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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:03 AM ET
You can't give a 30 year old second line center 9 million dollars a year for 7 years (as I am sure he will want). You especially don't do it as a team that is building.
- Slump Buster


Would a 3 year deal at $8M per change your perspective?
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
You can't give a 30 year old second line center 9 million dollars a year for 7 years (as I am sure he will want). You especially don't do it as a team that is building.
- Slump Buster

then you don't give him 7 years. Honestly he's probably more in the neighborhood of 7 mil but all this Patrick Kane talk has me talking crazy like my jaw broke
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
Would a 3 year deal at $8M per change your perspective?
- kingcong39


Absolutely. Why would he do that?
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
https://www.diebytheblade.com/2022/7/10/23202267/learn-more-about-the-buffalo-sabres-2022-nhl-draft-picks-hockey-matthew-savoie-noah-ostlund
- Buff36


Some of the 3rd and 4th round players look to be a hit (in 3-4 years).
Nice draft! I know nothing of these prospects or how they can grow, but great insight on this years draft. Hope Adams and their scouts have got a solid grasp on drafting, would make a huge difference moving forward (being able to hit on players past the 1st round).
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:05 AM ET
then you don't give him 7 years. Honestly he's probably more in the neighborhood of 7 mil but all this Patrick Kane talk has me talking crazy like my jaw broke
- chilliard77


Then you won't get him. This is his only chance to really get paid - why would he go back out to free agency at 33 or 34? If he didn't care about getting paid then he would stay with the Avalanche.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:06 AM ET
They will always be looking to add or upgrade but I think the vast majority of the roster is set right now. That's not a bad looking D at all.
- Slump Buster


The trio of Pilut, Bryson, and Fitzgerald needs help.

There will be injuries, and they need depth.

Especially quality depth, as you're relying heavily on very young players, 2 of which have very few NHL games at all.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:08 AM ET
Absolutely. Why would he do that?
- Slump Buster


It's by far the 2nd most predicted deal by Evolving Hockey, and the reason why is no team may want to give him a deal for 7 years.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:08 AM ET
Then you won't get him. This is his only chance to really get paid - why would he go back out to free agency at 33 or 34? If he didn't care about getting paid then he would stay with the Avalanche.
- Slump Buster

Cuz if you and I know 7 years is bad for his age then I'm sure the general managers know this as well
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:10 AM ET
40 mil 5 years max
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:12 AM ET
Cuz if you and I know 7 years is bad for his age then I'm sure the general managers know this as well
- chilliard77


You're kidding, right? Letang just got 6 years going into his age 36 season. Just go back and look at all of the awful contracts given out in free agency. These kind of contracts happen all of the time and the minute that they are signed everyone knows it isn't going to end well.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:14 AM ET
40 mil 5 years max
- chilliard77


That's probably a lot closer to being safe. The problem for us then becomes the last 2 or 3 years of that contract. We have 5 more years of Skinner but we need to start paying a lot of the kids during the back half of those 5 years. This isn't the NFL where you can make it a soft cap. The salaries have to slot and - like it or not - Adams knows that he doesn't want to take on big contracts for more than 2 years.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:15 AM ET
It's by far the 2nd most predicted deal by Evolving Hockey, and the reason why is no team may want to give him a deal for 7 years.
- kingcong39


Some team will - I would absolutely put money on that
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:15 AM ET
You're kidding, right? Letang just got 6 years going into his age 36 season. Just go back and look at all of the awful contracts given out in free agency. These kind of contracts happen all of the time and the minute that they are signed everyone knows it isn't going to end well.
- Slump Buster


I like Kadri a bit, especially playoff Kadri, but we have to pass.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
I like Kadri a bit, especially playoff Kadri, but we have to pass.
- Lilroot9


I think we are on the path that worked for so many other teams. You build through the draft and continue to look for hockey trades once you are well on your way. You look for trades like the one they made to get Kadri, and even though you give up an asset you get a guy that is already signed. Tampa made many similar moves.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 10 @ 10:20 AM ET
Is it weird to say that I will be amazed at the next deal. And I don't know if I mean that in a good way
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 10 @ 10:27 AM ET
I would seriously consider Nazem Kadri. Dudes a beast. Give him 9mil
- chilliard77


Nope. Don’t Kyle Okposo contract it. Also take into consideration that the top line / players took a lot of heat off him.

Think Derek Roy when we had Drury and briere

Once he became the man. He wasn’t great
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 10 @ 10:27 AM ET
Is it weird to say that I will be amazed at the next deal. And I don't know if I mean that in a good way
- Buff36


Kane or Gibson deal?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
Kane or Gibson deal?
- Sabretooth9

No, just really have No clue
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
You're kidding, right? Letang just got 6 years going into his age 36 season. Just go back and look at all of the awful contracts given out in free agency. These kind of contracts happen all of the time and the minute that they are signed everyone knows it isn't going to end well.
- Slump Buster



Honestly it’s great we aren’t ready right now. These horrible contracts will help those teams now (when we aren’t ready) and devastate them when we are contenders. Despite the people who think “only fans care about cap”
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:33 AM ET
Nope. Don’t Kyle Okposo contract it. Also take into consideration that the top line / players took a lot of heat off him.

Think Derek Roy when we had Drury and briere

Once he became the man. He wasn’t great

- Sabretooth9


Isn't the point of signing someone like Kadri, Trocheck, or Copp that they won't need to 'be the man' due to the depth the Sabres have?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:36 AM ET
I like Kadri a bit, especially playoff Kadri, but we have to pass.
- Lilroot9


I bet they already know Kadri isn't interested.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:36 AM ET
Is it weird to say that I will be amazed at the next deal. And I don't know if I mean that in a good way
- Buff36


It will either be something awesome or something gross is what you’re feeling.

I feel the same way.

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
Isn't the point of signing someone like Kadri, Trocheck, or Copp that they won't need to 'be the man' due to the depth the Sabres have?
- kingcong39


The Sabres don’t have “the man” now unless you’re assuming it’s Tage.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:39 AM ET
The Sabres don’t have “the man” now unless you’re assuming it’s Tage.
- Stripes77


Has Tuch ceased to exist?

How about the other quality forwards the Sabres have?

The point is they have depth now, which has not been the case in the past.

That means better support if any UFA's are brought in, both for the players already here and the ones brought in.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
The Sabres don’t have “the man” now unless you’re assuming it’s Tage.
- Stripes77


Tage. Tuch. Dahlin.



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