Letang reupped 6-years $36.6M... that's one bullet dodged.
- Tomahawk

Queue the Tory Krug one that's in the chamber!

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hit is good for the value, who knows maybe he can fight father time. When considering older players I prefer players that have plus skating and hockey IQ
- wcorvette

I think thats a great deal for the pens, that cap hit isnt bad at all for letang

35+ contract too, so no retirement shenanigans.
- Tomahawk

Penguins are in that tough spot, just kind of have to keep going back at it and hope you break through. Don’t want to be the guy that finally pulls the plug.

is this not a lot to pay?


Rangers trade Georgiev to the Avalanche
NYR have acquired a third-round and fifth-round selection in the 2022 NHL Draft, as well as a third-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft, from Colorado in exchange for goaltender Alexandar Georgiev.

Penguins are in that tough spot, just kind of have to keep going back at it and hope you break through. Don’t want to be the guy that finally pulls the plug.
- ClaudeFather

Yeah, last kick at the can. Then they'll bottom out and it won't matter if Malkin and Letang are millstones on the cap for a bit.

is this not a lot to pay?


Rangers trade Georgiev to the Avalanche
NYR have acquired a third-round and fifth-round selection in the 2022 NHL Draft, as well as a third-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft, from Colorado in exchange for goaltender Alexandar Georgiev.
- wcorvette

Once you figure in draft position, it's not so bad.

They don't. Yes Fletcher and Clarke are close . That doesn't mean Clarke gets major imput. That is a myth. He is not one to interfere or force his opinions on the GM. He didn't do it with Homer, was barely even around during Hexy's tenure and he doesn't do it with Fletcher either.
- bmeltzer

Clarke absolutely gets major input on the direction of the Flyers. He has the ear of Dave Scott, not Fletcher. Clarke wasn't around during Hextall because that is what Hextall intended, and it irked Clarke to the nth degree. There is zero doubt that was a major contributing factor, along with Scott losing his testicular fortitude, to make a change back into constant Win Now mode.

If ASKED for his opinion, he gives it. Straight up, no hedging or apologies.
- bmeltzer

The GM shouldn't even have his number. Maybe the GM's secretary should have it to schedule golf outings and charity/alumni events.

Fletcher was hired because, to Comcast Spectacor, being a Harvard grad, former agent and longtime NHL GM whom they felt could relate to the business side as well as hockey fit what they wanted. Clarke's personal endorsement was down on the list but a bonus. Zito (Yale grad, prolific former agent, Columbus AGM) was the runner up for the same basic reasons.
- bmeltzer

You're underselling the Clarke endorsement. It was a big factor. Dave Scott knows zero about hockey. Zilch. So he went with what he knew. And it was the wrong hire. A competent executive would've viewed Fletcher's past GM experience as a disqualifying factor.

Once you figure in draft position, it's not so bad.
- Tomahawk

yeah that helps but WOW, they must believe in him. If you look at the AVs picks next 3 years, they are a perfect picture of WIN NOW

yeah that helps but WOW, they must believe in him. If you look at the AVs picks next 3 years, they are a perfect picture of WIN NOW
- wcorvette

Haha yeah, their first pick in 2022 isn't until the 6th round

There are different management styles. He's the collaborative type (which is something else that appeals to Dave Scott, by the way), for better or for worse.
- bmeltzer

Not about the management style. About consulting people who the game has passed by. Then likely heading their advice.

Lol, Ottawa... tried to trade Matt Murray to Buffalo but Murray refused. Sens fans overjoyed because they would have had to retain salary AND trade down 9 spots from 7th-overall. Hilarious.

The greatest save Matt Murray has made for the Ottawa Senators

Haha yeah, their first pick in 2022 isn't until the 6th round
- Tomahawk

no 2nd, 3rd and 4th next season, then no 2nd and 3rd the following season, cant argue, they are young and set up to win

This is the issue. Chuck even asking at this stage.
- hello it's me 2050

The key word you seemed to have missed is "IF". And who the hell cares if Chuck asks Clarke. Clarke will just give an opinion. Just let it go!

Saw something on twitter, that with the Ellis situation the Flyers could look at Deangelo. He is an RFA but I know Carolina gave him permission to seek a trade.

Clarke absolutely gets major input on the direction of the Flyers. He has the ear of Dave Scott, not Fletcher. Clarke wasn't around during Hextall because that is what Hextall intended, and it irked Clarke to the nth degree. There is zero doubt that was a major contributing factor, along with Scott losing his testicular fortitude, to make a change back into constant Win Now mode.



The GM shouldn't even have his number. Maybe the GM's secretary should have it to schedule golf outings and charity/alumni events.




You're underselling the Clarke endorsement. It was a big factor. Dave Scott knows zero about hockey. Zilch. So he went with what he knew. And it was the wrong hire. A competent executive would've viewed Fletcher's past GM experience as a disqualifying factor.
- StepfordSam

Do you concrete evidence what you say is true? If not, you speak hearsay like Amber Heards witnesses.

To the Flyers' credit, the mocks ALWAYS have them taking some big power forward... but they've mostly avoided the Lawson Crouse and Max Jones types with their top picks.

Sam Morin was something different.
- Tomahawk

Forgot about Max Jones. Max Domi took his place as a bad pick.

Lol, Ottawa... tried to trade Matt Murray to Buffalo but Murray refused. Sens fans overjoyed because they would have had to retain salary AND trade down 9 spots from 7th-overall. Hilarious.




- Tomahawk

Buffalo's cap space already coming through as an asset. Pretty crazy he declined because he'd probably play a lot in Buffalo. Don't see how he plays in front of either Forsberg or Gustavsson

I'm hoping for the best, but I'm ready to be disappointed.

There is no sane argument that can be made for the ongoing retention of Fletcher in any capacity.

The only explanation is that Scott is so incompetent in his position, that he doesn't see the need for a change.

Fletcher is also an interesting fallback. Whats the excuse for the continued employed of the Flyers development staff?

Sorry, i don't have live tv tight now so we find things to do. We can't watch the draft.
- WhiskeyMan

Meh! You only wanna see the first 5 picks in any draft and then your own team’s pick.

They don't. Yes Fletcher and Clarke are close . That doesn't mean Clarke gets major imput. That is a myth. He is not one to interfere or force his opinions on the GM. He didn't do it with Homer, was barely even around during Hexy's tenure and he doesn't do it with Fletcher either.

If ASKED for his opinion, he gives it. Straight up, no hedging or apologies.

The Flyers hired an outside agency to oversee the candidate pool for the coaching vacancy. Neither Clarke nor Homer sat in on a single interview. Fletcher, Flahr and Briere were only hockey ops people involved in first interview round. Those three plus Dean Lombardi (the least mentioned senior advisor yet the only one who is involved in higher end stuff anymore) were the ones in the room for the second interviews.

Fletcher was hired because, to Comcast Spectacor, being a Harvard grad, former agent and longtime NHL GM whom they felt could relate to the business side as well as hockey fit what they wanted. Clarke's personal endorsement was down on the list but a bonus. Zito (Yale grad, prolific former agent, Columbus AGM) was the runner up for the same basic reasons.
- bmeltzer

The overall guiding principles of how a franchise or a business operates is what defines it. The Flyers unwillingness to put a patient draft and develop process in place that would result in a significant period of down years in favor of aggressively trying to win now, is what defines this organizations. That principle is put in place by the influence of the old guard of Clarke, Holmgren, Barber, etc. That is who influences Dave Scott. They don't have to sit in on meetings or be in daily contact with hockey ops.

Harvard is a nice school and it's great that he can relate to the other suits, but they might have wanted to take a look at his track record as a GM.
- Dkos

Maybe huh?

not hockey but in business I don't know any good leaders who don't collaborate. The top dog makes the call once they have all the best information
- wcorvette

Collaboration is just being the spokesman and giving the decision that the collective made.

35+ contract too, so no retirement shenanigans.
- Tomahawk

Not necessarily. Depends on how the contract is structured.