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Well, more specifically Colorado just proved that a tandem setup in goal, along with an elite MVP level Dman with a very good D core and some skilled forwards with killer instinct (McK and Kadri) can bring a cup in.
Do the leafs have the forwards with that killer instinct? Dunno. But they dont have the equivilent D thats for sure....well not the individual elite D. They have some individually good Dmen. - Fakepartofme
It doesn't matter if they had actual Jesus at right wing, they just won with a tandem. It can be done. 🤷🏻♂️ |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Biggest difference in the series was that Colorado got secondary scoring and the Leafs fourth line got caved by Tampa while Helm, Cogliano and whoever held their own.
Leafs defence was not a big problem and nobody has the same same elite D and next year the Avs probably won’t either - Canada Cup
One year, the Leafs will figure it out.. Against Montreal, only the secondary players were scoring. Against Tampa, only the top guys could score.. One year, they'll figure it out. |
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Symba007
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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One year, the Leafs will figure it out.. Against Montreal, only the secondary players were scoring. Against Tampa, only the top guys could score.. One year, they'll figure it out. - PatC80
One day! |
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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One year, the Leafs will figure it out.. Against Montreal, only the secondary players were scoring. Against Tampa, only the top guys could score.. One year, they'll figure it out. - PatC80
Maybe we should get Makar and Vasilesky. Stupid Dubas |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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yes, he was but Kyle Davidson really messed things up when he made it all public - PatC80
and asking for Knies |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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I like the Pink Noise stuff on Spotify. I’ve got tinnitus, so it really helps for sleeping. - fifty__missions
Yeah I use that stuff for sleeping too. But I like blue and white noise
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dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Sign Nick Paul.
3rd line of Paul-Kampf-Engvall.. - PatC80
to sign Paul will cost between 3~3.5M on a 4 year contract.
Not sure if the Leafs can afford that contract
I wanted the Leafs to snag him at the TDL but didn't. |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Sign Nick Paul.
3rd line of Paul-Kampf-Engvall.. - PatC80
Sens are moving more kids up and Nick Paul was a casualty. He wanted $4m. Sens sending out signals that they are going to move Connor Brown. He is (I think $3.6m.). Both would be a great fit for the Leafs. But very pricey for 3rd line players. |
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Santo_44
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Seravalli speculated Blackwood for JC's rights. Maybe you add Holl and they retain a bit as well? Then you sign MAF 2X4M.
As for Mrazek maybe you use Kerfoot and get a Joey Anderson in return. Something like Mrazek and Kerfoot to CHI for Boris Katchouk?
Sign PK for cheap. Trade Sandin for Pulujujarvi and sign him 2x3M.
Bunting-AM-Marner
Nylander-JT-Pulujujarvi
Engvall(1.7M)-Kampf-?
Robertson-Abruzzese-Anderson
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Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Lil
Muzzin-Subban(1.25M)
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Fleury 4M
Blackwood 1.8M
2.3M for that RW spot |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Maybe we should get Makar and Vasilesky. Stupid Dubas - Canada Cup
That would be nice.. Hopefully, both Colorado and Tampa can split Petr Mrazek. Since he's the Leafs best trade chip |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Seravalli speculated Blackwood for JC's rights. Maybe you add Holl and they retain a bit as well? Then you sign MAF 2X4M.
As for Mrazek maybe you use Kerfoot and get a Joey Anderson in return. Something like Mrazek and Kerfoot to CHI for Boris Katchouk?
Sign PK for cheap. Trade Sandin for Pulujujarvi and sign him 2x3M.
Bunting-AM-Marner
Nylander-JT-Pulujujarvi
Engvall(1.7M)-Kampf-?
Robertson-Abruzzese-Anderson
guy
Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Lil
Muzzin-Subban(1.25M)
guy
Fleury 4M
Blackwood 1.8M
2.3M for that RW spot - Santo_44
Not sure I agree with trading Sandin for Puljujarvi
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Santo_44
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Not sure I agree with trading Sandin for Puljujarvi - PatC80
It is quite fair.
Both sides of the fanbase probably say they are giving up slightly more and that's when you know its fair |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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It is quite fair.
Both sides of the fanbase probably say they are giving up slightly more and that's when you know its fair - Santo_44
I don't know.. I'm not really a fan of Puljujarvi's..
I'd prefer to keep Sandin |
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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It is quite fair.
Both sides of the fanbase probably say they are giving up slightly more and that's when you know its fair - Santo_44
Maybe but how confident are you that Muzzin survives this year/next year and that we have someone to step in? They’ve invested too much time in Sandin and given the potential hole his departure creates means the return on any trade had better be better than just a “fair trade”. |
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TurdFergeson
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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It is quite fair.
Both sides of the fanbase probably say they are giving up slightly more and that's when you know its fair - Santo_44
Lol. Oiler fans would jump at that deal as would Holland. Pulj may not even get qualified. Trading Sandin and signing him to 3 mill per would be a fir-able offence. |
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fifty__missions
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Still somewhat fatigued - like 10 to 15% below normal. I’m walking the dog and swimming and everything else but just generally more tired. I still cough occasionally but I finally tested negative after 3 and a half weeks. My wife somehow avoided getting it. - Canada Cup
Similar to you, though it’s been about 10 days now. Still hacking up the odd phlegm ball. Did first post Covid gym workout yesterday - felt great to do, but took probably a half hour longer than usual. Weird mental fog finally lifted yesterday. Golfing today - I’m a walker - so we’ll see how that goes. My wife, unlike yours, has it now too. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Similar to you, though it’s been about 10 days now. Still hacking up the odd phlegm ball. Did first post Covid gym workout yesterday - felt great to do, but took probably a half hour longer than usual. Weird mental fog finally lifted yesterday. Golfing today - I’m a walker - so we’ll see how that goes. My wife, unlike yours, has it now too. - fifty__missions
I think the age (69) might be a factor on slow recovery. I’ll be the judge on your mental fog lifting. I’ve developed a series of simple Leaf questions. I’m not sure you’re ready yet. |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Pierre LeBrun
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The Leafs have informed teams they're open to trading the rights to pending UFA Ilya Mikheyev. |
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fifty__missions
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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I think the age (69) might be a factor on slow recovery. I’ll be the judge on your mental fog lifting. I’ve developed a series of simple Leaf questions. I’m not sure you’re ready yet. - Canada Cup
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Colorado also traded two absolute core pieces - Matt Duschene, and Ryan O Reilly - during this process when the knew they had to do something to get better. Sakic was not afraid to change his core. They didn't just magically stop losing by running the same group back again and again. - fifty__missions
You mean when those players asked to be traded and the GM had no choice? |
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mr.sir
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Pierre LeBrun
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The Leafs have informed teams they're open to trading the rights to pending UFA Ilya Mikheyev. - GreatGigInTheSky
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Yes, Freddie is a better goalie but everyone here wanted him run out of town and earlier this year were ready to give Campbell $6 or 7M/year. - Canada Cup
You only speak for most people here, not everyone.
I wanted Freddy back. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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I agree with all of this. I do so because I can't find the benefit in spending the summer obsessively posting on here about how (frank)ed we are and then watching every single game next season like a complete sucker. - joel878
Someone also thought the Leafs would miss the playoffs and they went on to set a franchise record for points. So... |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Seravalli speculated Blackwood for JC's rights. Maybe you add Holl and they retain a bit as well? Then you sign MAF 2X4M.
As for Mrazek maybe you use Kerfoot and get a Joey Anderson in return. Something like Mrazek and Kerfoot to CHI for Boris Katchouk?
Sign PK for cheap. Trade Sandin for Pulujujarvi and sign him 2x3M.
Bunting-AM-Marner
Nylander-JT-Pulujujarvi
Engvall(1.7M)-Kampf-?
Robertson-Abruzzese-Anderson
guy
Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Lil
Muzzin-Subban(1.25M)
guy
Fleury 4M
Blackwood 1.8M
2.3M for that RW spot - Santo_44
I've been pretty vocal on not wanting MAF, but I'd do that goalie stuff.
Chicago should owe Dubas a favour, so maybe Mrazek straight up? |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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😢 - mr.sir
Sad indeed. Always liked him. |
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