I have no issue with money being spent to add to the offense. If it’s 7 years for Tarasenko, so be it. Total game changer. As for clearing money, I don’t see a need to pay two goalies first string money. I feel like the isles have Sorokin as their goalie so they’re gonna have to fish or cut bait with Varly. That’s 5 million being spent on a back up….money that’s being misspent in my opinion. I’d have been happy with Greiss at 1.5 per to back up Sorokin
- kindlyrick

And when sOrOkin gets injured? Ask Pittsburg, Carolina and Toronto how those backups did for them.
As far as Tank. Who/what are you trading to get him?

You are all funny...So the only piece of the puzzle you can move is Bailey... And the Bailey Lovers will hate now.

For the record Otto was second in points on Bridgeport. Why not given him a shot? With Kadri, Barzal, JPG and CC you still have 4C. Again, if you think Nelson is hitting 40 goals your crazy. If he gets 30 this year you will be lucky. you read it here first.
- Nfdbulldawg

Ehhh Nelson is a legitimate 30 goal scorer in the league. Quietest 30 goal scorer in the league but he’s a bonafide 30 goal guy. If he could be moved to acquire Tarasenko and you can sign Kadri, you’re parlaying Nelson for Tarasenko and Kadri……infinitely a better team!

You are all funny...So the only piece of the puzzle you can move is Bailey... And the Bailey Lovers will hate now.

For the record Otto was second in points on Bridgeport. Why not given him a shot? With Kadri, Barzal, JPG and CC you still have 4C. Again, if you think Nelson is hitting 40 goals your crazy. If he gets 30 this year you will be lucky. you read it here first.
- Nfdbulldawg

I’m keeping this in the memory banks. So you have Nelson slated for 20? Honest question.

And when sOrOkin gets injured? Ask Pittsburg, Carolina and Toronto how those backups did for them.
As far as Tank. Who/what are you trading to get him?
- nyisles7

Greiss handled his games like a starter. I’m not suggesting you bring up Cory Schneider but there’s def capable back ups.

Brock Nelson, and a first for Tarasenko. I don’t think Brock alone gets it done.

Ehhh Nelson is a legitimate 30 goal scorer in the league. Quietest 30 goal scorer in the league but he’s a bonafide 30 goal guy. If he could be moved to acquire Tarasenko and you can sign Kadri, you’re parlaying Nelson for Tarasenko and Kadri……infinitely a better team!
- kindlyrick

So if Kadri is added without Tank and keeping Nelson the team isn’t better?

You are all funny...So the only piece of the puzzle you can move is Bailey... And the Bailey Lovers will hate now.

For the record Otto was second in points on Bridgeport. Why not given him a shot? With Kadri, Barzal, JPG and CC you still have 4C. Again, if you think Nelson is hitting 40 goals your crazy. If he gets 30 this year you will be lucky. you read it here first.
- Nfdbulldawg

I don’t think anyone has an issue with giving koivula a look here and there if a player goes down with injury or somebody is underperforming to see what he has. The problem is thinking he’s ready to take on a full time role as a third line center. He hasn’t shown enough to warrant that imo. The third line was a black hole for years before we signed JPG.

So if Kadri is added without Tank and keeping Nelson the team isn’t better?
- nyisles7

I don’t think Kadri addresses the first line wing. I think Kadri is a true 2C

Let me ask you if you could trade Nelson and a first for Tarasenko and Kadri, do you not pull that trigger? I would 100 out of 100 times

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Barzal plays D better than Tavares did when he was here, and I think it'd have been just as bad of an idea to move Tavares to the wing. To me, Barzal's problem is committing some bad turnovers when his razzle dazzle stuff suffers a critical error every once in a while. He'd still do that as a winger, and probably quite a bit at his own blue line trying to break out of the zone.

But as far as getting back and playing defense...he's definitely no Nelson or Pageau, but he's passable for a center who you'd hope would be on offense way more than defense anyway.
- UIF

He’s no Casey on the D side either.
When Tavares and Barzal were 1C and 2C the Islanders offensively were great but were a dumpster fire defensively. Now that’s not only their fault because Weight was coach. Barzal’s defensive lapses are not only in the Isles end. It’s the turnovers at both blue lines and in between. Even the TO or forced passes in the offensive zone are defensive lapses.
Love the kid, love his skill and desire but I would love if he cleaned up some of the TO because I think it would make him that much better. When you talk about the elites in the game that’s how they play.

I don’t think Kadri addresses the first line wing. I think Kadri is a true 2C

Let me ask you if you could trade Nelson and a first for Tarasenko and Kadri, do you not pull that trigger? I would 100 out of 100 times
- kindlyrick

If I got both for Nelson and a first yes probably. If you don’t get Kadri do you trade Nelson for Tank? I don’t.
Kadri could play wing no problem. I think he played some wing with the leafs if I’m not mistaken. C to wing isn’t a problem. Most of the time in the world Jrs. The Centers are taken because they are the better players on both sides of the puck and some Centers have to go to wing which isn’t a problem. JT played wing in the world Jrs. and played wing with Bergy and the Rat on the Canadian Olympic team. It’s going from wing to center that’s a much bigger issue. There are players who play center in Jrs and never play center in the NHL and play wing.

If I got both for Nelson and a first yes probably. If you don’t get Kadri do you trade Nelson for Tank? I don’t.
Kadri could play wing no problem. I think he played some wing with the leafs if I’m not mistaken. C to wing isn’t a problem. Most of the time in the world Jrs. The Centers are taken because they are the better players on both sides of the puck and some Centers have to go to wing which isn’t a problem. JT played wing in the world Jrs. and played wing with Bergy and the Rat on the Canadian Olympic team. It’s going from wing to center that’s a much bigger issue. There are players who play center in Jrs and never play center in the NHL and play wing.
- nyisles7

This entire scenario is predicated on the isles having a deal shelved for Kadri, who's numbers are similar to Nelson, similar in age, but brings more grit. Upgrade imo

He’s no Casey on the D side either.
When Tavares and Barzal were 1C and 2C the Islanders offensively were great but were a dumpster fire defensively. Now that’s not only their fault because Weight was coach. Barzal’s defensive lapses are not only in the Isles end. It’s the turnovers at both blue lines and in between. Even the TO or forced passes in the offensive zone are defensive lapses.
Love the kid, love his skill and desire but I would love if he cleaned up some of the TO because I think it would make him that much better. When you talk about the elites in the game that’s how they play.
- nyisles7

The neutral zone turnovers are maddening

I don't think Barzy is particularly bad in his own end in terms of turnovers. In fact at times he can be pretty good there. He definitely misses an assignment here and there. The bigger issue is that most of his turnovers happen high in the offensive zone near the blue line which can translate into dangerous transition plays. He needs to wise up there.
That said, I don't think there would be anything good to come from him shifting to wing. I will also reiterate that unless Lou has immediate plans to cast off another $5m contract (ie. Bailey), I want no part of a soon to be 32 year old Kadri on a long term deal. I'd much rather we just roll the dice and see what we can do at the deadline.
I don't see any way that a Taresenko trade happens until that point.

I don't think Barzy is particularly bad in his own end in terms of turnovers. In fact at times he can be pretty good there. He definitely misses an assignment here and there. The bigger issue is that most of his turnovers happen high in the offensive zone near the blue line which can translate into dangerous transition plays. He needs to wise up there.
That said, I don't think there would be anything good to come from him shifting to wing. I will also reiterate that unless Lou has immediate plans to cast off another $5m contract (ie. Bailey), I want no part of a soon to be 32 year old Kadri on a long term deal. I'd much rather we just roll the dice and see what we can do at the deadline.
I don't see any way that a Taresenko trade happens until that point.
- keaner17

I don’t think putting Barzal to wing would hurt his game. He’s not that big and won’t have to battle behind the net or defensive end corners or in his crease. He plays a lot
Ike Johnny Hockey who creates and typically plays a pass first game much like Barzal.
But we will agree to disagree on this one. Probably won’t ever find out either way.

JT Miller is the Isles best trade option at this point. He can play wing With Barzal and still take face offs in both ends of the ice. I would not move Barzal to Wing , he opens up a lof of space for his wingers. Besides Lou trading for a forward the only other move l see him making is a low cost vet dman. Murray or dehaan on a 1 year deal or camp tryout.

He’s no Casey on the D side either.
When Tavares and Barzal were 1C and 2C the Islanders offensively were great but were a dumpster fire defensively. Now that’s not only their fault because Weight was coach. Barzal’s defensive lapses are not only in the Isles end. It’s the turnovers at both blue lines and in between. Even the TO or forced passes in the offensive zone are defensive lapses.
Love the kid, love his skill and desire but I would love if he cleaned up some of the TO because I think it would make him that much better. When you talk about the elites in the game that’s how they play.
- nyisles7

I guess that's sort of my point: Reducing his D-zone responsibilities by moving him to wing doesn't really stop his biggest issue...committing turnovers at the blue lines or in the offensive zone. He'd still be doing that as a winger. But you would be taking away from his greatest strength, which is being all over the ice and controlling the play for long stretches.

Pretty good articke on taxes and spirt / NHL

https://www.scripted.com/...b0-4721-a4c2-121b415e8929
- nyisles7

it's a good article but he didn't do his research. He left out City taxes, he left out that Bonus tax rate wrinkle in Canada for Canadians. He gave a few state tax rates but used the Avg instead of the Highest rate..etc.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/23/lack-of-kaapo-kakko-offer-sheet-not-all-good-news-for-rangers/

Interesting point about Varly.
- ses111

I feel like every single time this clown writes something about the Islanders you post it in here despite him constantly writing complete B. S. about the Islanders. Larry Brooks hates the Islanders .. He is a die hard Ranger's fan and Nothing he ever writes about them is correct.

IF the Isles sign Kadri he would be our 1C or 2C ... with Brock being the other one. Barzal would slide to wing with his 40% Face off Percentage.

Frustrating to me that both Pacioretty and Bjorkstrand were traded for basically nothing. We could have used either of those guys and it would have helped us a lot scoring.

Oliver Bjorkstrand had very similar stats to Laine. 80 games last year, 28 goals, had a 13% shot %, Cap hit is less than $5.5 mill and he is only 27... guy is a sniper. He would have been a very "under the radar" type pick up for Isles.

Pacioretty when healthy is a big body that can flat out score. His cap hit is only $7 mill, and if he stays healthy is good for over 30 goals. of the 2 he is the better player in D-zone but much older at 33.

Both were moved for peanuts.. we should have been in on these guys.

Frustrating to me that both Pacioretty and Bjorkstrand were traded for basically nothing. We could have used either of those guys and it would have helped us a lot scoring.

Oliver Bjorkstrand had very similar stats to Laine. 80 games last year, 28 goals, had a 13% shot %, Cap hit is less than $5.5 mill and he is only 27... guy is a sniper. He would have been a very "under the radar" type pick up for Isles.

Pacioretty when healthy is a big body that can flat out score. His cap hit is only $7 mill, and if he stays healthy is good for over 30 goals. of the 2 he is the better player in D-zone but much older at 33.

Both were moved for peanuts.. we should have been in on these guys.
- niteislander

I would imagine getting Bjorkstand out of the division was a preference for Columbus.
Sometimes these trades come together fast, so there may not be time to bid. It probably didn't help the market, but Tkachuk changed that real quick

I feel like every single time this clown writes something about the Islanders you post it in here despite him constantly writing complete B. S. about the Islanders. Larry Brooks hates the Islanders .. He is a die hard Ranger's fan and Nothing he ever writes about them is correct.
- niteislander

What was untrue about the article? It's a valid question having an expensive backup goalie in a Cap world when the Isles need offense and can use as much Cap room as possible to make improvements. It does not matter now but Larry did cover the Islanders dynasty teams. I do not think he has an issue with Lou or the current team as far as I can. It does not matter even if he did. Islanders need to make improvement regardless of the Rangers or the press.

I guess that's sort of my point: Reducing his D-zone responsibilities by moving him to wing doesn't really stop his biggest issue...committing turnovers at the blue lines or in the offensive zone. He'd still be doing that as a winger. But you would be taking away from his greatest strength, which is being all over the ice and controlling the play for long stretches.
- UIF

Being a smaller guy and not having to play in our defensive corners defensively or covering the slot if he played wing wouldn’t be a bad thing imho. We probably will never find out but it’s interesting to explore the pros and cons. He already steps out of the circle on some important FOs.
One thing I do want to see this year is for him to take the next step and cut down on the TO’s period.

Being a smaller guy and not having to play in our defensive corners defensively or covering the slot if he played wing wouldn’t be a bad thing imho. We probably will never find out but it’s interesting to explore the pros and cons. He already steps out of the circle on some important FOs.
One thing I do want to see this year is for him to take the next step and cut down on the TO’s period.
- nyisles7

It would be nice but I think what you see with Barzy thus far is what you'll always get. He's a bit of a hot dog who takes chances, trying to create space and opportunities. Sort of Brett Favre-like in the gunslinger mentality where he will create 5-7 good chances, but also give away 2-3 good chances. The pros typically outweigh the cons, but I don't think he'll ever become a careful puck possession kinda guy.

What was untrue about the article? It's a valid question having an expensive backup goalie in a Cap world when the Isles need offense and can use as much Cap room as possible to make improvements. It does not matter now but Larry did cover the Islanders dynasty teams. I do not think he has an issue with Lou or the current team as far as I can. It does not matter even if he did. Islanders need to make improvement regardless of the Rangers or the press.
- ses111

He's just a clown who hates the Islanders. He constantly writes garbage about them and usually at the exact time where Morons who don't know any better read it.. I hate the guy.

We are moving to Kansas city... Larry
We are moving to Quebec ... Larry..
All the players hate living in Long Island.. Larry

https://nhl.nbcsports.com...a-new-one/comment-page-1/ He has forever typed sht about the Islanders that make it harder to get players b/c they actually read his crap..

so you constantly putting him on an Islander's thread with.. "Hey look what Larry says about us" is maddening... Fck Larry Brooks. He has never once been right on the Isles and he is still annoyed they ruined his youth.

and his quote about us winning hockey games 3-2 is not a recipe for success is beyond stupid... that is how you win hockey games.