It's hurt them this off-season. I don't know any other way to spin that.
- Lunaion

Meh.

If you're talking about Matt Murray, OK. I really don't think they actually went after anyone else. I think they got who they wanted in FA.

Im curious what attendance will look like opening week/month. Mainly wanna know if the ELC guys are enough of a draw for people. Not talking about what their projected impact is, just solely based hype or whatever.
- Michael Ghofrani

I bet they get decent numbers until the first 5 game losing streak

Meh.

If you're talking about Matt Murray, OK. I really don't think they actually went after anyone else. I think they got who they wanted in FA.
- Powerslave

Don't believe the Gibson report?

Yes, Joker is the guy I would look to move, pair Jognson with Fitz, let Bryson be 7th D as he too can play both sides.

I would have to assume Joker would have some value.
Add in 2023 1st and 1 of the Centers in Mitts/Cozens/Krebs.
IMO, that's one hell of a start to a package for a true line driving 1C.
- IonSabres

2Cs barely even get moved
What 1C do u think could be available??

Who are "people"? As we discussed yesterday, there may have been 5 signings that people wish we had made. We are building and by definition that means that our players are going to be young/cheap.
- Slump Buster

trade casey, sign copp

instant upgrade for 4 years

cole for a year is an upgrade over bryson

domi would have been a nice addition

I could go on, at some point it's a numbers game with the big club and with all that cap space it would not have hurt to have parted ways with a few guys and rearrange the chairs so to speak

at some point if this is going to work, you can't just stand pat and overpay your own because they want to be here

Zegras, Lundell, and Jarvis all look the part of a second line player

unlike Cozens
- homiedclown

21year old Cozens?

Come on man
The overwhelming majority of players- even good players- don’t light the world on fire in their 1st full NHL seasons

If that’s what you’re expecting, you’re gonna wanna get rid of everyone

2Cs barely even get moved
What 1C do u think could be available??
- jdfitz77

copp, trocheck and strome all signed between 5 and 5.6 per yesterday

all 3 would have been an upgrade on this roster

Dell
San Jose

Js dea
Arizona

21year old Cozens?

Come on man
The overwhelming majority of players- even good players- don’t light the world on fire in their 1st full NHL seasons

If that’s what you’re expecting, you’re gonna wanna get rid of everyone
- jdfitz77

derek roy looked miles better in his second season as a sabre then our top 10 guys in casey and cozens

trade casey, sign copp

instant upgrade for 4 years

cole for a year is an upgrade over bryson

domi would have been a nice addition

I could go on, at some point it's a numbers game with the big club and with all that cap space it would not have hurt to have parted ways with a few guys and rearrange the chairs so to speak

at some point if this is going to work, you can't just stand pat and overpay your own because they want to be here
- homiedclown

What makes u assume ANY of those guys would’ve even considered coming here?

We aren’t the most attractive place for free agents

What makes u assume ANY of those guys would’ve even considered coming here?

We aren’t the most attractive place for free agents
- jdfitz77

adams didn't even try

that is the part people want to ignore

40 mil in cap space and didn't try to land any upgrades

derek roy looked miles better in his second season as a sabre then our top 10 guys in casey and cozens
- homiedclown

Yes, you’ll be able to point out exceptions
Doesn’t mean EVERY talented young player sets the league on fire right away
MOST do not

Zegras, Lundell, and Jarvis all look the part of a second line player

unlike Cozens
- homiedclown

You really gotta use context... One played with fringe nhlers/3rd liners/4th liners

the other 3 played with actual NHL talent all year long

adams didn't even try

that is the part people want to ignore

40 mil in cap space and didn't try to land any upgrades
- homiedclown

How do you KNOW that?

copp, trocheck and strome all signed between 5 and 5.6 per yesterday

all 3 would have been an upgrade on this roster
- homiedclown

And none would’ve likely considered the Sabres

And none would’ve likely considered the Sabres
- jdfitz77

People always forget its the players choice and not the teams

derek roy looked miles better in his second season as a sabre then our top 10 guys in casey and cozens
- homiedclown

He also played on a significantly better team? You mentioned Zegras before but his analytics are actually slightly worse than cozens last I checked. Zegras' most common linemates were Rakell and Milano. Cozens' were Krebs and hinostroza, closely followed by Murray and Okposo.

Down the stretch, when he got a chance between skinner and tuch, his on ice impacts were higher than anything zegras did this year.

He also played on a significantly better team? You mentioned Zegras before but his analytics are actually slightly worse than cozens last I checked. Zegras' most common linemates were Rakell and Milano. Cozens' were Krebs and hinostroza, closely followed by Murray and Okposo.

Down the stretch, when he got a chance between skinner and tuch, his on ice impacts were higher than anything zegras did this year.
- Michael Ghofrani

Homie was better when he was a glass half full kinda dood the other day.

Hes had some low points today for sure.

Yes, you’ll be able to point out exceptions
Doesn’t mean EVERY talented young player sets the league on fire right away
MOST do not
- jdfitz77

If cozens and casey are so great why did adams take 3 centers thursday

People always forget its the players choice and not the teams

- DirtyDan

Right?!

Adams TRIED to bring in Murray & Gibson through trade- both said “no”

No reason to think that just Copp, or Gaudreau, or whoever, wanted to come here

Im sure Adams has been in touch with all the player agents,
to find out who actually would consider us,
and then narrowed down the guys he’d wanna target from there

We did ok yesterday
Not great
But we reasonably accomplished what we should’ve wanted to do

If cozens and casey are so great why did adams take 3 centers thursday
- homiedclown

Bc we had none in our pipeline

Also, i NEVER SAID Cozens & Mitts are “SO GREAT”
Did i?

Answer how you KNOW that Adams didn’t try to “do anything”
Even though he did do things

People always forget its the players choice and not the teams

- DirtyDan

30 mil cap space

Johnny just took less money to play in buffalo west


If this culture is so great they could have landed more the.a 28 year old rookie goalie and a bottom pair d mab with 30 mil

The flip side of the coin is the Sabres are enamored with a nearly wash up player...manifesting itself into a are they seriously trying to get better thought.

Apparently a popular player, but one who's production isn't significant.
By far, he isnt the biggest problem on the team. I just wouldn't bring him back next season.
They can and must do better.
- IonSabres

Sadly , girgensons ride will probably end at the deadline this season. We're going to get a good pick and everyone will be talking about how great KA did in the trade. He's exactly what playoff teams would look at. Ufa and cheap grinder...

The defense is really excellent. I'm excited, and they are youngsters....

30 mil cap space

Johnny just took less money to play in buffalo west


If this culture is so great they could have landed more the.a 28 year old rookie goalie and a bottom pair d mab with 30 mil
- homiedclown

Cap space is irrelevant if the players don't wanna come here.

I'm on capfriendly all the time I know how much space we have

Bc we had none in our pipeline

Also, i NEVER SAID Cozens & Mitts are “SO GREAT”
Did i?

Answer how you KNOW that Adams didn’t try to “do anything”
Even though he did do things
- jdfitz77

Its easy to make excuses why we cant do anything

Red wings sens and c bus found a way