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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:30 PM ET
Norris $7.95 x 8
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:38 PM ET
Maybe this is another reason that Connor Brown was moved.



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Sens Development Coach Jesse Winchester: Greig is gonna be knocking on the door, hopefully forcing some tough decisions
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:43 PM ET
Norris $7.95 x 8
- spatso


A 3rd year player who hasn't played close to a full season yet making that? That's basically Johnny G. term and money for what so far is 90 points in 125 games, and only one 30+ goal season.

I hope for the Sens sake it ends up being a good signing down the road and they read their tea leaves correctly, but he should by all rights be making closer to Jake Guentzel money, if even that at this point in his career.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jul 14 @ 4:45 PM ET
Norris $7.95 x 8
- spatso


Glad to see!

It remains to be seen if he can keep up the same production, his shooting % was quite high last year, but I think he can still be a solid second line center regardless.

He could even continue to improve.

Either way, long term signing of a young player. More optimism has been needed for a long time.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:50 PM ET
A 3rd year player who hasn't played close to a full season yet making that? That's basically Johnny G. term and money for what so far is 90 points in 125 games, and only one 30+ goal season.

I hope for the Sens sake it ends up being a good signing down the road and they read their tea leaves correctly, but he should by all rights be making closer to Jake Guentzel money, if even that at this point in his career.

- NJPensfan


The new NHL, you pay players for what they can do for you now. Shrinking money for retirement contracts.
SensFan25
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
Nice to see Norris locked up for 8 years at $8M per. Very fair contract for a 1A/1B centerman. It will look really good in 2 to 3 years when the salary cap goes over $90M.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
Blog updated, with D rumours....sorry been at work all day, just getting online now!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
A 3rd year player who hasn't played close to a full season yet making that? That's basically Johnny G. term and money for what so far is 90 points in 125 games, and only one 30+ goal season.

I hope for the Sens sake it ends up being a good signing down the road and they read their tea leaves correctly, but he should by all rights be making closer to Jake Guentzel money, if even that at this point in his career.

- NJPensfan


Well said!
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 14 @ 5:00 PM ET
50k more a year than Suzuki, exactly the amount i though he was gonna get
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 14 @ 5:03 PM ET
Blog updated, with D rumours....sorry been at work all day, just getting online now!
- Kevin Francis


Hard for me to get excited by Klingburg.

We believe they need a shut down type of guy to partner with Chabot or similar combination to offer a more stable defensive effort. Not sure how adding another offensive player would contribute to that need.
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

Jul 14 @ 5:05 PM ET
A 3rd year player who hasn't played close to a full season yet making that? That's basically Johnny G. term and money for what so far is 90 points in 125 games, and only one 30+ goal season.

I hope for the Sens sake it ends up being a good signing down the road and they read their tea leaves correctly, but he should by all rights be making closer to Jake Guentzel money, if even that at this point in his career.

- NJPensfan


I wonder how Drake Batherson feels about this deal?
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jul 14 @ 5:06 PM ET
Norris $7.95 x 8
- spatso



I would've been happy with a few less but under 8 is alright. Now he has to go out and score 30g+ 65p+
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:08 PM ET
I think the Norris contract is a bit of an overpayment. While he played well last year, he's a bit one-dimensional and once teams know to cover that one-timer, he will need to expend his skill palette.

However, having 2 solidified power play units could help alleviate teams covering one option as the team will have several on both units. I hope he is able to progress upwards and improve his face-off ability.

Bottom line, nice to see him locked up long term. Sens are slowly creeping towards being a cap team. Weird and exciting times!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 14 @ 5:09 PM ET
11M coming off the books next year with gambrell, hamonic, Watson, Holden, talbot contracts ending & phaneuf’s buyout expiring.
HoweHatrick
Joined: 01.02.2014

Jul 14 @ 5:09 PM ET
One thing to remember, so far, the Senators have not lost a single prospect this off season.

They are flush with assets and can easily improve the defence.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 14 @ 5:12 PM ET
Blog updated, with D rumours....sorry been at work all day, just getting online now!
- Kevin Francis


ooof rather they get Weagar over Klingburg...what is it with dorion skipping over the best Ds and going for overhyped ones..
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:14 PM ET
Hard for me to get excited by Klingburg.

We believe they need a shut down type of guy to partner with Chabot or similar combination to offer a more stable defensive effort. Not sure how adding another offensive player would contribute to that need.

- spatso

I tend to agree. I would like to see 2-way option like Weager or Chychrun. I feel those rumours are starting to trail off though.

If Sanderson is seen more has a 2-way, stay at home option, maybe a Sanderson-Klingberg pairing isn't so bad if you have Chabot-Zub and your primary pairing. Would be nice to have an offensive minded, right shot d-man for the power play.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Jul 14 @ 5:14 PM ET
Pierre Dorion is on overdrive right now on TSN! Worth watching, great show too!
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:24 PM ET
Maybe this is another reason that Connor Brown was moved.



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Sens Development Coach Jesse Winchester: Greig is gonna be knocking on the door, hopefully forcing some tough decisions

- spatso

Lost in the shuffle, there are still some solid prospects looking to make some noise like Greig, Thomson, JBD, Sokolov, Soogard, etc. Not saying these guys are NHL locks, but there are guys coming up the ranks that could help solidify the depth of this team. I'm also sure a new name or two will come out of development camp.
sens4life1971
Ottawa Senators
Location: smiths falls, ON
Joined: 02.16.2014

Jul 14 @ 5:41 PM ET
I think the Norris contract is a bit of an overpayment. While he played well last year, he's a bit one-dimensional and once teams know to cover that one-timer, he will need to expend his skill palette.

However, having 2 solidified power play units could help alleviate teams covering one option as the team will have several on both units. I hope he is able to progress upwards and improve his face-off ability.

Bottom line, nice to see him locked up long term. Sens are slowly creeping towards being a cap team. Weird and exciting times!

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

That’s the thing ya can’t have a guy stick on Norris when ya have Stutzle Bath Tkachuk on other side lol
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Jul 14 @ 5:49 PM ET
That’s the thing ya can’t have a guy stick on Norris when ya have Stutzle Bath Tkachuk on other side lol
- sens4life1971


they always seem to forget there are 4 other players on PP for OTT....
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:52 PM ET
That’s the thing ya can’t have a guy stick on Norris when ya have Stutzle Bath Tkachuk on other side lol
- sens4life1971

Good problem to have.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:53 PM ET
they always seem to forget there are 4 other players on PP for OTT....
- Mithos

Good mood today with the signing?
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
Norris $7.95 x 8
- spatso

Well, that's a bit more than I'd hoped (was thinking more like $6.5M-$7M AAV, or else maybe a bridge deal), but they're clearly locking up the core. Feels like there may really be something of an internal $8.0M Chabot "soft-cap" as well, with Norris getting $7.95M AAV, and the fact that Tkachuk had to hold-out to go just ~$0.2M over. We'll have to see how that plays out in terms of RFA negotiations with DeBrincat/Stutzle.
TDBSenatoR
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 09.28.2018

Jul 14 @ 5:56 PM ET
Whether or not the norris contract is a mil or two too much... at least it is done, no holdouts or anything of that nature.

The core is getting locked up but I worry about Bath. Love his play and his contract is easily one of the best value contracts in the league but does anyone have concerns over him and the WCJ team in 17/18?
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