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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Canucks snag sniper Jonathan Lekkerimaki with 15th pick, Miller not traded
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Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 7:55 PM ET
Holy (frank) are you delusional! I reposted my conversation showing that regardless of us using a word differently, I stayed on track and what I think is clearly stated beginning to end.

I've said it dozens of times and prove it once again. "You can't help yourself"... that would require a 3 digit IQ.

- boonerbuck


Once by my count, but I know you're still working on the counting thing, so that's OK. Keep trying though, you'll find concepts like language and it's importance in expressing clear concise thoughts will follow. Especially if you are willing to learn from your mistakes.

We'll get back to contract law and negotiation tactics once you've shown a certain grasp.....or maybe we won't.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:56 PM ET
Ya, I doubt any North American team would sign him, he was and still is grossly overvalued by this fanbase.
I hear Sweden is the country to go to if you want to become a good hockey player.

- Reubenkincade

I think he’ll have a NHL of he wants one, Det, Was, TB and Fla all make sense.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 8:01 PM ET
Once by my count, but I know you're still working on the counting thing, so that's OK. Keep trying though, you'll find concepts like language and it's importance in expressing clear concise thoughts will follow. Especially if you are willing to learn from your mistakes.

We'll get back to contract law and negotiation tactics once you've shown a certain grasp.....or maybe we won't.

- Load Management


Who gives a (frank) about Law. You don't see anyone interested in your law discussion do you? Everyone else stayed on topic.

Here's the
counting thing
for you. At least 8 people other than you got into the conversation and none of them are hung up on a word and going off the rails in another direction.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 9 @ 8:23 PM ET
I don't think ot will stink, it just won't be the 4 super assets that many seem to think will be the return.
If anyone thinks a top 10 pick a good young player, preferably a RHD and a top prospect, will be the return,then they are more than delusional,but also idiotic.

- Reubenkincade

👍🏻
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 9 @ 8:40 PM ET
Once by my count, but I know you're still working on the counting thing, so that's OK. Keep trying though, you'll find concepts like language and it's importance in expressing clear concise thoughts will follow. Especially if you are willing to learn from your mistakes.

We'll get back to contract law and negotiation tactics once you've shown a certain grasp.....or maybe we won't.

- Load Management


Lol. You should just stop. It’s really embarrassing.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
Different view of Zhou Guanyu crash from last weekend.



Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 8:50 PM ET
Once by my count, but I know you're still working on the counting thing, so that's OK. Keep trying though, you'll find concepts like language and it's importance in expressing clear concise thoughts will follow. Especially if you are willing to learn from your mistakes.

We'll get back to contract law and negotiation tactics once you've shown a certain grasp.....or maybe we won't.

- Load Management

I agree with your stance.
Good luck with the next 10 pages.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 8:55 PM ET
I agree with your stance.
Good luck with the next 10 pages.

- Marwood


You'd think you'd be supportive of them moving Miller by now rather than later. Current strategy is supporting Lordy's feeling that Miller would be here for the season opener. Best offers have passed more than likely.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 8:56 PM ET
Got to imagine there is a big gap in return from last TDL to next TDL.... just saying. Two playoffs and a season and a 1/4 vs 1 playoffs and a 1/4 season.
- boonerbuck

Maybe for some teams, for others the offer might increase if they're tight for cap.

Or, his play suffers a little and his extension cost less as a result.


In some ways allowing him to negotiate his next deal with interested teams does hand some control over to the player.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 9:03 PM ET
You'd think you'd be supportive of them moving Miller by now rather than later. Current strategy is supporting Lordy's feeling that Miller would be here for the season opener. Best offers have passed more than likely.

- boonerbuck


I don't think so.

Many here didn't want 2022 draft capital. Well now that the draft has passed that's much less possible unless one of the prospects is involved.

Free agency is days away and some teams aren't going to like how they look after it has passed, then teams won't like how they look by christmas, some by March.

There's a whole lot of time to trade him, unless the 2022 draft was your deadline which didn't make much sense unless you were banking on 2022 draft capital.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 9:04 PM ET
Maybe for some teams, for others the offer might increase if they're tight for cap.

Or, his play suffers a little and his extension cost less as a result.


In some ways allowing him to negotiate his next deal with interested teams does hand some control over to the player.

- golfingsince


If Miller wants to go to UFA, then you are damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 9 @ 9:05 PM ET
Ya, I don't see it as a undesirable destination. It's a tunnel/bridge away from NYC.
- boonerbuck

Kind of like Surrey to Vancouver? Rutland to Kelowna.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 9 @ 9:07 PM ET
At minimum, one of Boeser, Garland or Boeser should have been dealt at TDL and at least 1 more at draft.
- Reubenkincade

I’m glad this draft has passed. I would rather they be traded for picks in next year’s draft.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 9:08 PM ET
Maybe for some teams, for others the offer might increase if they're tight for cap.

Or, his play suffers a little and his extension cost less as a result.


In some ways allowing him to negotiate his next deal with interested teams does hand some control over to the player.

- golfingsince


They can also eat salary to bump up the value.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 9 @ 9:09 PM ET
I don't think so.

Many here didn't want 2022 draft capital. Well now that the draft has passed that's much less possible unless one of the prospects is involved.

Free agency is days away and some teams aren't going to like how they look after it has passed, then teams won't like how they look by christmas, some by March.

There's a whole lot of time to trade him, unless the 2022 draft was your deadline which didn't make much sense unless you were banking on 2022 draft capital.

- golfingsince


Christmas... March... well that's well after season start like I was saying in the post to marwood.. You are right about free agency... a team may not like how the market went and come calling. I still think you'll get less in return by then. Especially if they don't know if they can extend him until after the trade.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
If Miller wants to go to UFA, then you are damned if you do, damned if you don't.
- boonerbuck


I think he wants to cash in on his best season ever right now whereas all teams including the Canucks want to see him play some more.

Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 9 @ 9:17 PM ET
They can also eat salary to bump up the value.
- Load Management

Will the Canucks have the stones to deal him at the deadline if they are in a playoff position? I’d be impressed if they did.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 9:17 PM ET
Christmas... March... well that's well after season start like I was saying in the post to marwood.. You are right about free agency... a team may not like how the market went and come calling. I still think you'll get less in return by then. Especially if they don't know if they can extend him until after the trade.
- boonerbuck

I thought last trade deadline was ideal. It's unfortunate the team was climbing the standings and knocking on the door.

They can still extend him or trade him. There will be suitors.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
Will the Canucks have the stones to deal him at the deadline if they are in a playoff position? I’d be impressed if they did.
- Shuswap Wap

If they can't come to an agreement on an extension they have to.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 9 @ 9:35 PM ET
I don't think so.

Many here didn't want 2022 draft capital. Well now that the draft has passed that's much less possible unless one of the prospects is involved.

Free agency is days away and some teams aren't going to like how they look after it has passed, then teams won't like how they look by christmas, some by March.

There's a whole lot of time to trade him, unless the 2022 draft was your deadline which didn't make much sense unless you were banking on 2022 draft capital.

- golfingsince

Please don’t say draft capital. Please.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 9:49 PM ET
Please don’t say draft capital. Please.
- CanuckDon


Whatever, I wanted Lafreniere straight up. I think the young player is the key, but draft capital is part of the package. You might have to take on a not great contract to increase the return, something that expires soon.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:51 PM ET
Held for work in a different craft, released after 8 hours. Paid the entire trip I was supposed to go on. Off until Wednesday, thanks CN!
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 11:07 PM ET
Will the Canucks have the stones to deal him at the deadline if they are in a playoff position? I’d be impressed if they did.
- Shuswap Wap


I hope so. It's a steep climb up to the level that the elite teams are on.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 9 @ 11:11 PM ET
I hope so. It's a steep climb up to the level that the elite teams are on.
- Load Management

It's so much steeper than it is from bottom 5 to qualifying. The only difference is that a goalie can carry you so much further. It helps if they aren't playing 65+ games in the regular season.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jul 9 @ 11:17 PM ET
Vantel’s even laughing more now lol I know I am lol.
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