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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Soup on the move? Will the Leafs trade Campbell’s rights?
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
Highly unlikely

Its either a 2nd and maybe a meh prospect or Kerfoot in some trade where they get back a youngish bottom 6 forward I think.

- Santo_44


Chicago GM did stand up and apologised infront of all the GM's, so maybe can get away with a tiny bit, but yeah, probably not much.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
Would love that ...
- The Law


Depending on the cost, but hell ya.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:32 PM ET
Would love that ...
- The Law


6mil and 2 years left.

both good
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
Then 5.6m will be traded off the books and they have money to add.

Not that confident Sandin can be a top 4 d next season, more confident in Liljregren.

- Santo_44

I think they still see more potential upside in Sandin than Lilli and the only problem for him is a crowded left side and questions about him playing on the right. My guess is that the plan is to give him a real shot at the right side unless he is used for a more important trade than the one you are proposing - bringing in a top flight forward or a goalie.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
Pulujujuarvi is good.

Probably is the next Nichushkin as much as Sandin could be a top 4 PP QB.

- Santo_44


I agree. I like him. But I wouldn't give up Sandin for him.

Isn't Edmonton on the fence to even qualify him? Shouldn't cost a Sandin.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
I understand the mechanics but I don’t understand why he wouldn’t want to hit free agency. This might be his only crack at a decent payday and limiting himself to negotiating with one team seems very, well, limiting.
- Canada Cup


I'd agree with this except those greasy lawyers/agents are involved. If they're doing their job then JC's team already knows who's interested. If he has a favourite then the 'trade my rights' thing makes some sense. If his favourite is $$ then he waits it out to let the bidding begin.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
I think they still see more potential upside in Sandin than Lilli and the only problem for him is a crowded left side and questions about him playing on the right. My guess is that the plan is to give him a real shot at the right side unless he is used for a more important trade than the one you are proposing - bringing in a top flight forward or a goalie.
- Canada Cup


Sandin was pretty bad on the right side when he was played there last year.

Quite possible he is again and then all of a sudden he loses his value because of a bad season.

I am all for trading him. If they get an equally good forward or a package for something good.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
I think they still see more potential upside in Sandin than Lilli and the only problem for him is a crowded left side and questions about him playing on the right. My guess is that the plan is to give him a real shot at the right side unless he is used for a more important trade than the one you are proposing - bringing in a top flight forward or a goalie.
- Canada Cup


I can see that.

I don't overly want to trade Sandin, but I would for a good improvement.

Be amazing if Muzzin agreed to waive.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
I agree. I like him. But I wouldn't give up Sandin for him.

Isn't Edmonton on the fence to even qualify him? Shouldn't cost a Sandin.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Anybody saying that is either dumb or lying so his value goes down.

Decent point totals and the underlying numbers show he was fantastic at both ends of the ice. Big forward...would be plenty of interest.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
I think they still see more potential upside in Sandin than Lilli and the only problem for him is a crowded left side and questions about him playing on the right. My guess is that the plan is to give him a real shot at the right side unless he is used for a more important trade than the one you are proposing - bringing in a top flight forward or a goalie.
- Canada Cup


Ya, I like the D sitch more than most. Sandin can play both sides and has a summer/camp to get better on the right if needed.

Leafs can add more D at the deadline - find their Josh Manson rental.

Rielly-Lilly
Muzz-Bro
Gio-San

dump Holl and add another RHD vet into the mix to share time. Maybe Boosh. Not sure if Myers earned a look.

that gets the kids minutes with good partners at a low-leverage time (regular season) and keeps the flexibility to spend Cap space upfront and on a tender. If by December the kids are showing warts then you're scanning the market and you spend on a rental.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
Ya, I like the D sitch more than most. Sandin can play both sides and has a summer/camp to get better on the right if needed.

Leafs can add more D at the deadline - find their Josh Manson rental.

Rielly-Lilly
Muzz-Bro
Gio-San

dump Holl and add another RHD vet into the mix to share time. Maybe Boosh. Not sure if Myers earned a look.

that gets the kids minutes with good partners at a low-leverage time (regular season) and keeps the flexibility to spend Cap space upfront and on a tender. If by December the kids are showing warts then you're scanning the market and you spend on a rental.

- The Law



I do hope they bring Boosh back on a cheaper deal.

Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Liljegren
Sandin-Boosh

Play Muzzin part time or trade him, I don't think he can handle a full 82 game season anymore.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
Pulujujuarvi is good.

Probably is the next Nichushkin as much as Sandin could be a top 4 PP QB.

- Santo_44

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 30 @ 2:05 PM ET
Anybody saying that is either dumb or lying so his value goes down.

Decent point totals and the underlying numbers show he was fantastic at both ends of the ice. Big forward...would be plenty of interest.

- Santo_44


You clearly don’t have a clue. He started hot along with the rest of the team and dropped off a cliff as the year went on. Was barely on the roster at the end of the season. McD and Drai don’t want to play with him. He’s bad. You can have him.

There have been multiple reports over the last couple days that the oilers and Pulj are breaking up as it were.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:10 PM ET
I understand the mechanics but I don’t understand why he wouldn’t want to hit free agency. This might be his only crack at a decent payday and limiting himself to negotiating with one team seems very, well, limiting.
- Canada Cup


Its not his choice if his rights are traded so that team can flip the rights if he doesn't want to stay and possible, its possible the 8th year could take effect to lower AAV.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:13 PM ET
You clearly don’t have a clue. He started hot along with the rest of the team and dropped off a cliff as the year went on. Was barely on the roster at the end of the season. McD and Drai don’t want to play with him. He’s bad. You can have him.

There have been multiple reports over the last couple days that the oilers and Pulj are breaking up as it were.

- TurdFergeson
https://twitter.com/JFres...tatus/1534570337530167300


Cool, don't agree with you
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:14 PM ET
Its not his choice if his rights are traded so that team can flip the rights if he doesn't want to stay and possible, its possible the 8th year could take effect to lower AAV.
- Aaron_85



If a team wants to give Campbell an 8 yr deal, that's terrible.. I feel bad enough for Arizona
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 30 @ 2:16 PM ET
https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1534570337530167300


Cool, don't agree with you

- Santo_44


https://oilersnation.com/...-heading-towards-a-split/
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:16 PM ET
Ok

Miss the playoffs, be lucky to make it. Same difference.

- GreatGigInTheSky

I didn't say that either. I said they would make the playoffs.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:17 PM ET
If a team wants to give Campbell an 8 yr deal, that's terrible.. I feel bad enough for Arizona
- PatC80


All the power to him. He's out for solid money. Its his chance to make his career contract.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:18 PM ET
https://oilersnation.com/2022/06/29/tom-gazzola-jesse-puljujarvi-and-edmonton-oilers-heading-towards-a-split/
- TurdFergeson

This article doesn't back your opinion up whatsoever.

The only similarities that you share is that you both think Pulujujarvi is not an Oiler next season. No where does it say he won't be qualified, in fact is says he would want a forward who can score 25-30 goals in return.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jun 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
This article doesn't back your opinion up whatsoever.

The only similarities that you share is that you both think Pulujujarvi is not an Oiler next season. No where does it say he won't be qualified, in fact is says he would want a forward who can score 25-30 goals in return.

- Santo_44


They don’t want him back as I said. No one likes playing with him. And the advanced stats are hilarious to anyone that has watched him. This blogger can say they want a 25-30 goal scorer for him all they want. They aren’t getting that in a million years.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 30 @ 2:22 PM ET
Today was supposed to be the start of an 11-day roadtrip.

Last night, a nail decided to marry one of our tires. Our two-month old tires.

Can’t be repaired.

Good news: it’s covered by warranty.

Bad news: it’s a weird size, nobody has one, so it’s 7-10 business days.

FML
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
They don’t want him back as I said. No one likes playing with him. And the advanced stats are hilarious to anyone that has watched him. They can say they want a 25-30 goal scorer for him all they want. They aren’t getting that in a million years.
- TurdFergeson

Like I said I very much disagree with you.

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
I do hope they bring Boosh back on a cheaper deal.

Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Liljegren
Sandin-Boosh

Play Muzzin part time or trade him, I don't think he can handle a full 82 game season anymore.

- PatC80


Muzz may have been our best D in the Tampa series ...I'm not giving up on him yet. Baby him next year and have him ready to go for April.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
Its not his choice if his rights are traded so that team can flip the rights if he doesn't want to stay and possible, its possible the 8th year could take effect to lower AAV.
- Aaron_85

If you trade for a guy now, you can’t offer him an 8-year deal.

It would be interesting to see the signing success rate for teams that trade for a player’s rights, prior to July 1.
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