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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 7 @ 11:19 AM ET
Hextall did for sure. What about the old guard that is back in control now?
- StepfordSam


Not this again.... they aren't.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 11:26 AM ET
When it comes to Morin, Patrick, O'brien, Rubstov, is it a case of ruining, or is it drafting guys who can't play?

Hell, Frost may end up being a bust too. That is 5 first round picks, they have literally gotten nothing out of.

- PLindbergh31


Historically they've usually made the most of their 1st-rounders.

As much as I enjoy laughing at the team these days, I think we're just seeing a string of bad luck and extraordinary circumstances.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 7 @ 11:26 AM ET
To the Flyers' credit, the mocks ALWAYS have them taking some big power forward... but they've mostly avoided the Lawson Crouse and Max Jones types with their top picks.

Sam Morin was something different.

- Tomahawk


Max jones wouldve been a great pick over who we took. At least he plays
It does seem like fletcher has gotten away from the solid 200ft player though. Hopefully his picks pan out
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 7 @ 11:27 AM ET
Not this again.... they aren't.
- bmeltzer


Of course they are. The proof is that Chuck Fletcher is the President of Hockey Operations and the General Manager.

Technically you're right, the old guard doesn't control the granulars of the draft. But they continue to heavily influence the macro-direction of the organization.
Flyerfan328
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Joined: 08.06.2018

Jul 7 @ 11:27 AM ET
Yes, taking my daughter. Didn’t realize it was draft night when I bought tix although CF hasn’t called and asked my opinion in some time now.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:33 AM ET
The only thing that I'm sure of is that whoever they select will struggle mightily to overcome the Flyer's horrid developmental program. Well, that and Fletcher's inevitable move of an asset to unload JVR's contract in full so he can lock up another unnecessary vet or 2 to long term deals.

SELL THE TEAM!

- BiggE

I’m with you BiggE. If they were a good team I’d have interest in Gaudreau or DeBrincat. But this team? As constructed? They should be in full sell/tank mode.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:33 AM ET
I really don't think we want any of these kids stepping into this mess immediately. Turn another promising talent into a stunted Provorov .
- Tomahawk

Wonder if they can get the Islanders first round pick for Provy.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:35 AM ET
I think Button hit the nail on the head with the Max Pacioretty comparison, which I think is more accurate than McKeen's Jeff Carter comparison. The knee-jerk reactors may have called ca. draft year Pacioretty a "stupid" pick, too, because he hadn't yet become a prospect that was a clear-cut future (5-time) 30-goal scorer in the NHL.

There are about 10 different prospects who could be justified this year with the fifth pick in a class where most everyone has some question marks and no one is a slam-dunk franchise player.

With Gauthier, I am note sure if he handles and distributes the puck well enough to be a top center in the NHL. But I do think he can become a productive winger and a better goal scorer than some think he'll be. Pacioretty level is a ceiling. But there are similarities at age 18.

- bmeltzer

Oh terrific. That’s who I want them to spend the 5th pick on.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 7 @ 11:40 AM ET
Yearly reminder that Ek knows a lot of the traffic to his site are Flyers fans. Keep that in mind when you read his rumor blog.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
Yearly reminder that Ek knows a lot of the traffic to his site are Flyers fans. Keep that in mind when you read his rumor blog.
- StepfordSam

I actually believe that one, sadly.

Not a shot at Johnny in the slightest. Love the player. He can help this team. But they are a mess all over. The timing is all wrong. They need to strip it down and start over. Really actually start over. Things will get worse before they get better.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:46 AM ET
Yearly reminder that Ek knows a lot of the traffic to his site are Flyers fans. Keep that in mind when you read his rumor blog.
- StepfordSam

Stayin Alive is Eks source
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:46 AM ET
Yearly reminder that Ek knows a lot of the traffic to his site are Flyers fans. Keep that in mind when you read his rumor blog.
- StepfordSam


But many flyers fans are so disgusted with the team that throwing out nonsense as EK is just makes it worse.
Let JG stay in Calgary. He isn’t go to live the needle much here.
Chuck Fletcher the race to mediocrity could be his bio.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 11:47 AM ET
Wonder if they can get the Islanders first round pick for Provy.
- Flyers1218


He's a bit young for Uncle Lou, isn't he?
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jul 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
Bill, which if any of the top 10 potential picks do you see possibly wearing a “C” down the road?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
Trade for JG righs is awesome...for JG. He is smart he wants that extra year. His peeps tell Chuck trade for my rights or I go elsewhere.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
Big moves today and in the next week. I don't see us standing pat and entering the season without improving roster.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
When it comes to Morin, Patrick, O'brien, Rubstov, is it a case of ruining, or is it drafting guys who can't play?

Hell, Frost may end up being a bust too. That is 5 first round picks, they have literally gotten nothing out of.

- PLindbergh31


It's largely been (major and in a couple cases, multiple) injuries.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:57 AM ET

- Tomahawk

Mcdavidesque
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
Anyone going to see Thor tonight?
- SuperSchennBros


The only reason i would watch that dogpoop is for Bale
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:58 AM ET
We do not have any top end talent (elite) on the roster but I don't think we are that bad either. I think last season left a bad taste in our mouths but we did have some injuries. I think, with the right moves, we are back in the mix. Maybe not Cup contenders, but back to the playoffs.

We need Coots and Farabee back healthy. Who knows with Ellis but he would be a strong addition.

I think TK is moved. Hopefully JVR.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:59 AM ET
We do not have any top end talent (elite) on the roster but I don't think we are that bad either. I think last season left a bad taste in our mouths but we did have some injuries. I think, with the right moves, we are back in the mix. Maybe not Cup contenders, but back to the playoffs.

We need Coots and Farabee back healthy. Who knows with Ellis but he would be a strong addition.

I think TK is moved. Hopefully JVR.

- cdearth23

Who in gods name is the right mix you think we have? Is Frost magically going to be Giroux 2.0 we have been hearing about for the past 4 years?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 7 @ 12:02 PM ET
But many flyers fans are so disgusted with the team that throwing out nonsense as EK is just makes it worse.
Let JG stay in Calgary. He isn’t go to live the needle much here.
Chuck Fletcher the race to mediocrity could be his bio.

- bird_dog_pa


WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Kind of a joke in asking because the excitement will be surround the draft tonight but yes, I am going. I’m relieved this movie is coming out today instead of watching the draft in it’s entirety. The draft is either hit or miss for me. The Provorov and Konency draft was a hit for me. Even picked up a waitress later that night, which rare but happened.
- SuperSchennBros



Sorry, i don't have live tv tight now so we find things to do. We can't watch the draft.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Who in gods name is the right mix you think we have? Is Frost magically going to be Giroux 2.0 we have been hearing about for the past 4 years?
- ClaudeFather


I'm saying we need to make moves. There is no elite talent on the roster. But I don't believe we are starting from garbage. There is no way we compete without making moves.

I'll also say that if we do bring in Johnny Hockey, we need another player that will compliment him. That player is not on the roster.
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