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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 8:54 AM ET
lol... On this thread where all i heard from 99% of the "Islander's fans" on here forever is how Ranger's do everything right ... yeah.. Dolan certainly knows how to run a franchise.
- niteislander


The Rangers do not do everything right and I doubt Islander fans on this site post they do everything right. A lot of the free agents they signed over the years have not worked out. The Rangers are aggressive though with trades and free agents and try to make things happen and they do not make excuses about taxes. I'm not a fan of the Rangers at all but I give them credit for making the decision to rebuild and to stick with it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
Maybe this coach will actually play him.
- niteislander


Players have to take responsibly but the coaches have to do a better job as well in getting the most out of the young players. Islanders have had an issue over the years in reaching young offensive forwards.
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Jul 27 @ 10:24 AM ET

LOU, put the full court press on PASTRNAK, Vegas is looking for cheap wings make a move. I’d rather dream about PASTRNAK then KADRI and sounds like TARASENKO isn’t moving especially after losing Perron.



John Tonelli for HOF
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
Wouldn't be the first time somebody on here was wrong.
- Isleshockeyman



I’m always wrong!
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 27 @ 11:27 AM ET
The Rangers do not do everything right and I doubt Islander fans on this site post they do everything right. A lot of the free agents they signed over the years have not worked out. The Rangers are aggressive though with trades and free agents and try to make things happen and they do not make excuses about taxes. I'm not a fan of the Rangers at all but I give them credit for making the decision to rebuild and to stick with it.
- ses111


If I give the Rangers credit for one thing, it's keeping up this aura of desirability despite very average results over the years. Frankly, I don't get it, but it can't be denied that they get to pick and choose from nearly anyone they want because everyone wants to go there for some reason. Hell, there have been players fairly recently who demanded to go only there.

That's a double-edged sword, I guess, because there's really no excuse for not winning all the time when almost all personnel decisions about who to sign or deal are the organization's alone to make...as in, they very rarely have to deal with players demanding to leave, refusing to report, or having them on lists of teams they don't want to go to. So, if you're not winning, who can you blame? Can't say, "No one wants to come here," or "This player wanted to leave and it created a hole." It's always all on management.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
If I give the Rangers credit for one thing, it's keeping up this aura of desirability despite very average results over the years. Frankly, I don't get it, but it can't be denied that they get to pick and choose from nearly anyone they want because everyone wants to go there for some reason. Hell, there have been players fairly recently who demanded to go only there.

That's a double-edged sword, I guess, because there's really no excuse for not winning all the time when almost all personnel decisions about who to sign or deal are the organization's alone to make...as in, they very rarely have to deal with players demanding to leave, refusing to report, or having them on lists of teams they don't want to go to. So, if you're not winning, who can you blame? Can't say, "No one wants to come here," or "This player wanted to leave and it created a hole." It's always all on management.

- UIF

Players obviously want to go there for the great tax benefits.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
Players obviously want to go there for the great tax benefits.
- Cptmjl


JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
I’m always wrong!
- nyisles7

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
If I give the Rangers credit for one thing, it's keeping up this aura of desirability despite very average results over the years. Frankly, I don't get it, but it can't be denied that they get to pick and choose from nearly anyone they want because everyone wants to go there for some reason. Hell, there have been players fairly recently who demanded to go only there.

That's a double-edged sword, I guess, because there's really no excuse for not winning all the time when almost all personnel decisions about who to sign or deal are the organization's alone to make...as in, they very rarely have to deal with players demanding to leave, refusing to report, or having them on lists of teams they don't want to go to. So, if you're not winning, who can you blame? Can't say, "No one wants to come here," or "This player wanted to leave and it created a hole." It's always all on management.

- UIF


It’s NYC…..the perception Manhattan has on the rest of the world is that it’s THE city. Whatever you or anyone else feels about it, it’s perceived as the capital of the world.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 11:59 AM ET
If I give the Rangers credit for one thing, it's keeping up this aura of desirability despite very average results over the years. Frankly, I don't get it, but it can't be denied that they get to pick and choose from nearly anyone they want because everyone wants to go there for some reason. Hell, there have been players fairly recently who demanded to go only there.

That's a double-edged sword, I guess, because there's really no excuse for not winning all the time when almost all personnel decisions about who to sign or deal are the organization's alone to make...as in, they very rarely have to deal with players demanding to leave, refusing to report, or having them on lists of teams they don't want to go to. So, if you're not winning, who can you blame? Can't say, "No one wants to come here," or "This player wanted to leave and it created a hole." It's always all on management.

- UIF


I do not get it either UIF. Players hear Rangers and MSG and it's like they are under
a spell. Manhattan is not all that great anymore either. What ever they are doing it works in terms of most players wanting to play for them.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
It’s NYC…..the perception Manhattan has on the rest of the world is that it’s THE city. Whatever you or anyone else feels about it, it’s perceived as the capital of the world.
- kindlyrick


I guess. NY can be Thunderdome and players will still want to play for the Rangers.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:03 PM ET
I do not get it either UIF. Players hear Rangers and MSG and it's like they are under
a spell. Manhattan is not all that great anymore either. What ever they are doing it works in terms of most players wanting to play for them.

- ses111

Rich mid-twenties professional athletes want to live in NYC, simple as that. If you copy/pasted the Rangers organization into Winnipeg they'd have a much harder time attracting players.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 12:05 PM ET
Rich mid-twenties professional athletes want to live in NYC, simple as that. If you copy/pasted the Rangers organization into Winnipeg they'd have a much harder time attracting players.
- eichiefs9

Though surprisingly most them don’t live in NYC.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 12:10 PM ET
It’s NYC…..the perception Manhattan has on the rest of the world is that it’s THE city. Whatever you or anyone else feels about it, it’s perceived as the capital of the world.
- kindlyrick

Maybe for some players but I think it has more to do with them always being a well run organization that takes care of its players. Also factor in the original six aura that I’m sure has some impact for some players but I think my first statement is what draws players there more then anything else. I have a couple of friends that have worked for the team and no matter what any of us think they’re a well oiled machine and have a reputation as such. That trickles down to the players perceptions of the team even outside of the organization.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:23 PM ET
Though surprisingly most them don’t live in NYC.
- Cptmjl

A lot of the ones without wives/kids do. I don't think a 24yo making $6M/yr is dying to live in Westchester
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:37 PM ET
Maybe for some players but I think it has more to do with them always being a well run organization that takes care of its players. Also factor in the original six aura that I’m sure has some impact for some players but I think my first statement is what draws players there more then anything else. I have a couple of friends that have worked for the team and no matter what any of us think they’re a well oiled machine and have a reputation as such. That trickles down to the players perceptions of the team even outside of the organization.
- Cptmjl


Would be interesting to be a fly on the Wall when the Isles talk with JG and other top free agents to see the sales pitch given. Lou is an all time great GM but can he connect with these young players?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
Rich mid-twenties professional athletes want to live in NYC, simple as that. If you copy/pasted the Rangers organization into Winnipeg they'd have a much harder time attracting players.
- eichiefs9



Can we copy/paste the Rangers to Winnipeg?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:47 PM ET
Can we copy/paste the Rangers to Winnipeg?
- ses111

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:49 PM ET

- eichiefs9





Even better. No offense to mdw.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 12:58 PM ET


Even better. No offense to mdw.

- ses111

Just to be clear...I meant a lot of offense to mdw
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 27 @ 2:15 PM ET
Maybe for some players but I think it has more to do with them always being a well run organization that takes care of its players. Also factor in the original six aura that I’m sure has some impact for some players but I think my first statement is what draws players there more then anything else. I have a couple of friends that have worked for the team and no matter what any of us think they’re a well oiled machine and have a reputation as such. That trickles down to the players perceptions of the team even outside of the organization.
- Cptmjl


I think the number one factor above all else is MSG. NYC to us is no big deal, but anyone outside of New York thinks MSG is the worlds greatest stage. Young players are drawn to the city life with the nightlife, restaurants, A list celebs etc. I have zero doubt the Rangers are run like a well oiled machine but to me that’s just the icing on the cake.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
I think the number one factor above all else is MSG. NYC to us is no big deal, but anyone outside of New York thinks MSG is the worlds greatest stage. Young players are drawn to the city life with the nightlife, restaurants, A list celebs etc. I have zero doubt the Rangers are run like a well oiled machine but to me that’s just the icing on the cake.
- kindlyrick


You couldn't pay me to live there.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
Just to be clear...I meant a lot of offense to mdw
- eichiefs9


kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
You couldn't pay me to live there.
- JimmyP


I agree….now. But, when I was 25-35, you couldn’t convince me otherwise
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
I agree…now. But, when I was 25-35, you couldn’t convince me otherwise
- kindlyrick


I'm not disagreeing with your overall point, but I never wanted to live in the city. Working there was bad enough.
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