Not that it means much, and I know he's not the GM, but I think Burkie drafted Kadri for the Leafs...probably really likes and wants him for the Pens...
- MattStrat

I think Kadri is the type of player they have been missing. He is going to get overpaid though and I am a bit concerned with him coming off a major thumb injury that he went back early and played after. Also, he is always one bad play away from being suspended for a chunk of the playoffs.

Kadri would be great but I think I would prefer Trochek as he will be cheaper, is a bit younger but still plays that gritty type of game.

Yeah, my impression was Kessel was the odd man out and Geno was a part of that.

I actually do think that Kessel could make a return. Zucker-Carter-Kessel could be a pretty damn good 3rd line.
- MacPatty

I am hoping for a bunch of younger players in the bottom 6. Including players who should have been RFAs, but didn't get qualified.

I think Kadri is the type of player they have been missing. He is going to get overpaid though and I am a bit concerned with him coming off a major thumb injury that he went back early and played after. Also, he is always one bad play away from being suspended for a chunk of the playoffs.

Kadri would be great but I think I would prefer Trochek as he will be cheaper, is a bit younger but still plays that gritty type of game.
- MacPatty

They’ve been missing a 50 point player with the history of playoff suspensions?

Unless we are boycotting Russia, I don't know why we would look to move DeSmith and sign Samsonov to compete with Jarry. I think the Caps are giving up on him a bit early.

He is still only 25 and Jarry didn't really get it together until he was 25. Id love to sign Samsonov at about $3M and trade off DeSmith, I'm sure we could find a taker.

I hate our current net situation and think it is a huge mistake not having someone who can put some pressure on Jarry.

Unless we are boycotting Russia, I don't know why we would look to move DeSmith and sign Samsonov to compete with Jarry. I think the Caps are giving up on him a bit early.

He is still only 25 and Jarry didn't really get it together until he was 25. Id love to sign Samsonov at about $3M and trade off DeSmith, I'm sure we could find a taker.

I hate our current net situation and think it is a huge mistake not having someone who can put some pressure on Jarry.
- MacPatty

You cant trade a guy you just signed. Not sure if there is a formal rule, but no team would do it.

They’ve been missing a 50 point player with the history of playoff suspensions?
- Feds91Stammer

Over the last two seasons both Kadri and Malkin have been scoring at about 1PPG.

Malkin gets 42% of his points on the PP and Kadri gets 32% of his on the PP.

At even strength Malkin puts up .2 goals per game and Kadri puts up .22 goals per game.

Kadri is better defensively and can play the PK. Kadri can play physical hockey without completely falling apart. I would say that Kadri getting suspended washed out with Malkin completely taking himself out of games in the playoffs when teams play physical against him.

If we are trying to win over the next 3 years, I'd take Kadri over Malkin.

This seems like a plausible middle ground between the two camps of reporting. Malkin wanted a higher total contract value, whether it was an extra year or a higher cap hit. Hex/Burke didn’t want to budge off of 3x6 and maybe started negotiations later than they should have. When things stalled the FO started considering the extra year but Geno had had it. In the FO’s mind the four years were on the table because they were starting to consider it, in Geno’s mind the negotiations were already over so the four years weren’t offered in good faith. Makes sense how two camps of reporting would pop up if this is what happened.
- Victoro311

Agreed that’s why I sent it. Two extremes going on, usually falls somewhere in the middle which is this.

So is EK officially a tabloid now? Saying the Pens would bring Kessel back in order to get Geno back? lol

You cant trade a guy you just signed. Not sure if there is a formal rule, but no team would do it.
- SuperHenderson13

Well first off, sign and trades happen all of the time so you definitely CAN do it. I think Casey DeSmith is likely just happy to be in the NHL and is likely overpaid vs what he would have received on the open market coming off surgery again.

It's not like they signed him to a long term contract and I am sure that if they were going to consider trading him that they would have discussed that as something that could happen when negotiating the contract.

Didn’t Rantanen play with Kadri? I’m just not a fan of possibly signing A 32 year old Kadri to a 6 year deal when he’s coming off a crazy statistical season. He was never close to being a ppg player until last season. At least with Malkin you know what to expect, even with 3rd/4th line wingers.
- drummer829

I don't think Kadri is a PPG player with terrible wingers and I don't think he is going to get one of those $9M deals that are rumored for guys like Gaudreau. But while Kadri had his best statistical, so did Rantanen. So its not as though Rantanen carried him, they meshed and played well together.

Some sources are back tracking and saying there is a possibility Malkin resigns. He is going to test the market first.

I don't think anyone knows what is going on with the situation.
- 123Kid

They can't wait around 'til Malkin explores the market. At some point Hextall has to say: "This is our best offer. If you don't take it, we'll likely sign someone else quickly".

By the sounds of it, he's gone. I think Hextall botched negotiations right from the start when he publicly stated his priorities. Malkin shouldn't be made to feel like he's an afterthought.

Kind of feels like Hexy salted the field intentionally.

I don't think Kadri is a PPG player with terrible wingers and I don't think he is going to get one of those $9M deals that are rumored for guys like Gaudreau. But while Kadri had his best statistical, so did Rantanen. So its not as though Rantanen carried him, they meshed and played well together.
- MacPatty

Rantanen has been a PPG player most of his career so far. He's been an awesome pick. Kadri has had some solid years but nothing like this past one. I think he gets 7-8 somewhere. A solid 2C is what the Avs were missing. I think they will try to keep him.

They can't wait around 'til Malkin explores the market. At some point Hextall has to say: "This is our best offer. If you don't take it, we'll likely sign someone else quickly".

By the sounds of it, he's gone. I think Hextall botched negotiations right from the start when he publicly stated his priorities. Malkin shouldn't be made to feel like he's an afterthought.

Kind of feels like Hexy salted the field intentionally.
- madmike71

Oh he's definitely gone. I don't think Hextall ever had it in the plan in his head to keep Geno.

They can't wait around 'til Malkin explores the market. At some point Hextall has to say: "This is our best offer. If you don't take it, we'll likely sign someone else quickly".

By the sounds of it, he's gone. I think Hextall botched negotiations right from the start when he publicly stated his priorities. Malkin shouldn't be made to feel like he's an afterthought.

Kind of feels like Hexy salted the field intentionally.
- madmike71

Thats assuming how everything went down. We dont know how long negations were going on. Perhaps hex got frustrated with malkins team and said f it were focusing on Letang and made it known his demands were not in reality? We just dont know all anyone can do is make assumptions and go with the narrative coming from ppl like Rossi. Rossi probs has the most to lose if Malkin leaves. He wont have a local fanboy to write about.

Not sure if anyone discussed this, but Seravalli is saying Marino is likely on his way out since nobody will take Pettersson's contract.

Oh he's definitely gone. I don't think Hextall ever had it in the plan in his head to keep Geno.
- j.boyd919

That's the way it looks to me.

Not sure if anyone discussed this, but Seravalli is saying Marino is likely on his way out since nobody will take Pettersson's contract.
- Rinosaur

I’ve seen him on his trade bait list for a few weeks. Hard to believe he’ll be the one gone but it was also hard to believe we’d be at this point with Malkin so who the F knows

They can't wait around 'til Malkin explores the market. At some point Hextall has to say: "This is our best offer. If you don't take it, we'll likely sign someone else quickly".

By the sounds of it, he's gone. I think Hextall botched negotiations right from the start when he publicly stated his priorities. Malkin shouldn't be made to feel like he's an afterthought.

Kind of feels like Hexy salted the field intentionally.
- madmike71

The thing is that the team has cap space to sign a UFA while waiting for Geno. I find it hard to believe the pens can’t make a cap dump somewhere with Dumo, Pettersson, or even Marino. Especially when FA slows down and teams strike out. Pens won’t get what they want, but dropping a contract like Dumo for next to nothing in order to sign someone like Trocheck is a win IMO.

Not sure if anyone discussed this, but Seravalli is saying Marino is likely on his way out since nobody will take Pettersson's contract.
- Rinosaur

That makes no sense. Why trade a 2nd pairing RHD which we would have to bring in a replacement for compared to trading a LHD which we have POJ to take their place...

That makes no sense. Why trade a 2nd pairing RHD which we would have to bring in a replacement for compared to trading a LHD which we have POJ to take their place...
- 123Kid

He says there isn’t interest in Petterson around the league so b/c of that Marino could go

Oh he's definitely gone. I don't think Hextall ever had it in the plan in his head to keep Geno.
- j.boyd919

100% agree with this. I still have a gut feeling Giroux is Hextall's target.

100% agree with this. I still have a gut feeling Giroux is Hextall's target.
- 123Kid

His plan is 7 years for Kadri or 6 for Giroux.

He says there isn’t interest in Petterson around the league so b/c of that Marino could go
- kfinl170

...which is another shred of evidence that ridding of Dumo isnt something Hex wants to do at all, like most of us want and think is for the best....

He says there isn’t interest in Petterson around the league so b/c of that Marino could go
- kfinl170

So we would replace him with who? Plus tbh we still have 10 million in cap space with a 2nd line center and a 3rd line RW to sign (which is Kapanen). We don't necessarily need another 4 million unless they move someone like Zucker (or buy him out) which would save cap space. That seems like a bad rumor to me unless we were trading Marino for a 2nd line center. Then we would still need 2 pieces for the roster.

...which is another shred of evidence that ridding of Dumo isnt something Hex wants to do at all, like most of us want and think is for the best....
- MattStrat

Possibly doesn’t want 2 offensive minded dmen on the 1st pairing. You know no one is touching Matheson. Pairings could be dumo-letang, Pettersson-Matheson.