinct? Dunno. But they dont have the equivilent D thats for sure....well not the individual elite D. They have some individually good Dmen.
- Fakepartofme

Biggest difference in the series was that Colorado got secondary scoring and the Leafs fourth line got caved by Tampa while Helm, Cogliano and whoever held their own.

Leafs defence was not a big problem and nobody has the same same elite D and next year the Avs probably won’t either

I suspect he's going to be someone's regrettable overpay.
- The Law

I think so as well.. Maybe he'll do well in Anaheim?

Well, more specifically Colorado just proved that a tandem setup in goal, along with an elite MVP level Dman with a very good D core and some skilled forwards with killer instinct (McK and Kadri) can bring a cup in.

Do the leafs have the forwards with that killer instinct? Dunno. But they dont have the equivilent D thats for sure....well not the individual elite D. They have some individually good Dmen.
- Fakepartofme

Leafs should have traded for Lehkonen...