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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 10:30 PM ET
Yeah, the Faces of Death Franchise was crazy stuff. You can still find the Dwyer video online.
- keaner17

Pretty crazy stuff and even crazier song title by Filter
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 13 @ 10:32 PM ET
Pretty crazy stuff and even crazier song title by Filter
- Cptmjl

Yeah, Richard Patrick, their singer, lived in the area during that period. It was definitely a moment
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 10:38 PM ET
if I run into Ledecky again you can bet I'll ask him what happened. I'll do my best not to get Lou in trouble.

- ses111

Just as Jimmy pointed out there’s still time to make something happen. My only gripe is overpaying for half the player we missed out on today or overpaying for someone else and further mortgaging our future. I’m not exactly bullish on us being as close to cup contenders as some on here are evidently so I’m not exactly sold on trading next years first or what little prospects we have. I think Gaudreau gave us the best chance to be right there without giving anything up minus a couple of players that it was time to move on from to begin with. Who knows maybe Lameriello will do something nobody expected and we’ll be the better for it but right now I’m more concerned about what he might do and give up in the process then anything else.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:47 PM ET
Yeah, the Faces of Death Franchise was crazy stuff. You can still find the Dwyer video online.
- keaner17

Yeah, lol, I don’t need to see any of that poop again.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:48 PM ET
Pretty crazy stuff and even crazier song title by Filter
- Cptmjl

I saw Filter at the Limelight in like ‘95 or ‘96. Crazy place to see them.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 13 @ 10:50 PM ET
Yeah, the Faces of Death Franchise was crazy stuff. You can still find the Dwyer video online.
- keaner17


WTF!

That's seriously messed up by him and the camera guy!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 10:52 PM ET
I saw Filter at the Limelight in like ‘95 or ‘96. Crazy place to see them.
- potvin05

Was quite familiar with it.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:58 PM ET
Was quite familiar with it.
- Cptmjl

That place was wild. Met Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson once and partied with Korn in ‘95. Place is a hipster, wanna-be clothing store now. At least last time I was in that area.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 11:01 PM ET
That place was wild. Met Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson once and partied with Korn in ‘95. Place is a hipster, wanna-be clothing store now. At least last time I was in that area.
- potvin05

It was then I think it turned at least partially into a fancy pizzeria after the clothing stores I believe recently. I think I saw that somewhere in Time Out or something? Had some wild times there around the same time you were there.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 13 @ 11:05 PM ET
That place was wild. Met Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson once and partied with Korn in ‘95. Place is a hipster, wanna-be clothing store now. At least last time I was in that area.
- potvin05


I worked on 6th and 18th 5 years ago and I think it was a gym.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 11:07 PM ET
I worked on 6th and 18th 5 years ago and I think it was a gym.
- JimmyP

I believe that was short lived.

Edit; You are correct it still is a gym according to what I just read…
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 11:07 PM ET
It was then I think it turned at least partially into a fancy pizzeria after the clothing stores I believe recently. I think I saw that somewhere in Time Out or something? Had some wild times there around the same time you were there.
- Cptmjl

I’m sure every generation says this, but what a time to be young and stupid, the 90s. Great music, you can’t dispute that at all.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 11:08 PM ET
I worked on 6th and 18th 5 years ago and I think it was a gym.
- JimmyP

Rather that than that stupid store, for sure. It was like what they did to CBGBs. Just like, insult to injury.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:32 AM ET
We missed out. Guy had an 115 point season. I don’t think it’s some NY Post/Ranger conspiracy to bash the Islanders. This is a pretty accurate yet pointing out the obvious part of the article;

“ Columbus general manager Jarmo Kekalainen convinced him to sign in a small market that requires an airplane trip to reach south Jersey.”

Thems the facts.

- Cptmjl


I have no idea of it contributed, but these days I rarely see Gaudreau without facial hair, the guy looks 12.

Lamierello’s no facial hair policy is silliness, Palmieri needs a beard desperately. You can’t tell grown men not to have facial hair.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 14 @ 6:40 AM ET
Taxes are not an issue for the Rangers. Doubt Trotz's firing had any bearing at all.
- ses111


All this crap about taxes being a factor. It is Bull Sh!t !!! You are a 100% correct in that the Rags do not have issues signing UFAs. Big ones at that. Disappointing that this organization no matter who is running the ship cannot land the big fish.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 14 @ 7:06 AM ET
I see the Devils backup plan was Palat. What's Lou's? A warm glass of milk and a long nap?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 14 @ 7:13 AM ET
All this crap about taxes being a factor. It is Bull Sh!t !!! You are a 100% correct in that the Rags do not have issues signing UFAs. Big ones at that. Disappointing that this organization no matter who is running the ship cannot land the big fish.
- Nfdbulldawg

If i can find it I will post here:: there was an article a little while ago quoting a few sports agents who said they typically advise their clients against NY and CA dur to taxes. It's a thing but it ultimately comes down to personal preference.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 14 @ 7:29 AM ET
I see the Devils backup plan was Palat. What's Lou's? A warm glass of milk and a long nap?
- Mancalledsting

I like palat I think he would be a good add. Guy is exactly who you want come playoff time. If we weren’t so desperate for pure offense and needed a middle six fwd I would be all about him but that reported contract is pretty putrid. That’s exactly what I hope Lameriello doesn’t do.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 14 @ 7:33 AM ET
I have no idea of it contributed, but these days I rarely see Gaudreau without facial hair, the guy looks 12.

Lamierello’s no facial hair policy is silliness, Palmieri needs a beard desperately. You can’t tell grown men not to have facial hair.

- jimbro83

All kidding aside I’m sure there are plenty of players around the league that don’t want to play under Lameriello’s thumb. Its not a big secret the guy is a micromanager. I’m not saying that’s the case with Gaudreau. We’ll probably never know, but I for one would go somewhere I would get my balls broken the least
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 14 @ 7:37 AM ET
All this crap about taxes being a factor. It is Bull Sh!t !!! You are a 100% correct in that the Rags do not have issues signing UFAs. Big ones at that. Disappointing that this organization no matter who is running the ship cannot land the big fish.
- Nfdbulldawg


If the Rangers missed out as much as the Islanders then I would buy the taxes reason. It's very strange the two long playoff runs and now a new building do not seem to help in terms of free agency.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 14 @ 7:42 AM ET
If the Rangers missed out as much as the Islanders then I would buy the taxes reason. It's very strange the two long playoff runs and now a new building do not seem to help in terms of free agency.
- ses111

I’m sure it’s a factor to some extent. With that said the reaching for excuses every time we strike out on a FA is about as predictable an event as you can find. Soon the tax theory will be 100% fact on here for a few people on here
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 14 @ 7:53 AM ET
I’m sure it’s a factor to some extent. With that said the reaching for excuses every time we strike out on a FA is about as predictable an event as you can find. Soon the tax theory will be 100% fact on here for a few people on here
- Cptmjl

I said it last night and I’ll say it again…sad truth is we play in the Rangers shadow, just like the Devils too. I think we underestimate how much of a factor that is for players. All these guys have egos, don’t care if you’re the biggest “team” guy on the roster or the most selfish bastard on the roster…would you rather run Midtown Manhattan or Elmont or Newark?

It’s honestly the only thing I can think of. Maybe the Lou factor is real. We go another year without making the playoffs though, and I bet dollars to doughnuts, Lou’s a goner. Then we’ll see what the narrative is when Barzal doesn’t sign here or another big UFA snubs us. Big reason I see a trade coming up, even, maybe today. Lou wants to save his job and no one wants to sign here.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 14 @ 8:07 AM ET
I said it last night and I’ll say it again…sad truth is we play in the Rangers shadow, just like the Devils too. I think we underestimate how much of a factor that is for players. All these guys have egos, don’t care if you’re the biggest “team” guy on the roster or the most selfish bastard on the roster…would you rather run Midtown Manhattan or Elmont or Newark?

It’s honestly the only thing I can think of. Maybe the Lou factor is real. We go another year without making the playoffs though, and I bet dollars to doughnuts, Lou’s a goner. Then we’ll see what the narrative is when Barzal doesn’t sign here or another big UFA snubs us. Big reason I see a trade coming up, even, maybe today. Lou wants to save his job and no one wants to sign here.

- potvin05



Perhaps a contributing factor for JG is the defensive system Trotz ran out. We don't know what Lambert is going to do, but guessing it'll be more of a defense-first. I don't see him going run-and-gun.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:09 AM ET
If the Rangers missed out as much as the Islanders then I would buy the taxes reason. It's very strange the two long playoff runs and now a new building do not seem to help in terms of free agency.
- ses111


Then (in retrospect) the obvious solution is to start targeting RFAs from rebuilding markets, and stop hoping for the 30 year old freebies.

Case in point, Timo Meier. 2015 draft, loves to shoot and is a dynamic player/skater.

Getting him is gonna cost a bunch. But if the organization is in win now mode, then you suck it up and do it.

I’d much rather this than hoping for an amicable UFA, or using those very same assests at the deadline for a rental.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 14 @ 8:09 AM ET
Perhaps a contributing factor for JG is the defensive system Trotz ran out. We don't know what Lambert is going to do, but guessing it'll be more of a defense-first. I don't see him going run-and-gun.
- Isleshockeyman


Then it's the same style as Barry. Barry was defense first.
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