If they can't get JG or Kadri here, who's even left at this point? Phil Kessel?
- Tomahawk

Fletcher has had since AV firing and his press conference where he talked about an aggressive retool to come up with a plan. CF and Comcast/Dave Scott are very ungood at running a hockey team. This has been and continues to be so bad it’s actually amusing.

Nice contract signing Malkin for 4 more years at 35 years old for $6M+
- jd250

What else would the Penguins do?

Brent Burns just got traded. Are you kidding me that there isn’t a market for JVR?

Brent Burns just got traded. Are you kidding me that there isn’t a market for JVR?
- Flyers1218

There is not

Brent Burns just got traded. Are you kidding me that there isn’t a market for JVR?
- Flyers1218

The Sharks did retain 33% but at that figure I would think JVR could be moved.

You’re going to tell me there isn’t a team that wouldn’t want JVR for nothing? 25 goals, $4 million in real dollars, easily traded at the deadline and off the books at the end of the year if kept.

There is legit no risk. The ONLY reason they aren’t making the trade is because they know the Flyers will use the space to sign Gaudreau.

If I was a younger rebuilding team that could get him to be a leader for nothing I’d be all ears.

Like I said, spiteful.
- Flyers1218

If a team wanted him why is he still here?

So the other teams are doing their jobs. They want something in return. /it is smart not spiteful at all

What else would the Penguins do?
- ClaudeFather

There just gonna run that car until the wheels fall off.

Thank god there’s a salary cap. Otherwise we would be a 100 million dollar dumpster fire

Worse than that were the people who kept saying there was a market for JVR w/o sweeteners.



- Tomahawk

There yet may be a market for JVR ... lets wait and see what happens. And what I stated before the DeAngelo trade was that the Flyers are cap compliant right now without making any moves. Obviously if they want to go all in on JG which I don't agree with, they would have to be creative to open up about $10M in cap space.

Fletcher has had since AV firing and his press conference where he talked about an aggressive retool to come up with a plan. CF and Comcast/Dave Scott are very ungood at running a hockey team. This has been and continues to be so bad it’s actually amusing.
- mikeyo27

He’s just a very poor GM. But hey that Harvard education mesmerized Dave Scott.

If a team wanted him why is he still here?

So the other teams are doing their jobs. They want something in return. /it is smart not spiteful at all
- hello it's me 2050

To not help your team so they Flyers can’t get Gaudreau? Good call.

Brent Burns just got traded. Are you kidding me that there isn’t a market for JVR?
- Flyers1218

Brent Burns is an actual 1st-pair defenseman still. And with salary-retained, he makes less than RR.

A $7M 20-goal bottom-six winger is an impossible luxury in a flat cap.

What else would the Penguins do?
- ClaudeFather

I wonder what the reaction would have been if Fletcher signed Malkin to the same deal?

Marchment went to the stars

4x4.5

Per Elliot Friedman

There yet may be a market for JVR ... lets wait and see what happens. And what I stated before the DeAngelo trade was that the Flyers are cap compliant right now without making any moves. Obviously if they want to go all in on JG which I don't agree with, they would have to be creative to open up about $10M in cap space.
- jd250

There is a market for JVR….Elliot Freidman said we teams would take JVR if the Flyers include their 2023 1rst rnd pick….that’s the market.

Brent Burns is an actual 1st-pair defenseman still. And with salary-retained, he makes less than RR.

A $7M 20-goal bottom-six player is an impossible luxury in a flat cap.
- Tomahawk

JVR is only owed $4M this season. The Flyers could easily cover more if they needed to. I get the sense that JVR might be packaged with Provey in a larger trade.

There is a market for JVR….Elliot Freidman said we teams would take JVR if the Flyers include their 2023 1rst rnd pick….that’s the market.
- landros 2

and luckily that is not a starting point

There just gonna run that car until the wheels fall off.
- Sublime55

Exactly

Brent Burns is an actual 1st-pair defenseman still. And with salary-retained, he makes less than RR.

A $7M 20-goal bottom-six winger is an impossible luxury in a flat cap.
- Tomahawk

Brent Burns is a top pair defenseman? You’re being ridiculous.

and luckily that is not a starting point
- jd250

The convo was about moving JVR without any inducements.

Cooper Marody is back apparently

Brent Burns is an actual 1st-pair defenseman still. And with salary-retained, he makes less than RR.

A $7M 20-goal bottom-six winger is an impossible luxury in a flat cap.
- Tomahawk

There are teams he’s top 6 on and he doesn’t affect their cap. It’s one year for 25 goals.

There is a market for JVR….Elliot Freidman said we teams would take JVR if the Flyers include their 2023 1rst rnd pick….that’s the market.
- landros 2

No f’n way….not for one more year of JVR

JVR is only owed $4M this season. The Flyers could easily cover more if they needed to. I get the sense that JVR might be packaged with Provey in a larger trade.
- jd250

A trade to a rebuilding team makes to much sense. It really does. I don’t know why teams care about the Flyers getting Gaudreau.

Brent Burns just got traded. Are you kidding me that there isn’t a market for JVR?
- Flyers1218

Nobody wants JVR. Yes, he has a knack for scoring goals. But he is impossible to fit into a lineup at even strength. No coach wants to deal with that.
Even the bad teams with plenty of cap space realize that taking him from the Flyers is doing them a service, and those teams are going to want to be compensated for that service. It's not some spite-based conspiracy. It's business. And that's how bad of a fit JVR is for today's game.