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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
Crippling this teams future to make some guys on Chippewa happy for five minutes isn't exactly economically prudent either.

If his price tag matched his current impact/age I'd be all for it. You start having serious conversations about the 2023 first and or peterka or something like that, you're no better than the Flyers.

- Michael Ghofrani


He'd sell tickets. That is a very prudent thing. Can't take too many more seasons averaging less than 10K a game.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
It’s all on Kane. He can say I’m not waiving to go anywhere except Buffalo and Chicago would either let him play out his contract and lose him for nothing or get whatever they can even if it’s low (see Hall, Taylor)

Chicago knows there’s only 2 teams that can take on that full contract, and even if they eat half of his salary they’re still having to take a cap dump back with him.

Chicago isn’t getting anywhere near market value for several reasons: contract, NMC, and teams have leverage over Chicago because of those previous two things.

- Stripes77


Id normally agree but this feels like an exceptional case given his pedigree. We'll see, Im still hopeful it doesn't happen. I don't need the Sabres tying up 20 million in two wingers who think defence is when you remove fences from your backyard.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
He'd sell tickets. That is a very prudent thing. Can't take too many more seasons averaging less than 10K a game.
- Wetbandit1



So would a semi competent team, no?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
It’s all on Kane. He can say I’m not waiving to go anywhere except Buffalo and Chicago would either let him play out his contract and lose him for nothing or get whatever they can even if it’s low (see Hall, Taylor)

Chicago knows there’s only 2 teams that can take on that full contract, and even if they eat half of his salary they’re still having to take a cap dump back with him.

Chicago isn’t getting anywhere near market value for several reasons: contract, NMC, and teams have leverage over Chicago because of those previous two things.

- Stripes77


They should insist Bjork be included, just for symmetry.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 9 @ 7:33 PM ET
So would a semi competent team, no?
- Michael Ghofrani


The team this year ain't that though.

Nobody's coming out to see 1C Thompson
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 9 @ 7:34 PM ET
The team this year ain't that though.
- Wetbandit1



It still very well could be. The NTC's are hurting the team, but being decisive on certain fringe players can help them facilitate trades that could have a big payoff.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 9 @ 7:39 PM ET
So you get Kane
How much we paying Malkin ?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
It still very well could be. The NTC's are hurting the team, but being decisive on certain fringe players can help them facilitate trades that could have a big payoff.
- Michael Ghofrani


You’d also have to think if Kane is a Sabre you can probably get a goalie to waive to come here.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 9 @ 7:41 PM ET
It still very well could be. The NTC's are hurting the team, but being decisive on certain fringe players can help them facilitate trades that could have a big payoff.
- Michael Ghofrani


What about what Adams has done has convinced you that that's possible? Matt (frank)ing Murray sucks, he's not a real goalie any more than Anderson is. Ben Bishop is the best goalie on the team right now, and he can't even play.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 7:54 PM ET
You’d also have to think if Kane is a Sabre you can probably get a goalie to waive to come here.
- Stripes77

So does Gibson change his mind
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 7:58 PM ET
Imagine getting Kane for Mitts Johnson 2nd, and then Gibson for 2 nds and 25% retained.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 9 @ 8:00 PM ET
What about what Adams has done has convinced you that that's possible? Matt (frank)ing Murray sucks, he's not a real goalie any more than Anderson is. Ben Bishop is the best goalie on the team right now, and he can't even play.
- Wetbandit1


Murray's post call up stretch was better than anything anderson did. Theyre clearly trying, hopefully something will break their way soon
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 8:01 PM ET
So you get Kane
How much we paying Malkin ?

- Anderdog

Hey Dog sorry I just checked my PM's
TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 8:05 PM ET
It’s all on Kane. He can say I’m not waiving to go anywhere except Buffalo and Chicago would either let him play out his contract and lose him for nothing or get whatever they can even if it’s low (see Hall, Taylor)

Chicago knows there’s only 2 teams that can take on that full contract, and even if they eat half of his salary they’re still having to take a cap dump back with him.

Chicago isn’t getting anywhere near market value for several reasons: contract, NMC, and teams have leverage over Chicago because of those previous two things.

- Stripes77
come on. Don't toy with me
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 9 @ 8:06 PM ET
What about what Adams has done has convinced you that that's possible? Matt (frank)ing Murray sucks, he's not a real goalie any more than Anderson is. Ben Bishop is the best goalie on the team right now, and he can't even play.
- Wetbandit1


They were also getting the 7th overall pick in the draft that just took place.

Let's not act like it was a trade for Matt Murray only.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 9 @ 8:29 PM ET
Imagine getting Kane for Mitts Johnson 2nd, and then Gibson for 2 nds and 25% retained.
- Buff36


I really don't want to come out of this nightmarish rebuild with Skinner, Kane, and Gibson on big deals for the next 5 years.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 8:38 PM ET
I really don't want to come out of this nightmarish rebuild with Skinner, Kane, and Gibson on big deals for the next 5 years.
- Lunaion

Doubt it happens but Gibson would only be about 4.5m a yr those years if they retained 25%. Like I said earlier, better be some kind of extension in place with Kane. If not basically Terry just wanting to sell some tickets.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 9 @ 8:42 PM ET
Doubt it happens but Gibson would only be about 4.5m a yr those years if they retained 25%. Like I said earlier, better be some kind of extension in place with Kane. If not basically Terry just wanting to sell some tickets.
- Buff36


So Kane will come if there is a goalie.
A goalie might come if there is Kane.

Who takes the leap first, Kane or a goalie?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 8:43 PM ET
So Kane will come if there is a goalie.
A goalie might come if there is Kane.

Who takes the leap first, Kane or a goalie?

- Gr8daygo

Maybe Adams has a 3 way with the Agents. Gotta take one for the team or 2!!😁😁😇
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 9 @ 8:46 PM ET
Maybe Adams has a 3 way with the Agents. Gotta take one for the team or 2!!😁😁😇
- Buff36



If they are willing to take 2nd rd picks and the prospects we have the least faith in sure. If not reach out next year and see how much he will want for 3 years
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
If they are willing to take 2nd rd picks and the prospects we have the least faith in sure. If not reach out next year and see how much he will want for 3 years
- Fattony1187

Really just kidding, but if this is all true. Easiest way to get this done would be to have all parties on a group chat, all parties now that one isn't bullsh!tting the other.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 9 @ 8:51 PM ET
If they are willing to take 2nd rd picks and the prospects we have the least faith in sure. If not reach out next year and see how much he will want for 3 years
- Fattony1187


Agree there. I’m not giving up to make it happen. Kane has em in a Hall position. Of course Uncle Terry could drop the hammer as he has done in the past.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 9 @ 8:59 PM ET
Hey Dog sorry I just checked my PM's
- Buff36



👌
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:08 PM ET
Rangers and the Preds called about Kane as well.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
Rangers and the Preds called about Kane as well.
- Stripes77

Yeah think the Rangers are waiting on Johnny and if he resigns, then Kane
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