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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: No Q.O.s for 3 Canucks as development camp rolls and free agency looms
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 13 @ 8:40 PM ET
It’s a fuck you to Canada. Hated the politics here. He has Lordy like politics.
- TurdFergeson


Trading his Stetson for a Kevlar vest.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 13 @ 8:46 PM ET
Buddy you need to get off the Bong.
- VanHockeyGuy


OK, list the better trade assets without NMC, young players and prospects that were in place when Benning took over. Show us how they were better than what was in place when this management took over.

I can't even believe someone would put up this argument. Back it up then...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:49 PM ET
OK, list the better trade assets without NMC, young players and prospects that were in place when Benning took over. Show us how they were better than what was in place when this management took over.

I can't even believe someone would put up this argument. Back it up then...

- boonerbuck


Have a wonderful evening boner!
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 8:50 PM ET
😀
- manvanfan



SinBin.vegas
@SinBinVegas
The Golden Knights have traded Max Pacioretty, Marc-Andre Fleury, and Evgenii Dadonov and the best thing they got back was Mikael Hakkarainen.


boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
Have a wonderful evening boner!
- VanHockeyGuy


Exactly what I thought... you can't. I'm right and you know it.

trade asset: Miller vs Nobody

young players: Petey, Quinn, Boeser, Demko, Podkolzin, Hoglander, Lockwood vs Horvat only

Even our weak prospect pool amounts to a lot more than what Gillis left. It was only Gaunce.... (frank)ing Gaunce.

Enjoy your evening. Don't let your state of denial ruin your rest.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
SinBin.vegas
@SinBinVegas
The Golden Knights have traded Max Pacioretty, Marc-Andre Fleury, and Evgenii Dadonov and the best thing they got back was Mikael Hakkarainen.



- dbot

So bad. 🤣

Someone should still offersheet Roy.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:04 PM ET
Wish a Van media member was at prospect camp instead of just Faber. 2 days all he has talked about is McDonough, Klimivich "heavy" shots.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:14 PM ET
I'm liking the additions so far, hopefully making the team 'harder to play against' in terms of sandpaper, speed and PK ability.

JTM-EP40-BB
Pods-Horvat-Garland
Pearson-D!ckinson-Mikky
Lockwood/Joshua-Lazar-Hoglander/Kuzmenko

Defense is still a mess.
I'd personally like to see Hoglander and Pearson moved to improve D.
Have a tougher 4th line.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:16 PM ET
With Guadreau in Columbus, I guess NJ & NYI will be circling back to Miller.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:16 PM ET
With Guadreau in Columbus, I guess NJ & NYI will be circling back to Miller.
- VanHockeyGuy


i'm not holding my breath.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
I asked RD about Marino...

ME;
Good work Rick, enjoy the summer now. Do you think VAN is in on Marino? Garland the other way?

RD;
I was so busy with free agency - didn’t look into that

Will try tomorrow

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:30 PM ET

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
· 28m
There is unrest on the Island. Very interested to see how the #Isles pivot from here. Clear they have money to spend. Lamoriello is now in the final year of his contract - can't close the big UFAs. With a new, gorgeous barn, contending for a Cup is that much more important.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:36 PM ET

- Marwood


He's a pretty good troll tbh.
Makes Nucker's alter ego for a season look amateurish.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:47 PM ET
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
· 28m
There is unrest on the Island. Very interested to see how the #Isles pivot from here. Clear they have money to spend. Lamoriello is now in the final year of his contract - can't close the big UFAs. With a new, gorgeous barn, contending for a Cup is that much more important.

- VanHockeyGuy

Canucks could shift their focus on asking price for Miller. The ask of young roster players and top 4 D. Might have to change. A lot of the teams going for Miller dont have the right assets.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:48 PM ET
SinBin.vegas
@SinBinVegas
The Golden Knights have traded Max Pacioretty, Marc-Andre Fleury, and Evgenii Dadonov and the best thing they got back was Mikael Hakkarainen.



- dbot

They look like they were well managed that first year
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 9:49 PM ET
They look like they were well managed that first year
- neem55


Got greedy and over-extended themselves.
Somehow very apt for a Vegas team.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:49 PM ET
Canucks could shift their focus on asking price for Miller. The ask of young roster players and top 4 D. Might have to change. A lot of the teams going for Miller dont have the right assets.
- manvanfan


Yup, It won't be a slam dunk like people thought before. The market looks better now though.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 13 @ 9:58 PM ET
Canucks could shift their focus on asking price for Miller. The ask of young roster players and top 4 D. Might have to change. A lot of the teams going for Miller dont have the right assets.
- manvanfan


They should get all futures. RHD with top 4 potential/pedigree, C with top 6 potential and a draft pick would be a huge win. Think 3-4 years from now instead of this season.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 13 @ 10:07 PM ET
Got greedy and over-extended themselves.
Somehow very apt for a Vegas team.

- dbot

Still got a pretty damn good team next year, wouldnt be surprised to see them take the Pacific. But yeah, having to give good players away for nothing is brutal.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 10:07 PM ET
Yup, It won't be a slam dunk like people thought before. The market looks better now though.
- VanHockeyGuy

I would say make trades that allow you to make other trades then.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 13 @ 10:10 PM ET
They should get all futures. RHD with top 4 potential/pedigree, C with top 6 potential and a draft pick would be a huge win. Think 3-4 years from now instead of this season.
- 1970vintage


All hindsight now, not having a 2nd in the draft hurt. Below all RHD.


Draft#:37 *
Ryan Chesley
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/201 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: US NTDP

Draft#:42
Noah Warren
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/224 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Gatineau (QMJHL)

Draft#:45 *
Mattias Havelid
Ht/Wt:5' 9"/165 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Linkoping HC J20 (SWE)

Draft#:46 *
Seamus Casey
Ht/Wt:5'10"/173 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: US NTDP

Draft#:50
Christian Kyrou
Ht/Wt:5'10"/172 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Erie (OHL)

Draft#:53 *
Tristan Luneau
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/189 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Gatineau (QMJHL)

Draft#:55 *
Elias Salomonsson
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/183 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Skellefteå AIK J20 (SWE)




manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 10:11 PM ET
They should get all futures. RHD with top 4 potential/pedigree, C with top 6 potential and a draft pick would be a huge win. Think 3-4 years from now instead of this season.
- 1970vintage

Who knows what those futures will turn into and what the team might look like in 3-4 years. I'd look for the right parts, which I think is what Van just trying to get too many of them all at once.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 13 @ 10:13 PM ET
All hindsight now, not having a 2nd in the draft hurt. Below all RHD.


Draft#:37 *
Ryan Chesley
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/201 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: US NTDP

Draft#:42
Noah Warren
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/224 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Gatineau (QMJHL)

Draft#:45 *
Mattias Havelid
Ht/Wt:5' 9"/165 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Linkoping HC J20 (SWE)

Draft#:46 *
Seamus Casey
Ht/Wt:5'10"/173 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: US NTDP

Draft#:50
Christian Kyrou
Ht/Wt:5'10"/172 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Erie (OHL)

Draft#:53 *
Tristan Luneau
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/189 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Gatineau (QMJHL)

Draft#:55 *
Elias Salomonsson
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/183 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Skellefteå AIK J20 (SWE)

- VanHockeyGuy


I’d still push for Dobson straight across. Hall for Larson
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 13 @ 10:14 PM ET
I would say make trades that allow you to make other trades then.
- manvanfan


It sure does seem like a Winger is gonna go.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 10:14 PM ET
All hindsight now, not having a 2nd in the draft hurt. Below all RHD.


Draft#:37 *
Ryan Chesley
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/201 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: US NTDP

Draft#:42
Noah Warren
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/224 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Gatineau (QMJHL)

Draft#:45 *
Mattias Havelid
Ht/Wt:5' 9"/165 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Linkoping HC J20 (SWE)

Draft#:46 *
Seamus Casey
Ht/Wt:5'10"/173 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: US NTDP

Draft#:50
Christian Kyrou
Ht/Wt:5'10"/172 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Erie (OHL)

Draft#:53 *
Tristan Luneau
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/189 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Gatineau (QMJHL)

Draft#:55 *
Elias Salomonsson
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/183 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Skellefteå AIK J20 (SWE)

- VanHockeyGuy

Van picked Jett Woo early 2nd and that hasn't turned out so great so far.
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