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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 13 @ 1:55 PM ET

- Nucker101



Miller here...UFA's and 'stuff'...

Beautiful!!!!

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
The Senators now have stars in Giroux, DeBrincat, Norris and Chabot. Stutzle is heading that way. Tkachuk and Batherson on the cusp.

Almost every team from the past 10 years that had 5+ stars on their team has at least made it to a Conference Finals.

Ottawa is trending 📈📈📈

- DraftandDestroy

Sens are killing it this offseason. AA++ marks. Gonna be good real soon.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 1:59 PM ET
Sens are killing it this offseason. AA++ marks. Gonna be good real soon.
- LordHumungous

They need that to even be relevant this year.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
Sens are killing it this offseason. AA++ marks. Gonna be good real soon.
- LordHumungous

Still 16m in cap to boot.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
Canucks have 23 players signed

Boeser - petey - Miller
Garland - horvat - hoglander
Mikyehev - kuzmenko - podkolzin
Pearson - Lazar- dlckinson
Dowling.

Myers - oel
Hughes - poolman
Burroughs - Rathbone
Schenn - dermott

Demko
Spencer

-2.7 over the cap currently
Will get 3.5 off the cap with ferland going to LTIR for his last season to put canucks -0.8 under the cap

- Codes1087


Not how LTIR works. They would still be “at the cap”, but could exceed the cap by $800k. So they would want to get right to the cap before placing Ferland on LTIR so that they can exceed it by the full $3.5m
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
They need that to even be relevant this year.
- manvanfan

if they get goaltending, they should be relevant with that forward group


Their defense still looks rough though even if Sanderson steps in as a top 4 guy
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
Still 16m in cap to boot.
- Nighthawk

Yeah, but 0m in actual money.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
Not how LTIR works. They would still be “at the cap”, but could exceed the cap by $800k. So they would want to get right to the cap before placing Ferland on LTIR so that they can exceed it by the full $3.5m
- 1970vintage


Thanks for clarifying. The whole LTIR in relation to the cap always confused me.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
NYR Trochek in Copp & Strome out got worse imo. JTM still going there?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
Thanks for clarifying. The whole LTIR in relation to the cap always confused me.
- Codes1087

The Leafs have played this game with the salary cap for 10 years, and I still don't quite understand it.

Somebody needs to clearly explain how it works.

With graphs and pictures and puppets and poop.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
Don’t know much about micky … seem to recall him getting many short handed chances with leafs. Looks kinda big, any physicality? Also, wasn’t he complaining about his role?

Russian machine line complete, or does it need a Center? Damn u malkin … I had u penciled.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
NJD 23m cap space. JTM?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
NJD 23m cap space. JTM?
- Nighthawk


Will be closer to 12 million after they sign johnny gaudreau
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
Looking way better ... only place i think we got them is in net
- Sayros

And coach
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
Yeah, but 0m in actual money.
- Atomic Wedgie

The Melnyk Syndrome lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:12 PM ET
NYI 11.2m in cap. Uncle Lou still in on JTM?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
NJD 23m cap space. JTM?
- Nighthawk

The panel on Sportsnet were stating that Miller should stay with the Canucks, didn't understand why canucks would move him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
Canes 19.4m cap. JTM going all in?
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
Marchment to Dallas … similar to micky?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
The panel on Sportsnet were stating that Miller should stay with the Canucks, didn't understand why canucks would move him.
- Makita

Age aside moving him is a big set back for the kids. Idk if them without JT is a good idea. Torn on the trade or resign question. Comes down to his ask & somebody else would be gone this year or next to fit him into the cap.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀 Faber 

@ChrisFaber39

Elias Pettersson is not on the ice again today at development camp. Walking with a limp and a wrap on his knee

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
The Leafs have played this game with the salary cap for 10 years, and I still don't quite understand it.

Somebody needs to clearly explain how it works.

With graphs and pictures and puppets and poop.

- Atomic Wedgie


Basically you’re allowed to replace your injured player with another of equal value. To maximize the benefit you want to be exactly at the cap, then you can exceed the cap by the amount of the player being put on LTIR.

If the salary cap is $82.5m and your total salary is at $81.0m and a $5m player gets hurt you could trade for a $3.5m player, or you could call up a $1.5m player and trade for a $5m player.

Teams trying to reach the cap floor will trade for guys like Pronger, Zetterberg, Hossa etc because they know they won’t play, and they will be on IR, not LTIR, therefore not on the active player roster (23 man), but counting against the cap.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
The panel on Sportsnet were stating that Miller should stay with the Canucks, didn't understand why canucks would move him.
- Makita

Typical central Canada bias. None of them are ever awake when the Canucks play.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 13 @ 2:20 PM ET
Canes 19.4m cap. JTM going all in?
- Nighthawk

They have not updated cap since Burns trade.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:20 PM ET
Pod Miller Kuz
Hog EP Boeser
Miky Bo Garland
Dlcky Lazar Lockwood

1st try but tbh not my best being lots depends on Kuz.
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