Don’t see Nelson getting traded even for Tank.
One step forward 2 steps back imho.
- nyisles7

You gotta move out salary to bring in Kadri. Not sure Tito or Bailey move the needle much. That would leave Nelly, Wally, or Bellows. Palms isn't moving, he's got an NTC. Who else could you move?
I could be dead wrong of course, what the hell do I know.

I think the Caps lateral move the past 3 years and predicted to not go up much in the next 3 has actually put a stall on the salaries.
He could want 12 million IGM but the economics of the league and teams will dictate where the salaries are. Just looking at what JG and MT signed for is less than people thought these two 100 point players would get.
Of course just my opinion.
- nyisles7

Maybe, but guys want raises and this will be his last big contract. We'll see how it all plays out.

Yeah, I would think you'd want Barzy, Kadri , JGP & Zeeker down the middle. Unless Nelly gets traded, move him to the wing.
- Isleshockeyman

Agreed. Build from the pipes out up through Center. Nelly or Barzal could play the wing no problem. As JS said it would give Barzal less responsibility in the defensive zone and could be a bit more creative on the offensive side.
The Team could actually make breakout plays that key off his skating and offensive ability to have him release for some stretch passes that send him on his way. Versus him battling behind the net and the slot in the defensive zone. On FO’s Lee and Bailey take some key draws on their strong side now because he isnt a beast in the circle.isn’t that

I doubt very much either JGP or Nelson will be moved but it is an interesting thought. We would be recovering assets in the process while making room literally and figuratively in a salary sense. The problem is as you stated does replacing Nelson or JGP with Kadri make us a better team? Also, we still have the issue at the wing while shifting centers around. Problem not solved. It’s never going to happen but it’s something to talk about while lameriello has the iron curtain dropped…
- Cptmjl

True.

And for the sake of that argument:

Lee-Barzal-Palmieri
Nelson-Kadri-Wahlstrom

Would be an interesting top 6.

Though I’d be pissed if this were brought to pass with a Kadri contract any longer than 4 years.

You gotta move out salary to bring in Kadri. Not sure Tito or Bailey move the needle much. That would leave Nelly, Wally, or Bellows. Palms isn't moving, he's got an NTC. Who else could you move?
I could be dead wrong of course, what the hell do I know.
- Isleshockeyman

Tito and or Bailey could be moved. You can always dump salary but I don’t see that being Lou’s first choice. I have a feeling Kadri will be the guy if Lou does acquire someone before the start of the season.
But he may just see how this team starts the season with Lane in charge before he dumps assets (that this team really can’t afford to lose). If they start well and are in PO position then rent at the deadline.
Just sayin’

Maybe, but guys want raises and this will be his last big contract. We'll see how it all plays out.
- Isleshockeyman

Not crazy about it for a few reasons. I think Barzal is the most talented player they have and I'm not sure the best way back to the playoffs is having your most talented player learn a new position. Also, everything about him and the way he plays screams "center" to me rather than "winger." Finally, it doesn't seem like the best idea in a year where you probably want to make him as happy as possible if you plan to get him to sign long-term during or after the season.
- UIF

I think moving Barzal to the wing is a smarter move for a few reasons. His defensive responsibility on the wing is a lot less critical than it would be at the center ice position. Kadri has a better face win percentage than Barzal. Barzal is at 46.34% and Kadri is at 50%.

Barzal's game would not be restricted one bit placing him on the wing. In fact I think his game would improve.

I don’t think Lou’s gonna trade JGP.
He acquired him when we needed that true 3rd line center and he’s been that and more. Except for last year when the whole team took a half a year off.
I get it would be easier to move him than Bailey but I just don’t see the loss of JGP to get a Kadri taking a step forward.
Just my opinion of course.
- nyisles7

Losing JGP would be a huge hit to this team. You can play him anywhere in the lineup and in any game situation. Face-offs, PP, PK, Forecheck, you name it the kid can play it. I think he had an off year because his hand was not a 100%. You gotta keep him

He's going to be Andrew Ladd 2.0
- PeteM

Hope not.

Don’t see Nelson getting traded even for Tank.
One step forward 2 steps back imho.
- nyisles7

I disagree on this one. I believe the islanders if the can sign Kadri would have enough down the middle to move Nelson for Tank. I believe Tanks production would out weigh Nelsons. I do not think Nelsons value will be any higher than it is now.

You can slide JGP into the No.2 spot. Place Otto Koivula in the No.3 spot.

I disagree on this one. I believe the islanders if the can sign Kadri would have enough down the middle to move Nelson for Tank. I believe Tanks production would out weigh Nelsons. I do not think Nelsons value will be any higher than it is now.

You can slide JGP into the No.2 spot. Place Otto Koivula in the No.3 spot.
- Nfdbulldawg

- Wildschwein

🤣🤣🤣🤣no facking way

I disagree on this one. I believe the islanders if the can sign Kadri would have enough down the middle to move Nelson for Tank. I believe Tanks production would out weigh Nelsons. I do not think Nelsons value will be any higher than it is now.

You can slide JGP into the No.2 spot. Place Otto Koivula in the No.3 spot.
- Nfdbulldawg

There we disagree. I don’t think Koivula can just slip into the number 3 spot effectively.
If you get Kadri you can throw Nelly or Barzal to the wing. You trade Nellys 40 goals for Tanks and then throw in Koivila in your not gaining your losing.

- Wildschwein

🤣🤣🤣🤣no facking way
- Vukota

- Wildschwein

I think moving Barzal to the wing is a smarter move for a few reasons. His defensive responsibility on the wing is a lot less critical than it would be at the center ice position. Kadri has a better face win percentage than Barzal. Barzal is at 46.34% and Kadri is at 50%.

Barzal's game would not be restricted one bit placing him on the wing. In fact I think his game would improve.
- Nfdbulldawg

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Barzal plays D better than Tavares did when he was here, and I think it'd have been just as bad of an idea to move Tavares to the wing. To me, Barzal's problem is committing some bad turnovers when his razzle dazzle stuff suffers a critical error every once in a while. He'd still do that as a winger, and probably quite a bit at his own blue line trying to break out of the zone.

But as far as getting back and playing defense...he's definitely no Nelson or Pageau, but he's passable for a center who you'd hope would be on offense way more than defense anyway.

- Wildschwein

🤣🤣🤣🤣no facking way
- Vukota

Yeah no.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Barzal plays D better than Tavares did when he was here, and I think it'd have been just as bad of an idea to move Tavares to the wing. To me, Barzal's problem is committing some bad turnovers when his razzle dazzle stuff suffers a critical error every once in a while. He'd still do that as a winger, and probably quite a bit at his own blue line trying to break out of the zone.

But as far as getting back and playing defense...he's definitely no Nelson or Pageau, but he's passable for a center who you'd hope would be on offense way more than defense anyway.
- UIF

1st bold: You're not crazy, but talk about setting the bar low...
2nd bold: Yeah, Tavares might have gotten so pissed off he might have quit the Islanders...

1st bold: You're not crazy, but talk about setting the bar low...
2nd bold: Yeah, Tavares might have gotten so pissed off he might have quit the Islanders...
- JohnScammo

1st bold: You're not crazy, but talk about setting the bar low...
2nd bold: Yeah, Tavares might have gotten so pissed off he might have quit the Islanders...
- JohnScammo

Garth should have had JT moved to wing a month before the trade deadline and JT would have asked for a trade.

There we disagree. I don’t think Koivula can just slip into the number 3 spot effectively.
If you get Kadri you can throw Nelly or Barzal to the wing. You trade Nellys 40 goals for Tanks and then throw in Koivila in your not gaining your losing.
- nyisles7

Nelly has not hit 40 goals nor will he. Your dreaming if you think he will. 30/ 35 maybe one more time but not 40...aint happening.

LOL
Totally understand your thinking.
Although He only has this year left so unless he agrees to a new contract with the team he’s traded to now He’s basically a rental but with a longer lease.
He’s gonna want 7 or 8 years and $7.5 mil per I would think.
Looking at it from the acquiring teams side if you can get him at the trade deadline when you know what your team has it will cost you a lot less than trading for him now. Or wait until he’s a FA and lose no assets.
There are always two sides and both have to want it to make it work.
- nyisles7

I have no issue with money being spent to add to the offense. If it’s 7 years for Tarasenko, so be it. Total game changer. As for clearing money, I don’t see a need to pay two goalies first string money. I feel like the isles have Sorokin as their goalie so they’re gonna have to fish or cut bait with Varly. That’s 5 million being spent on a back up….money that’s being misspent in my opinion. I’d have been happy with Greiss at 1.5 per to back up Sorokin

- Wildschwein

You are all funny...So the only piece of the puzzle you can move is Bailey... And the Bailey Lovers will hate now.

For the record Otto was second in points on Bridgeport. Why not given him a shot? With Kadri, Barzal, JPG and CC you still have 4C. Again, if you think Nelson is hitting 40 goals your crazy. If he gets 30 this year you will be lucky. you read it here first.