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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
Just to show how absurd all the Cap issues nonsense is.. let's look at some other teams...

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bluejackets Columbus who just signed Johnny G for $9.75 mill now has $2 mill in room with 2 RFA's yet to sign including Laine.

Tampa is $7 mill OVER the cap even after giving away McDonagh. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bluejackets

Caps are $6 mill over the cap... https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals

Panthers are $3 mill over the cap.. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/panthers

Vegas who just gave away Paccioretty is still 1.4 mill over the cap. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights

The Islanders are almost $12 mill under the cap with Romanov and Dobson to sign.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
What politics are you referring to?

Admittedly I’m from an uber rural area of northern Alberta, and have never had need to cross borders. So I’m undoubtably insulated from the issues to which you refer.

- Wildschwein


Those are the ones I am talking about... if you searched at all for stories I am sure you would find it rather quickly.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
At least you apologized
- keaner17

Don't compliment him, he's just trying to reach his quota so he doesn't lose his healthcare
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
Don't compliment him, he's just trying to reach his quota so he doesn't lose his healthcare
- eichiefs9

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Don't compliment him, he's just trying to reach his quota so he doesn't lose his healthcare
- eichiefs9


JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Just to show how absurd all the Cap issues nonsense is.. let's look at some other teams...

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bluejackets Columbus who just signed Johnny G for $9.75 mill now has $2 mill in room with 2 RFA's yet to sign including Laine.

Tampa is $7 mill OVER the cap even after giving away McDonagh. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bluejackets

Caps are $6 mill over the cap... https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals

Panthers are $3 mill over the cap.. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/panthers

Vegas who just gave away Paccioretty is still 1.4 mill over the cap. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights

The Islanders are almost $12 mill under the cap with Romanov and Dobson to sign.

- niteislander

Not sure that your examples make your point. For example, if Tampa had to give away McDonagh because they're over the cap, isn't that a bad thing?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Don't compliment him, he's just trying to reach his quota so he doesn't lose his healthcare
- eichiefs9

Sorry...(as a side note I'd like to donate my sorry count to him, health matters)
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Just to show how absurd all the Cap issues nonsense is.. let's look at some other teams...

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bluejackets Columbus who just signed Johnny G for $9.75 mill now has $2 mill in room with 2 RFA's yet to sign including Laine.

Tampa is $7 mill OVER the cap even after giving away McDonagh. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bluejackets

Caps are $6 mill over the cap... https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals

Panthers are $3 mill over the cap.. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/panthers

Vegas who just gave away Paccioretty is still 1.4 mill over the cap. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights

The Islanders are almost $12 mill under the cap with Romanov and Dobson to sign.

- niteislander


And they don’t have to give away players so that’s a plus no?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 20 @ 3:01 PM ET
And they don’t have to give away players so that’s a plus no?
- nyisles7

One would think so.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 3:03 PM ET
Not sure that your examples make your point. For example, if Tampa had to give away McDonagh because they're over the cap, isn't that a bad thing?
- JohnScammo


my point was the last line.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 3:04 PM ET
What politics are you referring to?

Admittedly I’m from an uber rural area of northern Alberta, and have never had need to cross borders. So I’m undoubtably insulated from the issues to which you refer.

- Wildschwein


Wasn’t there a video from Whitney about his 12 hour airport experience? Trudeau is a real beauty
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 3:04 PM ET
And they don’t have to give away players so that’s a plus no?
- nyisles7


Yes.. which was the point.. we didn't sign JG b/c our current GM refuses to Over pay anyone.. including our own UFA's when they were available. All of those guys could have gotten more on open mkt.. but took less to stick around.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
Wasn’t there a video from Whitney about his 12 hour airport experience? Trudeau is a real beauty
- kindlyrick



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vji8Jx-ovIA
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
Sorry...(as a side note I'd like to donate my sorry count to him, health matters)
- keaner17



You think JG and Tkachuck might have left Calgary Because of the high taxes? His list doesn’t include NY and Ca. Interesting?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
Sorry...(as a side note I'd like to donate my sorry count to him, health matters)
- keaner17


ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 20 @ 3:08 PM ET
Yes.. which was the point.. we didn't sign JG b/c our current GM refuses to Over pay anyone.. including our own UFA's when they were available. All of those guys could have gotten more on open mkt.. but took less to stick around.
- niteislander


It’s tough if you are not willing to overpay for star talent. Some players you have to pay up. You can be tougher with players like Bailey. If the Isles money is competitive than they have bigger issues getting rejected.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
You think JG and Tkachuck might have left Calgary Because of the high taxes? His list doesn’t include NY and Ca. Interesting?
- nyisles7



If I’m in the NHL there’s no way I’d sign with a Canadian team. The mandates are maniacal. Taxes and dollar valuation aside, I watched the Canadian government abuse power. The fact that teams were flying into Buffalo to cross the border (driving over didn’t require quarantine) is reason enough.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
It’s tough if you are not willing to overpay for star talent. Some players you have to pay up. You can be tougher with players like Bailey. If the Isles money is competitive than they have bigger issues getting rejected.
- ses111


I think it’s high time the isles end the Bailey chapter and use that money elsewhere. He’s got a lot to offer a contending team, but I’d rather see them use that money on a fresh set of legs.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
Yes.. which was the point.. we didn't sign JG b/c our current GM refuses to Over pay anyone.. including our own UFA's when they were available. All of those guys could have gotten more on open mkt.. but took less to stick around.
- niteislander



No Lou just sucks ass and missed on JG when he really wanted to come here.
That said My point is if you’re not aware of your cap (especially when it’s not increasing as it hasn’t and won’t significantly for the next 3 years) you will have to eat salary, trade assets or give away players to become Cap compliant.
Again because of the cap freeze and debt of the NHLPA the cap is more of a factor because there’s no relief with a considerable increase in the next few years.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
You think JG and Tkachuck might have left Calgary Because of the high taxes? His list doesn’t include NY and Ca. Interesting?
- nyisles7


Actually a very good point.. mentions Vegas, Florida, Nashville, and Dallas.. all have Zero state income Tax. not sure what St. Louis.. but doubt it's high.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 20 @ 3:15 PM ET
I think it’s high time the isles end the Bailey chapter and use that money elsewhere. He’s got a lot to offer a contending team, but I’d rather see them use that money on a fresh set of legs.
- kindlyrick


It’s worth losing a Bailey or similar player if you can add a star like JG. Teams should have young players they can rely on if they need to replace a player or two.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
Actually a very good point.. mentions Vegas, Florida, Nashville, and Dallas.. all have Zero state income Tax. not sure what St. Louis.. but doubt it's high.
- niteislander



Not according to the experts on here
At the end of the day it’s what you keep!
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
One would think so.
- JohnScammo


Just sayin
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
True but what’s the difference the money is still tied up in 12th & 13th forwards whether they punch faces or not. You don’t save money on the cap if he is good at face offs instead of fighting 🖕🤣
- Vukota

Just threw in the face puncher thing cuz I know you like’em
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 3:44 PM ET
$1 million or $1.5 million are not an issue.. IF you need room u can waive them and YES they would get picked up if you did waive them.. They do have value in a line up whether u think so or not... Ask Carolina who got pushed around by a bigger team who knocked them out of the playoffs... the Rangers were not the better team in that series.. they were the tougher team. Trouba head hunting all the skill players and Canes having no one to do anything about it was a huge factor in that series.


Having a 4th line with guys that can actually play big minutes are why this team was a short handed goal when those guys WEREN"T on the ice away from a cup final.

YOu want to complain about our salaries? who makes too much on this team? No one is making 10, 11, 12, or 13 mill a year. the ones that are high are movable.

- niteislander

This coming to from the guy that said we have no salary cap issues and we could trade Bailey at will. We just most likely couldn’t move our salary to sign a FA. Nobody is taking on Matt martins contract and most likely not Johnston either. Also, Matt Martin is not good. He can longer play “big minutes”.
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