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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:36 PM ET
We don’t.

We hired an analytics department because guys like Danton Heinen and Nick Aube-Kubel are under the radar pick ups that could give us the depth needed to actually play some games in April. But hey, can’t block guys.

- sbroads24


WHAT?!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:36 PM ET
Apples and oranges. The vast majority of these guys won't be here for 3 or 4 years (or ever). Better yet, you can keep them down in Roch if they aren't better than what we have. You have a ton of options in that scenario. I agree with Adams stance on remaining flexible but I get why a lot of you feel different.
- Slump Buster

Like Jack Quinn or Peterka If the Sabres added a legit top 6 talent?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:37 PM ET
I think Adams has been anything but flexible
- homiedclown

Seriously what
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:37 PM ET
WHAT?!

- DirtyDan

Those guys replace black holes in Cody Eakin types.

Add in a top 6 forward and you have a legit forward core.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'd take that bet all day long. We won't be bottom 10 next year.
- Slump Buster

you can easily make a case that
skinner
tuch
tage
anderson

all take a step backwards this season
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
Yup, we agree on making the playoffs. But making it just to make it doesn't necessarily get you closer. Should be interesting to see if Pittsburgh gives Malkin the 4th year that he wants. Pitt and Washington should be aging out of contention nicely over the next few years.

Either way I don't think we ever had a shot at the guys that you like because they are going to be signed before free agency. I wouldn't mind KA making a hockey trade in the mold of Drury/Briere.

- Slump Buster


Exhibit A: Montreal Canadiens
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
you can easily make a case that
skinner
tuch
tage
anderson

all take a step backwards this season

- homiedclown


Yeah so why blow our wads to play an extra 5 games ?
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jul 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
Yup, we agree on making the playoffs. But making it just to make it doesn't necessarily get you closer. Should be interesting to see if Pittsburgh gives Malkin the 4th year that he wants. Pitt and Washington should be aging out of contention nicely over the next few years.

Either way I don't think we ever had a shot at the guys that you like because they are going to be signed before free agency. I wouldn't mind KA making a hockey trade in the mold of Drury/Briere.

- Slump Buster


I think being a playoff team more often then not absolutely gets you closer. Free agents don't want to go to a shatty team that never makes the playoffs. They want to go somewhere where they have the chance to win the cup every year.

The Bills are a perfect example. no Playoffs for years shatty FA (minus a few) Now Playoff/Super contenders, VON Miller and a crap ton of others that would LOVE to play for them.

Same would be true for the Sabres... Gotta get in the tourny before you can win the cup... I am at the mode of JUST GET ME IN


Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
🚨🚨🚨🚨👀👀🚨🚨🚨🚨


- Hank Balling


Let the watch begin!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
I think being a playoff team more often then not absolutely gets you closer. Free agents don't want to go to a shatty team that never makes the playoffs. They want to go somewhere where they have the chance to win the cup every year.

The Bills are a perfect example. no Playoffs for years shatty FA (minus a few) Now Playoff/Super contenders, VON Miller and a crap ton of others that would LOVE to play for them.

Same would be true for the Sabres... Gotta get in the tourny before you can win the cup... I am at the mode of JUST GET ME IN

- hehateme

Freaking this.

Imagine if the Bills didn’t change their identity before getting guys like Diggs, Miller etc

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
Those guys replace black holes in Cody Eakin types.

Add in a top 6 forward and you have a legit forward core.

- sbroads24


JJ and Quinn can be those guys... Only better.... Why are we not letting them play in the NHL?

What else do they have to do in the A?


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
Yeah so why blow our wads to play an extra 5 games ?
- Pegullaville

with all these prospects, picks and young players


this is not the offseason to play chicken little

average nhl gm tenure is 3.5 years
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
We don’t.

We hired an analytics department because guys like Danton Heinen and Nick Aube-Kubel are under the radar pick ups that could give us the depth needed to actually play some games in April. But hey, can’t block guys.

- sbroads24


The "don't block guys" comment is attributed to taking on big contracts. If we can find guys that aren't that, go for it.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 11 @ 4:42 PM ET
Freaking this.

Imagine if the Bills didn’t change their identity before getting guys like Diggs, Miller etc

- sbroads24


Bills act like a big market team. Sabres are a small market team.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
Bills act like a big market team. Sabres are a small market team.
- Lunaion


BBE

Big Beane energy
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
I think being a playoff team more often then not absolutely gets you closer. Free agents don't want to go to a shatty team that never makes the playoffs. They want to go somewhere where they have the chance to win the cup every year.

The Bills are a perfect example. no Playoffs for years shatty FA (minus a few) Now Playoff/Super contenders, VON Miller and a crap ton of others that would LOVE to play for them.

Same would be true for the Sabres... Gotta get in the tourny before you can win the cup... I am at the mode of JUST GET ME IN

- hehateme


We didn't start adding until all of the pieces were in place. We added some small pieces along the way but no big contracts.

Diggs was a football trade.

Once the window opened we got Von Miller. That's when you make your move.

Patience. Nobody was saying "just get in". The Bills process was to draft and develop.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 4:46 PM ET
We didn't start adding until all of the pieces were in place. We added some small pieces along the way but no big contracts.

Diggs was a football trade.

Once the window opened we got Von Miller. That's when you make your move.

Patience. Nobody was saying "just get in". The Bills process was to draft and develop.

- Slump Buster

Maybe the Sabres should try a "Hockey Trade" it might just make them better.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:46 PM ET
We didn't start adding until all of the pieces were in place. We added some small pieces along the way but no big contracts.

Diggs was a football trade.

Once the window opened we got Von Miller. That's when you make your move.

Patience. Nobody was saying "just get in". The Bills process was to draft and develop.

- Slump Buster


As someone who spent years 9 through 27 of his life watching the Bills screw around in purgatory, I was screaming "just get in"
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:47 PM ET
We didn't start adding until all of the pieces were in place. We added some small pieces along the way but no big contracts.

Diggs was a football trade.

Once the window opened we got Von Miller. That's when you make your move.

Patience. Nobody was saying "just get in". The Bills process was to draft and develop.

- Slump Buster

But they did. And everything changed from that time until now

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:47 PM ET
Maybe the Sabres should try a "Hockey Trade" it might just make them better.
- Buff36


Our Allen is signed for only 2 more years.

I would really like our core set before adding a 9 million dollar contract from an outside source
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:47 PM ET
Maybe the Sabres should try a "Hockey Trade" it might just make them better.
- Buff36

This
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jul 11 @ 4:47 PM ET
Bills act like a big market team (the last 4-5years). Sabres are a small market team.
- Lunaion

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:47 PM ET
Freaking this.

Imagine if the Bills didn’t change their identity before getting guys like Diggs, Miller etc

- sbroads24


The Bills had to go bargain hunting first a WR (Bease and Brown) and had to overpay on both before making a trade for Diggs.

They added Miller when they're knocking on the doorstep of a Championship, they also have one of the best QBs if not the best in the league.

The Sabres are finally starting to right the ship, but unlike the NFL you can't get out of bad contracts in the NHL so they have to be careful

Apples and oranges


Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 11 @ 4:48 PM ET
Freaking this.

Imagine if the Bills didn’t change their identity before getting guys like Diggs, Miller etc

- sbroads24


The bills did their damage through the draft.

Used free agency and trades to give them the final pieces.

Is that not what the Sabres are doing ? They just don’t have the luxury of having 5 rookies play for them year one like in the NFL
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:48 PM ET
But they did. And everything changed from that time until now
- sbroads24


It took a miracle Andy Dalton pass and the Bills benched their starting QB for Nate Petermann

Of course they tore it down the following season...
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