I think pickles are absolutely disgusting, but TJ's does have the Elote Corn chips with are superior to Fritos in every way.
- j.boyd919

How can you hate pickles???

I haven’t seen those chips before, but if I do I’m grabbing them.

How can you hate pickles???

I haven’t seen those chips before, but if I do I’m grabbing them.
- Rinosaur

I dunno, I've hated pickles since I was a kid. Just something I never grew to like.

Smart business says you qualify them. That way at the least they’re an asset you can trade. The QOs are small and neither poses much risk in arbitration.
- Feds91Stammer

In this case I think they are both arbitration risks. Their qualifying values are very low so they will both definitely push for arbitration if they don't get a full contract. If the Pens are looking to spend to the cap it makes it hard to be aggressive with the uncertainty of an arbitrators decision out there. I could easily see both of them getting $3M in arbitration which is above where I would want to have at least Kapanen signed.

I dunno, I've hated pickles since I was a kid. Just something I never grew to like.


- j.boyd919

I will have look next time.

In this case I think they are both arbitration risks. Their qualifying values are very low so they will both definitely push for arbitration if they don't get a full contract. If the Pens are looking to spend to the cap it makes it hard to be aggressive with the uncertainty of an arbitrators decision out there. I could easily see both of them getting $3M in arbitration which is above where I would want to have at least Kapanen signed.
- MacPatty

Well with Geno leaving there’s plenty of cap for them.

Seriously? Didnt realize he fell off.
- sammy87

His hip is done. He's going to have some surgery done soon, but a lot of athletes don't come back from it.

Can someone provide the cliff notes from Yohe’s article. I’m cheap and so are most of yins.

Can someone provide the cliff notes from Yohe’s article. I’m cheap and so are most of yins.
- Brownsoldier

Malkin wants 4 years, Hextall wants 3.

Said they were comfortable taking Letang to 6 years because his ask price dropped significantly and his training/taking care of himself is top notch.

Smart business says you qualify them. That way at the least they’re an asset you can trade. The QOs are small and neither poses much risk in arbitration.
- Feds91Stammer

Unless Hex received some calls and knows a GM or two overvalue Kap I just don’t think the risk of having to waist cap space on him is worth the QO for MAYBE getting a second half of the draft round pick.

Can someone provide the cliff notes from Yohe’s article. I’m cheap and so are most of yins.
- Brownsoldier

Same situation. Hex wants 3 and won't budge, Malkin wants 4 and won't budge, but they agree on $6M.

-Heinen will be qualified, but they are apart on numbers. Heinen wants long-term, but the Pens would like a shorter contract to see if this season was a fluke. Heinen wants in the $3M range and the Pens don't want to pay that.

-They're 50/50 on Kap

-If the Pens can't free up space, Rakell will hit the market, but apparently there are some trade offers on the table to free up space.

• The Penguins have a number of trade offers on the table right now in their pursuit of salary cap relief.

Hextall said this on Friday. The Penguins would love to dump some salary before the season, and preferably before the beginning of unrestricted free agency on Wednesday.

This would allow the Penguins to retain Rickard Rakell or make a significant signing in what the organization believes to be a very good free agency class.

• The Penguins gave up a lot to get Rakell and would like to keep him.

However, Rakell will be in demand on the open market. The Penguins have two days to get him signed. Progress can happen instantaneously, but at the moment, it appears likely that Rakell will hit the open market.

This seems contradictory to me. The Pens have a number of offers on the table to free up space, but he's also saying it appears likely Rakell will hit the market. My only assumption is those offers are not ones that Hextall wants to do.

EDIT: I actually asked him in the comments about this and he said he had it worded wrong. Hextall has offers sent out to other GMs, not the other way around.

Unless Hex received some calls and knows a GM or two overvalue Kap I just don’t think the risk of having to waist cap space on him is worth the QO for MAYBE getting a second half of the draft round pick.
- Victoro311

His rights should be fairly easy to trade. Letting him walk for nothing is just a waste of an asset. And this has nothing to do with some sort of sunk cost fallacy.

Unless Hex received some calls and knows a GM or two overvalue Kap I just don’t think the risk of having to waist cap space on him is worth the QO for MAYBE getting a second half of the draft round pick.
- Victoro311

CHI is letting Kubalik and Strome walk instead of trading their rights. Strome is a good player and Kubalik is sort of in the Kapanen situation, but CHI is letting them walk. I'm wondering if teams are just not wanting to give up anything for RFA rights on players of the level.

Personally, I think you let him walk. I most definitely do not want him in a Pens sweater.

LeBrun just tweeted that there’s been progress on the Malkin front over the past 24 hours but still a tough one to call.

LeBrun just tweeted that there’s been progress on the Malkin front over the past 24 hours but still a tough one to call.
- Victoro311

I guess in some ways this tells us who's more dialed in when it comes to Yohe and LeBrun. Yohe, as stated earlier, has said they're basically in the same spot. $6M agree, but apart on term.

It sounds like ownership wants this done, so I have to think they pressure Hextall.

Heinen not getting a QO lol

Looks like Kap is getting a QO and Heinen is not.

https://pittsburghhockeyn...danton-heinen-free-agent/

Looks like Kap is getting a QO and Heinen is not.

https://pittsburghhockeyn...danton-heinen-free-agent/
- j.boyd919

I think I'm over Hextall.

I guess in some ways this tells us who's more dialed in when it comes to Yohe and LeBrun. Yohe, as stated earlier, has said they're basically in the same spot. $6M agree, but apart on term.

It sounds like ownership wants this done, so I have to think they pressure Hextall.
- Rinosaur

I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive reports. They can agree on AAV and still be far apart on the term if Hextall is that deadset on his number of years. Idk seems this regime keeps a much tighter lid on negotiations (not a bad thing) so I’m not sure anyone has great visibility on where things are right now.

I guess in some ways this tells us who's more dialed in when it comes to Yohe and LeBrun. Yohe, as stated earlier, has said they're basically in the same spot. $6M agree, but apart on term.

It sounds like ownership wants this done, so I have to think they pressure Hextall.
- Rinosaur

I think Geno wants to earn 24 million over the rest of his career, and the Penguins want to pay him 18. The years don't matter since 4 years from now the team, and likely Geno will be a shell of itself

Give him 6 years and 24 mililon and let him retire after the 3rd or 4th season. Sweet 4 Millionish cap hit

I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive reports. They can agree on AAV and still be far apart on the term if Hextall is that deadset on his number of years. Idk seems this regime keeps a much tighter lid on negotiations (not a bad thing) so I’m not sure anyone has great visibility on where things are right now.
- Victoro311

Yeah, I've wondered the same thing.

Looks like Kap is getting a QO and Heinen is not.

https://pittsburghhockeyn...danton-heinen-free-agent/
- j.boyd919

...and with this news the first shred of actual evidence that my feeling that Hex wants to keep the players a lot of us want to rid of and just assume he does too, is real..ugh

I think Geno wants to earn 24 million over the rest of his career, and the Penguins want to pay him 18. The years don't matter since 4 years from now the team, and likely Geno will be a shell of itself

Give him 6 years and 24 mililon and let him retire after the 3rd or 4th season. Sweet 4 Millionish cap hit
- TheGame316

If it's coming down to one stinking year, then Hextall should be removed from his position. Hextall and JR couldn't be more opposite in how they do business. JR clearly screwed over Hornqvist, but overall he seemed to have a deep respect for his players and this deal likely gets done if he's still here. Hextall is definitely more business-like in the way he operates, which isn't a bad thing, but he needs to be a little more in touch.

Looks like Kap is getting a QO and Heinen is not.

https://pittsburghhockeyn...danton-heinen-free-agent/
- j.boyd919

The QO just gets you his rights. If they've talked to Heinens camp and the ask is such that a deal isn't going to be made, it's better to let him walk then risk getting stuck with an arbitration decisions thats too high for the budget, but below the minimum that you're allowed to walk away from (anything less than 4 you're stuck with him)

They did this with Kennedy and ERod a few years back and once the market spoke, they were able to resign the player for a more reasonable amount

If it's coming down to one stinking year, then Hextall should be removed from his position. Hextall and JR couldn't be more opposite in how they do business. JR clearly screwed over Hornqvist, but overall he seemed to have a deep respect for his players and this deal likely gets done if he's still here. Hextall is definitely more business-like in the way he operates, which isn't a bad thing, but he needs to be a little more in touch.
- Rinosaur

I don't mind Hex playing hardball if the deal gets done in the end

I think he played hardball with Letang and we got him on a deal that makes a lot of sense for us long term

Lot of people here were antsy that it wasn't getting done and couldn't wait to give him 4-5 years at 8-9 million per. In some ways, I think Hex called Letangs bluff and got the deal he wanted