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Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 7 @ 6:59 PM ET
Curious to see how Debrincat does without Patrick Kane feeding him points. How many points did he get without compared to with Kane on the Hawks? After Pius Suter, i'm weary of anyone that plays with Kane that goes to another team being able to come even close to the type of production they did with him.
- dcz28

That is my only concern with Debrincat. Kane is an elite talent. Ottawa doesn't have that level of playmaker on the team yet. We saw Dadanov do next to nothing with no Huberdeau. Hopefully Stu and Debrincat get some chemistry. I do think Debrincat is much more capable than Dadanov ever was.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 6:59 PM ET
If another move is to be made.
What would be more beneficial a top 4 shut down d or a bona-fide #1 goalie?

- spazzbot


Top 4 D!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
That is my only concern with Debrincat. Kane is an elite talent. Ottawa doesn't have that level of playmaker on the team yet. We saw Dadanov do next to nothing with no Huberdeau. Hopefully Stu and Debrincat get some chemistry. I do think Debrincat is much more capable than Dadanov ever was.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Agreed!
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:01 PM ET
trading a top 10 pick for 1.5 years of player is dumb, especially when the team is still in the bottom 10, if they do not extend him then this is a disaster of a trade.
- Mithos

What if they extended him, gave more to the hawks to acquire as a result, and still finish bottom 10?

Lots of what if's are possible. Why focus on negative ones?
Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

Jul 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
Maybe we can see how Dibrincat plays and then get moving on an extension? Lots of time to figure it out. If Dibrincat works out, that means the team is winning and he is performing well. Extension could come easily. If it doesn't work out, you can move on family easily.

Relax. Enjoy seeing a big name trade TO town rather than AWAY from town.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Ya I agree, I get everyone’s worried that debrincat is going to cost too much or won’t extend, but he hasn’t even played yet!

We don’t even know if this is going to work or not for both sides.

I want this to play itself out, see if it’s a match..and if it is? Discuss extension.

At the end of the day we gave up picks in what is considered a very confusing draft that doesn’t even have a consensus #1..let alone top 10

Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

Jul 7 @ 7:07 PM ET
If another move is to be made.
What would be more beneficial a top 4 shut down d or a bona-fide #1 goalie?

- spazzbot


#1 freakin goalie and it’s not even close!

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 7 @ 7:07 PM ET
He truly did with this trade, but he played his hand on Murray, which will put him at the mercy of other GMs when trying to unload him!
- Kevin Francis


I don't think so. My understanding (Garrioch) is that had the Buffalo deal gone through the #7, plus Murray and another warm body would have gone to Buffalo and the #16 coming back to Ottawa would have been flipped to Chicago with additional picks for Debrincat.


david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 7 @ 7:21 PM ET
Ya I agree, I get everyone’s worried that debrincat is going to cost too much or won’t extend, but he hasn’t even played yet!

We don’t even know if this is going to work or not for both sides.

I want this to play itself out, see if it’s a match..and if it is? Discuss extension.

At the end of the day we gave up picks in what is considered a very confusing draft that doesn’t even have a consensus #1..let alone top 10

- Trilla



Especially with high picks , but those don't always work out. Looking back to the Ryan trade, Nick Ritchie looked pretty good, but has had a fairly pedestrian career, not to knock him.

Big difference this time is that he's an RFA too, as opposed to a UFA like previous trade targets.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jul 7 @ 7:22 PM ET
That is my only concern with Debrincat. Kane is an elite talent. Ottawa doesn't have that level of playmaker on the team yet. We saw Dadanov do next to nothing with no Huberdeau. Hopefully Stu and Debrincat get some chemistry. I do think Debrincat is much more capable than Dadanov ever was.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Yeah, i hope for you guys that it isn't a Cheechoo effect of just playing with an elite playmaker.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:26 PM ET
holy crap Habs passed on Wright
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:34 PM ET
holy crap Habs passed on Wright
- Mithos

Really interesting! Wright left people wanting more all year. Looks like it caught up with him.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:37 PM ET
Really interesting! Wright left people wanting more all year. Looks like it caught up with him.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


if this ends up like Wickenheiser...Hughes will need police escort to leave the city
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:37 PM ET
holy crap Habs passed on Wright
- Mithos



The Devils pass on Wright!
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:38 PM ET
wow Devils also passed on Wright
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:42 PM ET
The Devils pass on Wright!
- Kevin Francis

you got any info on what make Habs and Devils AND ARI pass on Wright?
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jul 7 @ 7:47 PM ET
you got any info on what make Habs and Devils AND ARI pass on Wright?
- Mithos

Wright seemed excessively confident for a guy who hadn't shown great progression in his draft year.
Slafkovsky had a great year. Nemec is a high end DMan and Cooley has been seen as having the most upside.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:47 PM ET
is this the first time in NHL history a player projected to go 1st OA drop to 4th?
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:58 PM ET
UPDATED - The Yotes are asking for 2023 1st round pick unprotected, JBD and Sokolov. I was told AZ asked for Brannstrom too, to acquire Chychrun. Yotes are maintaining they want 4 pieces for him.....Sens offering 3 pieces.....Yotes have countered asking for the Sens 2nd rd pick they got from TB.


is that still with a unprotected 2023 1st?
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 8:18 PM ET
CHI took Kevin Korchinski with 7th, ranked early to late teens
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 9:07 PM ET
UPDATED - The Yotes are asking for 2023 1st round pick unprotected, JBD and Sokolov. I was told AZ asked for Brannstrom too, to acquire Chychrun. Yotes are maintaining they want 4 pieces for him.....Sens offering 3 pieces.....Yotes have countered asking for the Sens 2nd rd pick they got from TB.


is that still with a unprotected 2023 1st?

- Mithos


Sorry I haven't been able to get in here to post for an hour, site was down.

PD wants to included Zaitsev so something else will need to be added white retaining some salary!
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 9:09 PM ET
Sorry I haven't been able to get in here to post for an hour, site was down.

PD wants to included Zaitsev so something else will need to be added white retaining some salary!

- Kevin Francis



you and everyone else, the problem IMO is the unprotected 2023 1st, Yotes know that even with Chyrch, Cat and possibly Giroux, with smith as HC OTT is still bottom 10 team
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
you and everyone else, the problem IMO is the unprotected 2023 1st, Yotes know that even with Chyrch, Cat and possibly Giroux, with smith as HC OTT is still bottom 10 team
- Mithos

The obvious monkey in the room is Conner Bedard next year being the best prospect since McDavid. Odds that Ottawa would fall that far with a legitimately improved roster is slim. In addition, odds to win the lottery would have to be a perfect storm. How bad luck would that actually be? Teams like the Habs and Hawks are totally rebuilding to get a shot at Bedard.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 9:14 PM ET
you and everyone else, the problem IMO is the unprotected 2023 1st, Yotes know that even with Chyrch, Cat and possibly Giroux, with smith as HC OTT is still bottom 10 team
- Mithos


If they add these pieces, Giroux and Jakob C, they arent a bottom 10 team. There are teams that are going to seriously regress.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
The obvious monkey in the room is Conner Bedard next year being the best prospect since McDavid. Odds that Ottawa would fall that far with a legitimately improved roster is slim. In addition, odds to win the lottery would have to be a perfect storm. How bad luck would that actually be? Teams like the Habs and Hawks are totally rebuilding to get a shot at Bedard.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Man I feel for Luke Richardson.....sounds like Kane and Seth Jones are on the move too.....holy cow!
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 9:15 PM ET
If they add these pieces, Giroux and Jakob C, they arent a bottom 10 team. There are teams that are going to seriously regress.
- Kevin Francis


Boston and Leafs if they stick with Mrazek as their #1
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