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Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 12 @ 10:23 AM ET
What is an acceptable addition to JVR? At minimum?
- TheSabresTaco



To Philly:

2023 Flyers 2nd (Risto trade)
Bjork

To Buff:

JVR
Florida Panthers 2024 1st
2023 Rangers 3rd
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 10:24 AM ET
What is an acceptable addition to JVR? At minimum?
- TheSabresTaco


JVR, Ellis, their first (top 10 protected) for future considerations. Yes No?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:24 AM ET
To Philly:

2023 Flyers 2nd (Risto trade)
Bjork

To Buff:

JVR
Florida Panthers 2024 1st
2023 Rangers 3rd

- Hank Balling


Yeah fine stamp it.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 10:25 AM ET
This is an analytical analysis. So if that's an opinion, I guess you're right.

You are willing to put a defensive disaster on a shut down line?

- TheSabresTaco



Put him with Asplund and tell him he only has to work 10% of the defensive zone area, sign OG Larry and don't worry about it.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 12 @ 10:26 AM ET
To Philly:

2023 Flyers 2nd (Risto trade)
Bjork

To Buff:

JVR
Florida Panthers 2024 1st
2023 Rangers 3rd

- Hank Balling


I don't think that is enough. They would be essentially doing what Toronto just did to move a contract - trade a first for a second. That could only be a handful of spots given that it is Florida's first and the Flyers second.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:26 AM ET
JVR, Ellis, their first (top 10 protected) for future considerations. Yes No?
- SDSabre


Swap Ellis with Sanheim and their first for Florida and we can all bro-five.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:28 AM ET
Wonder if he had to get the Sabres "blessing" of some sort. I mean he is on LTIR, basically retired. If he got a job in any other profession wouldn't matter. Just spitballing.
- SDSabre

I agree if he decided to be a consultant for an NFL team, totally different

hell if he wanted to be a consultant for team usa it's fine


as long as we are paying his NHL salary for 2022-23 season, he should have to wait IMO until the 2022-23 season ends to work for any of the other 31 NHL teams

SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 10:28 AM ET
Swap Ellis with Sanheim and their first for Florida and we can all bro-five.
- TheSabresTaco



Fun fact, he's got a twin brother who's playing in what I can tell is the NOSHO.

Also, can he play RHD.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:28 AM ET
Put him with Asplund and tell him he only has to work 10% of the defensive zone area, sign OG Larry and don't worry about it.
- SDSabre


You're tying one arm behind that line's back. If you're going to play him, get him on the third line with Mitts and Asplund. Go score against weak competition. Get their top 10 1st and revel in the fact they'll still be a high lottery pick in 2024.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
This is an opinion. I'm not falling for opinion arguments.

Last time. JVR isn't on a good contract. He's not a terrible NHL player. You just aren't when you are constantly scoring at that clip. He's not well rounded, he's not worth his contract. 3.5M sure. I think he'd have value to a contender at that hit.

BTW, actual cash. 4M on a 7M hit. Fits in nicely on the fourth line already.

- SDSabre


Wonder what they would give us to take him on?

SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
I agree if he decided to be a consultant for an NFL team, totally different

hell if he wanted to be a consultant for team usa it's fine


as long as we are paying his NHL salary for 2022-23 season, he should have to wait IMO until the 2022-23 season ends to work for any of the other 31 NHL teams

- homiedclown



That's why I wonder if he had to get Buffalo to sign off first. Which they might have.

Edit: He had a no trade clause. We could have been on it and he could have said no even in a paper transaction. To get him to waive it might have been a stipulation.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
Wonder what they would give us to take him on?
- Stripes77
risto
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jul 12 @ 10:30 AM ET
JVR... lol

It's such a low brow move you know it's going to happen. Who is he blocking? It's way more embarrassing to be blocked by JVR than a FA signing.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:30 AM ET
risto
- homiedclown

Hey.................... Navin said to keep you pie hole shut or else.



Oh MY
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:31 AM ET
The leafs 'needed' murray and ottawa still took a chunk and gave them a decent pick and a 7.

nobody needs jvr. it needs to be more, especially if we're willing to take all 7.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:31 AM ET
That's why I wonder if he had to get Buffalo to sign off first. Which they might have.
- SDSabre

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:32 AM ET
Hey.................... Navin said to keep you pie hole shut or else.



Oh MY

- SABRES 89

navin can piss off
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:32 AM ET
JVR... lol

It's such a low brow move you know it's going to happen. Who is he blocking? It's way more embarrassing to be blocked by JVR than a FA signing.

- lacaprup


Yeah I'd be getting my panties in a bunch if JVR gets to get his dumb ass on the ice and make JJP play in Rochester because of it.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:33 AM ET
navin can piss off
- homiedclown

He won't like your attitude.
The_Inkwell
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 12 @ 10:35 AM ET
Does JVR have a NMC?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
JVR... lol

It's such a low brow move you know it's going to happen. Who is he blocking? It's way more embarrassing to be blocked by JVR than a FA signing.

- lacaprup


It all depends on what the return is, Philly is making this move to make room for Johnny Hockey, they are in it big time on him but he is going to make A LOT of money

If you're getting JVR and say Florida's 1st round in 2024 you do it

You'll end up flipping him at the deadline for at least a 2nd and a prospect to a contender.

Taking on JVR could net you a 1st, 2nd and a prospect

or

JVR and Provorov perhaps? Too bad he is a LHD and not a RHD.

Who knows, JVR only has a year left

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
Does JVR have a NMC?
- The_Inkwell


he has no protection from Buffalo, Arizona and Anaheim.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
Does JVR have a NMC?
- The_Inkwell


Nope
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 12 @ 10:38 AM ET
Their first.... (Obvious pipedream) That team is a disaster. If I was them I would just suck it up with JVR one more year. Why sell now.
- SDSabre


They want Johnny hockey
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 12 @ 10:39 AM ET
I don't think that is enough. They would be essentially doing what Toronto just did to move a contract - trade a first for a second. That could only be a handful of spots given that it is Florida's first and the Flyers second.
- Slump Buster


Maybe they'd give the Florida pick straight up if they're thirsty enough for Gaudreau. Think you'd have to make that move if you're KA.

Might even be able to flip him for another asset with half retained
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