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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:13 PM ET
Sometimes it seems you need to be terrible for 5 to 10 years in hopes of getting that generational talent. Look at the leafs and oilers. That was basically what it took.
- Hextall271


Avalanche as well. They were in last place multiple times in the last 10 years (and a 2nd worst record in 2011).
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 8 @ 1:14 PM ET
Hannibal from the A-Team loved “when a plan came together.” Since December 2021, Chuck a Fletcher has been apparently coming up with his plan. Is it, eh ah, coming together?
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:14 PM ET
Tony D will help the team, but Fletch over paid. He should have signed him last year. Some people are complaining about him being racist, a Trump supporter or whatever. I don't care what he does off the ice, as long as he plays well on the ice.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 8 @ 1:15 PM ET
No, no and no
- Tomahawk

yes, yes, and yes.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
Avalanche as well. They were in last place multiple times in the last 10 years (and a 2nd worst record in 2011).
- Flyers_01


You probably need 10 years of rebuild to hit on the generational talent. We almost had one in Kane but that’s the last one we were close on ffs.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
Another MN kid for Chuckie
- TobyFlenderson

Not liking that pick.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:17 PM ET

My apologies. Youll have to forgive my blindass, i thought it was a different person

- THE BLACK HAND

i was going to say haha threw me for a loop.

and you were cracking on St louis for being old haha
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
Well he’s so bad at d then he’s marginally better than yandle. He’ll have to play sheltered 3rd pair minutes and hope he can be dynamite on the pp. this squad is also not Carolina. We’re coming off a season with a terrible pp 2 which can’t be fixed by 1 player Imo
- Hextall271




Have to look at things the correct way. It's a major upgrade from Yandle. Yea Fletch!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
Have to look at things the correct way. It's a major upgrade from Yandle. Yea Fletch!
- MJL


Glass is officially half full
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
SInce everyone is doing it.

They gave

2024: a 2nd in a year they have 2 first
2023: a 3rd in a year they have three 3rd rounders
2022: a 4th in a year that is supposedly a weaker draft


I am not really too upset about this especially if Ellis is down most of the season.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:22 PM ET
Is it possible D'Angelo was brought in to fix the locker room issues? My research is telling me that he should be in the running for the Lady Byng trophy this year.
- StepfordSam

He’ll be in Chucks ear about Kate Smith for sure
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
From a Canes site (season review);

The playoffs were kind of a similar story for DeAngelo, who started things out on fire before starting to struggle. He had eight points in seven games in Carolina’s first-round series against Boston, but he managed just two points in seven games against his former team in the second round as the Hurricanes exited the postseason earlier than expected.

All that was offensive contribution, certainly the stronger part of DeAngelo’s game as a blue liner. As good as he was at times moving the puck, he was also a liability defensively for a whole lot of the season.

While playing alongside Jaccob Slavin definitely allowed DeAngelo to be a little more aggressive in joining the attack, he consistently misplayed pucks and opposing skaters to allow chances. He isn’t a great defensive defenseman, something that was well known even before this season, and he had his fair share of struggles there throughout the year.

All in all, it was an interesting season to say the least for DeAngelo. At times, he looked like a completely capable offensive replacement for Hamilton, though he never matched Hamilton’s defensive abilities. But at other times, DeAngelo was somewhat absent.

Still, DeAngelo came into the mix in Raleigh and played arguably the best hockey of his NHL career with the Canes. From an on-ice standpoint, DeAngelo’s contributions while making just $1 million were a huge value add for the Hurricanes. He led the power play. He played on the top pairing, and he contributed in a way that I’m not even sure the Canes’ front office fully expected.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
SInce everyone is doing it.

They gave

2024: a 2nd in a year they have 2 first
2023: a 3rd in a year they have three 3rd rounders
2022: a 4th in a year that is supposedly a weaker draft


I am not really too upset about this especially if Ellis is down most of the season.

- J35Bacher

in a vacuum, thats not a crazy amount of value going out, nor is the contract that bad. its more of just this looks an awful lot like a dog chasing its tail.

wild how both the pens and the flyers keep getting distracted by the future and the present, respectively, when neither is in their best interests. the way the league is set up, you need to be definitively all in or all out. time spent in the middle is largely just treading water when really you need to just drown and get it over with.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
Can you say you never did or said anything in your youth that would be considered not PC or sexist or racist in any way, not in the slightest?
- WhiskeyMan


Lol.

You don't happen to be Anthony Deangelo's father do you?

https://twitter.com/DrewM...Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
How much space does a jvr buyout buy us? I’m thinking Ellis on ltir for the year and someone takes jvr.
- Hextall271


Only saves $2.6mil this year.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
SInce everyone is doing it.

They gave

2024: a 2nd in a year they have 2 first
2023: a 3rd in a year they have three 3rd rounders
2022: a 4th in a year that is supposedly a weaker draft


I am not really too upset about this especially if Ellis is down most of the season.

- J35Bacher

I see your point, but asset value remains a hard currency regardless how many assets you already have.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
in a vacuum, thats not a crazy amount of value going out, nor is the contract that bad. its more of just this looks an awful lot like a dog chasing its tail.

wild how both the pens and the flyers keep getting distracted by the future and the present, respectively, when neither is in their best interests. the way the league is set up, you need to be definitively all in or all out. time spent in the middle is largely just treading water when really you need to just drown and get it over with.

- stayinthefnnet


While I agree with the last part. You’re assuming the primary end goal in that scenario is winning a championship.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:29 PM ET
Kate Smith walked so Tony D could run
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 8 @ 1:29 PM ET
While playing alongside Jaccob Slavin definitely allowed DeAngelo to be a little more aggressive in joining the attack, he consistently misplayed pucks and opposing skaters to allow chances. He isn’t a great defensive defenseman, something that was well known even before this season, and he had his fair share of struggles there throughout the year.
- cdearth23


Sadly there is no Jaccob Slavin on the Flyers for him to hide behind.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
Kate Smith walked so Tony D could run
- PhillySportsGuy



THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Jul 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
Funniest thing is that Tony D is just RH Ghost and Risto is glorified Hagg lol.
- Tomahawk

Risto wasnt brought in to help cut down on goals against
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 8 @ 1:33 PM ET
DeAngelo is an RFA, not a UFA.
- MJL


My mistake. Thanks for the correction.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jul 8 @ 1:34 PM ET
Sadly there is no Jaccob Slavin on the Flyers for him to hide behind.
- Tomahawk


..and he is now close to home, close to the elements, friends, etc that influenced those earlier behaviors. YES...everyone should be afforded the opportunity for growth, but id be lying if I said that didnt worry me.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 8 @ 1:34 PM ET
Sadly there is no Jaccob Slavin on the Flyers for him to hide behind.
- Tomahawk


Agreed. This doesn't fill the potential hole left by Ellis. Hopefully something else is afoot.

Also, it was Deangelo AND a 7th. Much better:-)

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:36 PM ET
Whoever plays on the pair without Risto and DeAngelo is going to look like the best defensive dman in the league
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