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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 24 @ 7:36 PM ET
Have the isles announced their RFA signings? I feel like some were but others weren’t.

Also anyone else sick of seeing Jim Carey’s face? Thanks Vukota.

- streaks

I accidentally created a monster🤣🤣
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Jul 24 @ 7:43 PM ET
I accidentally created a monster🤣🤣
- Vukota

Every time I come back into this site after closing it I have to see that fuks face 😂😂

Hopefully Ben has something to write about soon 😅
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 24 @ 7:47 PM ET
I like Kadri, but as I mentioned earlier, not sure he gets us to the next level, especially after losing a player two to create the space needed. With that said, I have a feeling he’s one of Lou’s targets.
- streaks

Like I’ve been saying I’m sure all of these guys that were available were Lou’s targets he just didn’t wind up getting them for whatever reason. I think Kadri we very well may wind up getting. I just don’t want us to get bent over with his contract. Tarasenko may cost us assets we most likely shouldn’t be giving up. It’s a bit of a conundrum.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 24 @ 7:56 PM ET
This was our Uber Driver last night.



John Tonelli for HOF

- Tee56


Nice tip thanks!
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 24 @ 8:58 PM ET
At the risk of spending too much time on something that is far from inevitable, would you consider moving Barzal to wing and having Kadri center that line? Barzal would have fewer defensive responsibilities as a wing and could focus more on offense. I think Kadri would be better on faceoffs too. Of course, I do agree with you that Barzal would not turn into "the kind of scoring winger they've desperately needed forever."

It's late July. We're allowed to focus on the irrelevant.

- JohnScammo


Not crazy about it for a few reasons. I think Barzal is the most talented player they have and I'm not sure the best way back to the playoffs is having your most talented player learn a new position. Also, everything about him and the way he plays screams "center" to me rather than "winger." Finally, it doesn't seem like the best idea in a year where you probably want to make him as happy as possible if you plan to get him to sign long-term during or after the season.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:29 PM ET
Not crazy about it for a few reasons. I think Barzal is the most talented player they have and I'm not sure the best way back to the playoffs is having your most talented player learn a new position. Also, everything about him and the way he plays screams "center" to me rather than "winger." Finally, it doesn't seem like the best idea in a year where you probably want to make him as happy as possible if you plan to get him to sign long-term during or after the season.
- UIF

All fair points. I would just say that, as much as I like Barzal, he hasn't been a great 2-way player, and I was thinking less defensive responsibility might help his overall game. But yeah, getting him to learn to play wing might be asking too much of him.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 7:40 AM ET
All fair points. I would just say that, as much as I like Barzal, he hasn't been a great 2-way player, and I was thinking less defensive responsibility might help his overall game. But yeah, getting him to learn to play wing might be asking too much of him.
- JohnScammo

I think it has less to do with asking to much of him and more to do with not pissing the kid off

With that said this is a put up or shut up year for Barzal. Contract year for him I’m sure he’ll have a good season.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:02 AM ET
I think it has less to do with asking to much of him and more to do with not pissing the kid off

With that said this is a put up or shut up year for Barzal. Contract year for him I’m sure he’ll have a good season.

- Cptmjl

I'm not in any way endorsing the idea, but I wonder if Lou isn't shopping Pageau. He's got a 16-team no trade list and would probably be much more sought-after than Bailey. Clears up a lot of money down the line too.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
I'm not in any way endorsing the idea, but I wonder if Lou isn't shopping Pageau. He's got a 16-team no trade list and would probably be much more sought-after than Bailey. Clears up a lot of money down the line too.
- eichiefs9

I guess depending on what’s coming back and the player we’re after that fill that space that may be his only option. I would of course rather he didn’t trade Pageau but if he’s after Kadri for example that obviously makes Pageau expendable.

If he did trade Pageau isles Twitter would be fun for a while haha.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
I'm not in any way endorsing the idea, but I wonder if Lou isn't shopping Pageau. He's got a 16-team no trade list and would probably be much more sought-after than Bailey. Clears up a lot of money down the line too.
- eichiefs9


It would be tough losing Pageau but his style and lack of size make him tough in terms of having long term value. I get the idea of wanting two good goalies but maybe trading Varly would have been the right thing to do Cap wise?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
I guess depending on what’s coming back and the player we’re after that fill that space that may be his only option. I would of course rather he didn’t trade Pageau but if he’s after Kadri for example that obviously makes Pageau expendable.

If he did trade Pageau isles Twitter would be fun for a while haha.

- Cptmjl

Sorry I should have specified, I meant trading him to fit in Kadri. That keeps Barzal at center and makes them even deeper down the middle
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
Sorry I should have specified, I meant trading him to fit in Kadri. That keeps Barzal at center and makes them even deeper down the middle
- eichiefs9

Barzal would be our third line center if you ask me
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
Sorry I should have specified, I meant trading him to fit in Kadri. That keeps Barzal at center and makes them even deeper down the middle
- eichiefs9


Kadri would be 3C? Still does not solve the 1RW scoring wing problem.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
Barzal would be our third line center if you ask me
- Cptmjl





Really hard to see how Kadri moves the needle in a big way.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:20 AM ET


Really hard to see how Kadri moves the needle in a big way.

- ses111

I think he helps and brings something this team really doesn’t have. With that said I don’t think he’s worth whatever he’s going to get paid between money and term. I think I can say this without even seeing his contract.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:23 AM ET
I think he helps and brings something this team really doesn’t have. With that said I don’t think he’s worth whatever he’s going to get paid between money and term. I think I can say this without even seeing his contract.
- Cptmjl


You just cannot count on the numbers he put up with Colorado last year. It would be a very risky signing like many of the UFA's.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Barzal would be our third line center if you ask me
- Cptmjl

Well however it worked out it'd be an interesting move. Again, not dying to lose Pageau at all but it sure seems like Lou isn't going to move Bailey.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Well however it worked out it'd be an interesting move. Again, not dying to lose Pageau at all but it sure seems like Lou isn't going to move Bailey.
- eichiefs9


It's one thing if Lou cannot move Bailey without giving up a big piece. It's entirely different if Lou does not want to move Bailey.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
You just cannot count on the numbers he put up with Colorado last year. It would be a very risky signing like many of the UFA's.
- ses111

The juice won’t be worth the squeeze with him imo. I do like him as a player and think he would be a good (probably not great)addition. But I don’t think it will be a good investment and ultimately won’t be worth it. I also agree he’s not what we really need but outside of maybe tarasenko I’m not really sure there’s a path to fill that need.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
The juice won’t be worth the squeeze with him imo. I do like him as a player and think he would be a good (probably not great)addition. But I don’t think it will be a good investment and ultimately won’t be worth it. I also agree he’s not what we really need but outside of maybe tarasenko I’m not really sure there’s a path to fill that need.
- Cptmjl



Kadri would be an Anti-Bailey for the top 6 but again the contract could be rough. I get why the players love these long term contracts but it's not good for the sport in terms of making improvements. If you cannot develop young talent you have to give these lousy long term deals and then you are stuck.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
The juice won’t be worth the squeeze with him imo. I do like him as a player and think he would be a good (probably not great)addition. But I don’t think it will be a good investment and ultimately won’t be worth it. I also agree he’s not what we really need but outside of maybe tarasenko I’m not really sure there’s a path to fill that need.
- Cptmjl

What's making me think that Kadri may be seriously considering, or have already agreed to, signing here is that pretty much everything has gone radio-silent on him. Pretty much the same as Parise who just had a contract sitting in Lou's drawer until September
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
What's making me think that Kadri may be seriously considering, or have already agreed to, signing here is that pretty much everything has gone radio-silent on him. Pretty much the same as Parise who just had a contract sitting in Lou's drawer until September
- eichiefs9


You did get the feeling Kadri may be done or very close and it helps Kadri has a history with Lou.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
What's making me think that Kadri may be seriously considering, or have already agreed to, signing here is that pretty much everything has gone radio-silent on him. Pretty much the same as Parise who just had a contract sitting in Lou's drawer until September
- eichiefs9

I said the same thing on here the other day

They may have a contract in place and lameriello is trying to clear salary.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jul 25 @ 11:22 AM ET
What's making me think that Kadri may be seriously considering, or have already agreed to, signing here is that pretty much everything has gone radio-silent on him. Pretty much the same as Parise who just had a contract sitting in Lou's drawer until September
- eichiefs9

I think he is in the fold and theories that we've remained quiet to work other deals may be accurate. In a vacuum, I don't like the idea of signing him for a few reasons.
At 31, Kadri is heading towards the downslope of his career while coming off career numbers. I think it's safe to say that his numbers were boosted playing on the best team in the NHL. He's obviously looking for a payday based on this. The Isles have a number of core guys over 30. A signing of Kadri only makes sense if Lou has a significant follow-up trade that unloads an older expensive player (Bailey?). Meanwhile, that still leaves us in need of a top line sniper. At that stage you are either hoping that comes in the form of Wahlstrom coming of age or yet another trade.
Adding Kadri is a move for a team in 'win now' mode. If we don't get that top line forward who can get 35-40 goals, I'm not sure we're much closer than before
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 25 @ 11:29 AM ET
I think he is in the fold and theories that we've remained quiet to work other deals may be accurate. In a vacuum, I don't like the idea of signing him for a few reasons.
At 31, Kadri is heading towards the downslope of his career while coming off career numbers. I think it's safe to say that his numbers were boosted playing on the best team in the NHL. He's obviously looking for a payday based on this. The Isles have a number of core guys over 30. A signing of Kadri only makes sense if Lou has a significant follow-up trade that unloads an older expensive player (Bailey?). Meanwhile, that still leaves us in need of a top line sniper. At that stage you are either hoping that comes in the form of Wahlstrom coming of age or yet another trade.
Adding Kadri is a move for a team in 'win now' mode. If we don't get that top line forward who can get 35-40 goals, I'm not sure we're much closer than before

- keaner17


Have to agree keaner. Hopefully Wally has a nice season but I have to see if this team has learnt anything in terms of bringing out the best in young offensive talent.
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