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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
Ya, I doubt any North American team would sign him, he was and still is grossly overvalued by this fanbase.
I hear Sweden is the country to go to if you want to become a good hockey player.

- Reubenkincade


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Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 6:24 PM ET
Look at this and tell me I'm talking about something else?



Wow are you ever burned out... I go into detail what I mean over and over... and you want to argue about a word used a couple of times even though it doesn't change and context of the details. You truly are stupid as a shoe.

I choose not to use the word "agreement" simply because there is no agreement on the offer unless they can get confirmation that the player is willing to negotiate a extension. It remains a offer at this point in my opinion.

Why would you need to accommodate communication if you've already came to an agreement? Just pull the trigger on the trade and file the paperwork... You are just falling back on semantics to cover your inability to follow a conversation. The context is all there in my quotes. It doesn't change because I used the word "offer" twice in those quotes. Nice try Einstein

- boonerbuck


Great, at least you can count to 2. It's a start.

As I mentioned earlier, there is a big difference between offer and agreement. Especially when you are talking negotiations and contract law. That, my brainy friend, is a fact. Not semantics.

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 6:25 PM ET
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- 1970vintage


https://www.sportsnet.ca/...xtension-stay-khl/sn-amp/

Pretty sure no team is signing a player that is still under contract for next season, in the KHL
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
Great, at least you can count to 2. It's a start.

As I mentioned earlier, there is a big difference between offer and agreement. Especially when you are talking negotiations and contract law. That, my brainy friend, is a fact. Not semantics.

- Load Management


That's how you see it. I'm sure some others can rationalize that when an agreement hinges on requirements being met, the requirements need to be met first. Let us get confirmation from the player and we agree to give you XYZ. If not, we don't agree.

It is semantics. Your argument about a word doesn't mean I meant something else. Clearly I've explained what I meant over and over from beginning to now so you are just being a blockhead.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 6:47 PM ET
That's how you see it. I'm sure others can rationalize that when an agreement hinges on requirements being met, the requirements need to be met first. Let us get confirmation from the player and we agree to give you XYZ. If not, we don't agree.

It is semantics. Your argument about a word doesn't mean I meant something else. Clearly I've explained what I meant over and over from beginning to now so you are just being a blockhead.

- boonerbuck


No, it's actually law. Offer and agreement are two entirely different entities. Judging by your first paragraph/narrative flip, a law you don't fully understand.

Name an agreement made that doesn't hinge on meeting the requirements of an offer. Yet I'm playing semantics. Face it, I've flipped you. Not because I'm smart, but because you made a mistake and I keep proving it as such.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 6:55 PM ET
Holy (frank) Miller is going to get a late 1st plus at the deadline unless he's injured. It's not like his value fully plummets, and in some cases it might increase if the team acquiring him has an expiring contract or two.


I wouldn't let teams talk extension with him either necessarily, it might make a few teams pull their offers resulting in lower offers from the remaining teams.

There actually is a downside.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 6:58 PM ET
No, it's actually law. Offer and agreement are two entirely different entities. Judging by your first paragraph/narrative flip, a law you don't fully understand.

Name an agreement made that doesn't hinge on meeting the requirements of an offer. Yet I'm playing semantics. Face it, I've flipped you. Not because I'm smart, but because you made a mistake and I keep proving it as such.

- Load Management


Some look at it like this... "we agree if". I don't care about law. You turned it into a debate about a word. There is a discussion going on, people are explaining what they think and mean, and you are stuck on a word... and lying about what the person means to cover how silly and anal you are being.

I've explained what I meant from beginning to end over 3 pages. Go ahead and waive your dictionary around. There has been no narrative flip as I've proven. Keep focusing on semantics.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:58 PM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/defenceman-nikita-tryamkin-signs-two-year-extension-stay-khl/sn-amp/

Pretty sure no team is signing a player that is still under contract for next season, in the KHL

- Reubenkincade


Not suggesting he will sign while under contract to the KHL. Just couldn’t remember how long his new deal was. 2 years. He’ll be back for the 24/25 season.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 7:01 PM ET
Holy (frank) Miller is going to get a late 1st plus at the deadline unless he's injured. It's not like his value fully plummets, and in some cases it might increase if the team acquiring him has an expiring contract or two.


I wouldn't let teams talk extension with him either necessarily, it might make a few teams pull their offers resulting in lower offers from the remaining teams.

There actually is a downside.

- golfingsince


Got to imagine there is a big gap in return from last TDL to next TDL.... just saying. Two playoffs and a season and a 1/4 vs 1 playoffs and a 1/4 season.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 7:06 PM ET
Holy (frank) Miller is going to get a late 1st plus at the deadline unless he's injured. It's not like his value fully plummets, and in some cases it might increase if the team acquiring him has an expiring contract or two.


I wouldn't let teams talk extension with him either necessarily, it might make a few teams pull their offers resulting in lower offers from the remaining teams.

There actually is a downside.

- golfingsince


Yup, he becomes unmoveable and Canucks get nothing.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 7:07 PM ET
Not suggesting he will sign while under contract to the KHL. Just couldn’t remember how long his new deal was. 2 years. He’ll be back for the 24/25 season.
- 1970vintage


That was a article from 2021,maybe after next season?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 7:10 PM ET
Got to imagine there is a big gap in return from last TDL to next TDL.... just saying. Two playoffs and a season and a 1/4 vs 1 playoffs and a 1/4 season.
- boonerbuck


People, several who have screamed asset management/can't lose a player for nothing, are now stuck with Benning mentality,must get over-inflated price, because they are a Canuck.

Ffs
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 9 @ 7:10 PM ET
Yup, he becomes unmoveable and Canucks get nothing.
- Reubenkincade


He’s nothing more than a rental if you don’t allow teams to negotiate an extension. If you go into the season, or wait until the deadline, he is certainly a rental.

I don’t see any disadvantage to allowing his agent to explore a contract if you like the deal the team is offering.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 9 @ 7:12 PM ET
That was a article from 2021,maybe after next season?
- Reubenkincade


Lol, it seems like only yesterday Rick Dahliwal was whining about Benning not being able to get a deal done.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 9 @ 7:19 PM ET
Some look at it like this... "we agree if". I don't care about law. You turned it into a debate about a word. There is a discussion going on, people are explaining what they think and mean, and you are stuck on a word... and lying about what the person means to cover how silly and anal you are being.

I've explained what I meant from beginning to end over 3 pages. Go ahead and waive your dictionary around. There has been no narrative flip as I've proven. Keep focusing on semantics.

- boonerbuck


Load needs to go empty his diaper.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 7:21 PM ET
He’s nothing more than a rental if you don’t allow teams to negotiate an extension. If you go into the season, or wait until the deadline, he is certainly a rental.

I don’t see any disadvantage to allowing his agent to explore a contract if you like the deal the team is offering.

- 1970vintage


The only disadvantages are make belief ones.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 7:21 PM ET
Lol, it seems like only yesterday Rick Dahliwal was whining about Benning not being able to get a deal done.
- 1970vintage


Dhaliwal. Lol

I shouldn't laugh, he is a friend of VHG and sometimes comes up with some good info.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 7:23 PM ET
People, several who have screamed asset management/can't lose a player for nothing, are now stuck with Benning mentality,must get over-inflated price, because they are a Canuck.

Ffs

- Reubenkincade


It was predictable. People would have been losing their poop if TDL and draft passed and the Canuck's drafting position weakened instead of improved and an big asset they are not likely going to be able to sign is still here...
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 9 @ 7:24 PM ET
The only disadvantages are make belief ones.
- Reubenkincade

Yea
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 7:24 PM ET
Load needs to go empty his diaper.
- TurdFergeson



Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 7:26 PM ET
It was predictable. People would have been losing their poop if TDL and draft passed and the Canuck's drafting position weakened instead of improved and an big asset they are not likely going to be able to sign is still here...

- boonerbuck


At minimum, one of Boeser, Garland or Boeser should have been dealt at TDL and at least 1 more at draft.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 7:28 PM ET
Some look at it like this... "we agree if". I don't care about law. You turned it into a debate about a word. There is a discussion going on, people are explaining what they think and mean, and you are stuck on a word... and lying about what the person means to cover how silly and anal you are being.

I've explained what I meant from beginning to end over 3 pages. Go ahead and waive your dictionary around. There has been no narrative flip as I've proven. Keep focusing on semantics.

- boonerbuck


Lol. OK. This is about all I can take. You've flipped more than a line cook at McDonald's. Enjoy the knowledge that I just shared with you. Hopefully, once your ego fades, it enriches you for your next discussion. 😉

Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
Load needs to go empty his diaper.
- TurdFergeson


I did. All over Booner.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 7:32 PM ET
Dhaliwal. Lol

I shouldn't laugh, he is a friend of VHG and sometimes comes up with some good info.

- Reubenkincade


I always get the feeling that he's less legit and adds extreme exaggeration to what he's hearing... or turning speculation into smoke way too often.

He was called out by EF for some Canuck rumors just before RD got fired. Seems like even the rumor factory thinks he's a hack. I also think because of his reputation, agents reach out to him a lot more than others.... and not in a good way. He gets used.

I also wonder about how professional he is in other regards. He told a story once on SN how he got fired in Vegas after pulling an all night party and going on the air poop faced drunk "and other stuff". When asked about the other stuff his answer was " all I got to say about that is Vegas is an evil place"... Sounds like he was high as well... funny in some ways but still I question his professionalism about that and the way he goes about his rumor business.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 7:38 PM ET
Lol. OK. This is about all I can take. You've flipped more than a line cook at McDonald's. Enjoy the knowledge that I just shared with you. Hopefully, once your ego fades, it enriches you for your next discussion. 😉
- Load Management


Holy (frank) are you delusional! I reposted my conversation showing that regardless of us using a word differently, I stayed on track and what I think is clearly stated beginning to end.

I've said it dozens of times and prove it once again. "You can't help yourself"... that would require a 3 digit IQ.
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