Can someone book this page please, so that when people female dog about it in 5 years, we know exactly who was right and who was wrong.

JVR is absolutely gone if they are going to sign JG. JVR couldn't play for Torts anyway. Torts would probably literally walk over to him on the bench and slap him for being so soft.
- Phillywhiteout

Let's hope JVR is gone whether we sign JG or not. Can't stand JVR and never liked him from his first time here. I'd love to see Torts get on his case if he is still with us.

When JG re-signs in Calgary, this place is gonna be a shambles.
- Tomahawk

I for one won't be in shambles cause I don't want JG. Yeah, he will sell tickets and make lots of uneducated locals happy, but he ain't winning you a Cup. He will make the Flyers a bubble team that will have no chance of doing anything exciting come playoff time cause JG just isn't physical enough to be that go to guy when the going gets rough. I was watching that series against the Oilers this spring and once things started to get physical he disappeared. He is not what the Flyers need to use lots of cap space on.

Let's hope JVR is gone whether we sign JG or not. Can't stand JVR and never liked him from his first time here. I'd love to see Torts get on his case if he is still with us.
- Don Nachbaur

When JG re-signs in Calgary, this place is gonna be a shambles.
- Tomahawk

I'm ok with Flyers not signing JG. They have so much more to fix

I for one won't be in shambles cause I don't want JG. Yeah, he will sell tickets and make lots of uneducated locals happy, but he ain't winning you a Cup. He will make the Flyers a bubble team that will have no chance of doing anything exciting come playoff time cause JG just isn't physical enough to be that go to guy when the going gets rough. Hard pass for me.
- Phillywhiteout

Yea, I agree. I think for the most part on here, people don't want JG. He will sell tix and jerseys which is what the front office cares about, but we are a long way from contending for the cup, so it's probably not worth it.

I for one won't be in shambles cause I don't want JG. Yeah, he will sell tickets and make lots of uneducated locals happy, but he ain't winning you a Cup. He will make the Flyers a bubble team that will have no chance of doing anything exciting come playoff time cause JG just isn't physical enough to be that go to guy when the going gets rough. I was watching that series against the Oilers this spring and once things started to get physical he disappeared. He is not what the Flyers need to use lots of cap space on.
- Phillywhiteout

I agree with the main point. But it's all about the mix of players, never about one guy.

How big or physical was Danny Briere? How did he do when the playoffs rolled around?

I hope you're wrong, but unfortunately I can't prove you wrong as far as the incompetence goes. Agreed, I wanted Cooley if he was on the board and my sleeper pick was Nazar.
- Phillywhiteout

I’ve been very critical for yearsssss on this site. I honestly thought it was extremely obvious this was strong possible direction this team was headed. I had that last hope when hexy was hired and some movement toward new nhl. Cap clean up. Stock piling picks etc. after the first few years it started to flip back and then he’s fired and bias for action came back full force.

Downhill with record speed since.

The trading of assets for such lousy return and contracts giving to aging players just kinda last straw for me.

I’ll always be a flyers fan. Can’t help that. But it’s just from afar.

I live out of town and still watch all the games. Well until this year. Listen to podcast. Go on hb here and there but just not close to top of list or anywhere near it anymore.

So falling one spot cost them Shane Wright.
- PLindbergh31

all those meaningless wins mean something right?

I don’t mind the pick since none of the top 4 slid, they just went in an order most didn’t predict.

There seemed to be a close talent level from 5-12, so I was kinda hoping they’d trade back to 7-10, get another 3rd if possible, and roll the dice on Kemell, Nazar, or Savoie. Gauthier could still have possibly been there.

I have a feeling everyone drafting in that spot felt the same way, so Philly probably wasn’t receiving too many phone calls like that.

But Gauthier is fine, and we really don’t know what these guys are going to pan out as, so c’est la vie. Let’s hope we luck out with a good one.




Oh, and RIP Jimmy Caan, one of the all-time greats.
You couldn’t have gotten him off the hook? For old time’s sake?

I'm ok with Flyers not signing JG. They have so much more to fix
- Oberyn23

I don’t think anyone here wants Gaudreau with the absolute turd roster we have.

I agree with the main point. But it's all about the mix of players, never about one guy.

How big or physical was Danny Briere? How did he do when the playoffs rolled around?
- bmeltzer

Bill your point is good but using briere as example is kinda well bad. Briere was definitely a rare breed coke playoff time. Honestly I for one was very disappointed in briere time in Philly as a whole. Coming off almost 100 point season in bumbalo I hoped he’d bring his game to that level maybe even more for whole season in Philly. He never really did. He was kinda underachiever in regular season. Not horrible just not dominant. But he flipped that switch come playoff time. He was one of the best coke playoff time in his era. That kinda made up for it all. Jg or similar type players really shouldn’t be in same breath as far as playoffs as a briere example. But your point is valid.

I agree with the main point. But it's all about the mix of players, never about one guy.

How big or physical was Danny Briere? How did he do when the playoffs rolled around?
- bmeltzer

Bill, I agree about the mix of players. Danny B is one of my all time favorites bc despite his size, he always held his own and didn't allow himself to get pushed around. That said, we always had guys like Hartnell, Richards, Simmonds, and even the Carcillo types on the team. The issue with the current team in the past few years is that we don't match up physically as far as I can see. I am far from an expert, but going back to 2020, I felt despite our win, the Canadiens pushed us around and then we were way overmatched physically by the Islanders. If we added JG with Frost, Tippett, etc, my concern is how we will fare in the playoffs against teams with the right mix of players?

Let's hope JVR is gone whether we sign JG or not. Can't stand JVR and never liked him from his first time here. I'd love to see Torts get on his case if he is still with us.
- Don Nachbaur

Totally agree. Such a waste Jvr is. With his talent if he had even an ounce of heart or will to do anything he could’ve been so much more.

I agree with the main point. But it's all about the mix of players, never about one guy.

How big or physical was Danny Briere? How did he do when the playoffs rolled around?
- bmeltzer

Yeah, I guess my point is that the Flyers just aren't in the position to make the JG signing worthwhile. I mean, if one wanted to be totally positive you could make a case. That would involve Coots and Ellis coming back healthy(probably unlikely), and a few of the young guys stepping up their games along with Hart becoming the world class goalie that we expected(I know the defense has been awful the past couple of seasons). It all seems like a longshot and not worth the large AAV that signing JG will require.

Yeah, I guess my point is that the Flyers just aren't in the position to make the JG signing worthwhile. I mean, if one wanted to be totally positive you could make a case. That would involve Coots and Ellis coming back healthy(probably unlikely), and a few of the young guys stepping up their games along with Hart becoming the world class goalie that we expected(I know the defense has been awful the past couple of seasons). It all seems like a longshot and not worth the large AAV that signing JG will require.
- Phillywhiteout

What a (frank)ing Simp, you are

How many GM's in the NHL have been manager of both a father and son?

Chuck had Sean Gauthier for a few years as AGM for Florida/GM for Louisville and now has drafted his son in Philly 20 years later

Jsaq, ob18, hammarby31, 77rams, KINGKENZO,

Claudefather is my new version of jmatchett383

My personal favorite and your’s crims!!!
- SuperSchennBros

Flyskippy and a couple of others I’m sure I’m forgetting. I have the most generic name, but I’ve been lurking here occasionally since the Briere offseason (sadly).

Things are what you make them
- funmaster18

Yes with an if
No with a but

If that makes sense.

When JG re-signs in Calgary, this place is gonna be a shambles.
- Tomahawk

Nah…. that happening may force them to be honest about their situation, which we all agree, needs to happen.

Totally agree. Such a waste Jvr is. With his talent if he had even an ounce of heart or will to do anything he could’ve been so much more.
- Stayin alive

Yes, he puts up points but he been one dimensional his whole career. He steps it up on contract years and like this past year, when we were out of contention. I know the Schenn trade was in Toronto's favor but it's not like JVR put the Leafs over the top. I am too lazy to check but I don't recall the Leafs going too far in the playoffs when he was there.

What a (frank)ing Simp, you are
- THE BLACK HAND

Awww, look who is still is still here. He is jealous cause adults are having a hockey conversation and he can't join in. Rejected again, but I'm sure you are used to rejection in your pathetic little life. Now why don't you go snuggle up with your blowup doll and leave us adults to have intelligent conversations. I'm sure it's well past your bedtime. You dizzy simp!

What a (frank)ing Simp, you are
- THE BLACK HAND

Why is this a bad assessment? We have no clue about Coot and Ellis, and even if they are healthy, they are aging and not likely to return to form. This is coming from a fan of Coots and one who supported the Ellis trade. I am as big a Flyers fan as anyone and would love JG here, but realistically, what would it accomplish in the long run based on the current state of the team? There would need to be several other changes and we are pretty limited with the changes we could make.

Yes, he puts up points but he been one dimensional his whole career. He steps it up on contract years and like this past year, when we were out of contention. I know the Schenn trade was in Toronto's favor but it's not like JVR put the Leafs over the top. I am too lazy to check but I don't recall the Leafs going too far in the playoffs when he was there.
- Don Nachbaur

Babcock was coaching there when JVR was with the Laffs. A very interesting stat I came across years ago. Babcock gave JVR an average of 17 minutes of ice time in the regular season, but his ice time dropped to 14 minutes per game in the playoffs. Kind of tells you what Babcock really thought of JVR come crunch time.

Why is this a bad assessment? We have no clue about Coot and Ellis, and even if they are healthy, they are aging and not likely to return to form. This is coming from a fan of Coots and one who supported the Ellis trade. I am as big a Flyers fan as anyone and would love JG here, but realistically, what would it accomplish in the long run based on the current state of the team? There would need to be several other changes and we are pretty limited with the changes we could make.
- Don Nachbaur

Pay no attention to anything he has to say. He is just a troll on here that adds nothing of substance.