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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 13 @ 2:42 PM ET

Hey Hey Ho Ho

Chuck the Fletch has got to go.

Hey Hey Ho Ho

We could've had John Gau-dreau
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
Torts has got to be regretting signing with the Flyers already.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
Isn't Zac better? Seriously?
- RustyPipes


Didn't ZackMack get QO'd? Our L4 will feature both of them I'd wager.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
This sure doesn't seem like a Homer/Clarke move at all.
- Tomahawk

It's been made clear the don't have any input.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
Bill,

Is there a presser by the team after free agency? Like can anyone ask what the hell the plan is as fans have no clue what they are trying to do?

How do fans rally behind a team with no direction. The returning players are not enough to compete with the top teams as currently constructed.
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
Maybe Chuck is just lowering expectations before making the big splash to the applause of all us fans.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
you put a lot of stock in Jfresh Hockey, I wonder how much NHL teams do?
- jd250


The data isn't his, he just makes pretty pictures.

And NHL teams do player modeling just like this. Some obviously better than others lol.


Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
Here is the issue. The credit was there for the taking. I think the reasons you gave for why a player might sign somewhere made sense. Other sources corroborated it. However where you went wrong was calling it for more than it was. Such as Gaudreau was a done deal for the Flyers. You did not have that information and you know it. He wanted to play for Philly. His wife wanted to stay here but it was not a done deal.
- MJL



I’m sorry did jg sign somewhere else? Maybe philly needs to move more cap $? I stand 100% by what I said.


Same as I stood by what I was told I regards to cc

Actually jg not signing yet speaks volumes. Obviously it’s philly deal.

Actions my good man follow the actions

I didn’t go wrong anywhere. Merely stated what I was told. Believe or don’t matters not to me.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
It's been made clear the don't have any input.
- rayc16


Clearly
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
Charlie O'Connor
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Assuming that Ellis isn't going to be ready for 2022-23, they needed a third-pair RHD, so I guess Braun's the guy.

Nic Deslauriers is the classic "Flyers Culture" add. He hits and fights a lot. 5v5 liability.

- Deasr1

If Ellis is ready: Ellis/Provy, Sanheim/RR, Braun/TDA? I have no idea about the ND signing. What's that for. A young guy couldn't win that spot?
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
Is this team (frank)ing serious? Are you (frank)ing kidding me.

Aggressive retool gave you this? (frank)ing Justin Braun and a useless fighter!? Are you (frank)ing kidding me?

Sell every (frank)ing player with value and then sell the (frank)ing team.

(frank) you, Flyers
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
I’m sorry did jg sign somewhere else? Maybe philly needs to move more cap $? I stand 100% by what I said.


Same as I stood by what I was told I regards to cc

Actually jg not signing yet speaks volumes. Obviously it’s philly deal.

Actions my good man follow the actions

I didn’t go wrong anywhere. Merely stated what I was told. Believe or don’t matters not to me.

- Stayin alive


To be fair, this is Chuck Fletcher shooting himself in the face the way he has handled JG. Everyone knew he wanted to come home and he prepared for it by giving 5mil to DeAngelo.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jul 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
This Chick Fletcher injecting the Flyers with a lethal dose to destroy his creation?

Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
To be fair, this is Chuck Fletcher shooting himself in the face the way he has handled JG. Everyone knew he wanted to come home and he prepared for it by giving 5mil to DeAngelo.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

He should be fired. Not tomorrow, not after breakfast, NOW.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
Nic Deslauriers is the classic "Flyers Culture" add. He hits and fights a lot. 5v5 liability. And Braun sucks! Again what is the plan here?? This is a listless ship, just taking roster spots away from younger players that if ready could take the year developing in the NHL! Unless the goal is to tank for Bedard .. then I am all in!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
Good luck explaining this one Bill
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
Is this team (frank)ing serious? Are you (frank)ing kidding me.

Aggressive retool gave you this? (frank)ing Justin Braun and a useless fighter!? Are you (frank)ing kidding me?

Sell every (frank)ing player with value and then sell the (frank)ing team.

(frank) you, Flyers

- Flyers1218

Braun was resigned to get a draft pick back at the TDL.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
Surprised Oskar got 2.5.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
Guess we are just throwing darts at a dart board now ?
- jmdodgeser4

It certainly seems that way .. what is the plan here?
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
DeAngelo, Deslauriers, and Braun for 9 mil

Or

JG for 9mil

Which do you pick?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
Surprised Oskar got 2.5.
- Peter Richards


Supposedly a lot of teams were after him.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
Just have to laugh at this point. High comedy. What makes it laugh-so-hard-you-can't-breathe funny is that they think these are good roster moves.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
Nic Deslauriers is the classic "Flyers Culture" add. He hits and fights a lot. 5v5 liability. And Braun sucks! Again what is the plan here?? This is a listless ship, just taking roster spots away from younger players that if ready could take the year developing in the NHL! Unless the goal is to tank for Bedard .. then I am all in!
- jd250

Really? He's still a good 3rd pairing Dman. Rangers who went far last year thought so too.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
Torts has got to be regretting signing with the Flyers already.
- Letterkenney

I was just thinking the same thing .. he must be kicking himself.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
Comcast needs to sell this team ASAP. Will garbage ticket sales for the upcoming season make them entertain the idea?
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