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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:39 PM ET
Do you think that’s what’s happening? I was wondering about this. I doubt chuck would have a press conference while still working on it. He’s most likely going to have the conference to say why he couldn’t get it done.
- Hextall271

Or they bring out Johnny Hockey and announce the signing.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jul 13 @ 4:39 PM ET
When was the last time that we had an exciting FA day?! It feels like we've been capped out or crapped out when it's FA time
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Incredible isn't. They're so bad and so incompetent that they made PLindbegh31 right!
- MJL


This isn't even "process" bad where they at least tried to be bad for a reason. This is bad because we don't know what the (frank) we are doing bad.

I try to hold out hope but I can't anymore. Aggressive retool, ok do it. Rebuild, ok do it.

Do nothing resembling any plan? Worst spot you can be in.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Or they bring out Johnny Hockey and announce the signing.
- furio16


Would've leaked by now
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Officially out lmao
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Do you think that’s what’s happening? I was wondering about this. I doubt chuck would have a press conference while still working on it. He’s most likely going to have the conference to say why he couldn’t get it done.
- Hextall271


Until he signs somewhere else there’s no reason to think the flyers aren’t cooking something up.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:41 PM ET
Incredible isn't. They're so bad and so incompetent that they made PLindbegh31 right!
- MJL

They did.

Plus seeing you so down on the team is very telling as well.

Frankly, I’m done. Or I say I am (as I watch every game).

The Flyers were supposed to be that team that kept me sane. Now, I’ve got Uncle Stevie and the Mets as the most functional team I root for…. think about that for a second.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
Would've leaked by now
- Scoob

I was kidding.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
I was kidding.
- furio16



:-)
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
They did.

Plus seeing you so down on the team is very telling as well.

Frankly, I’m done. Or I say I am (as I watch every game).

The Flyers were supposed to be that team that kept me sane. Now, I’ve got Uncle Stevie and the Mets as the most functional team I root for…. think about that for a second.

- Flyers1218


I'm literally sick to my stomach. This is a franchise that has blinders on to how bad they really are. How incompetent their management is all the way up to Dave Scott. I have to at least be entertained. If they lose but have some excitement and the possibility of a future. I'd be fine with that. With every off season, they just extend the misery further and further.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
Any link yet for the presser? This is comedy gold and I don't want to miss this.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
This isn't even "process" bad where they at least tried to be bad for a reason. This is bad because we don't know what the (frank) we are doing bad.

I try to hold out hope but I can't anymore. Aggressive retool, ok do it. Rebuild, ok do it.

Do nothing resembling any plan? Worst spot you can be in.

- J35Bacher



Exactly….your aggressive retool is to bring in TDA and roll back with Braun and sign a ‘goon” for 4 years?

But let’s stay away from a guy who’s an elite talent and actually wants to play in Philly.

It’s beyond laughable at this point with the lack of direction this team has. The (frank)ing moron talked about how the Flyers needed more elite talent….here’s a guy gift rapped for ya that won’t cost a bot load of assets and he can get it across the finish line.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
Ok here’s what jg wife said …

Philly had trade holding at draft tk to ottawa.

Ottawa backed out when landing the cat.

Philly trying to move salary without buyout of Jvr to fit jg

They still have deal. Jg WILL be a flyer. They’re just waiting for the moves to be made that’s why not announced.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
Exactly….your aggressive retool is to bring in TDA and roll back with Braun and sign a ‘goon” for 4 years?

But let’s stay away from a guy who’s an elite talent and actually wants to play in Philly.

It’s beyond laughable at this point with the lack of direction this team has. The (frank)ing moron talked about how the Flyers needed more elite talent….here’s a guy gift rapped for ya that won’t cost a bot load of assets and he can get it across the finish line.

- landros 2

It really is a termination offense.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
I'm literally sick to my stomach. This is a franchise that has blinders on to how bad they really are. How incompetent their management is all the way up to Dave Scott. I have to at least be entertained. If they lose but have some excitement and the possibility of a future. I'd be fine with that. With every off season, they just extend the misery further and further.
- MJL

I won’t lie, I didn’t watch them most of last season. It was Nutter that spoke about apathy and how turning your biggest fans apathetic was the worst thing that could happen.

Now, with the Gaudreau news, whether the individual fan wanted him or not, is furious that they didn’t get him. Not because the team didn’t want him, but because they mismanaged things so badly they couldn’t get him.

I think angry, legitimately angry fans, is worse then apathy. They won’t get a cent of my money until things dramatically change.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
No doubt about it. Shows a complete lack of proper cap management skills. Chasing his own tail.

Good to see you post again.

- MJL

But where is that obnoxious Philly Sports Guy? PSG ⚽️
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
Ok here’s what jg wife said …

Philly had trade holding at draft tk to ottawa.

Ottawa backed out when landing the cat.

Philly trying to move salary without buyout of Jvr to fit jg

They still have deal. Jg WILL be a flyer. They’re just waiting for the moves to be made that’s why not announced.

- Stayin alive

I love your optimism. Give it up dude. It’s dead.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
Any link yet for the presser? This is comedy gold and I don't want to miss this.
- StepfordSam


Here you go
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
Ok here’s what jg wife said …

Philly had trade holding at draft tk to ottawa.

Ottawa backed out when landing the cat.

Philly trying to move salary without buyout of Jvr to fit jg

They still have deal. Jg WILL be a flyer. They’re just waiting for the moves to be made that’s why not announced.

- Stayin alive


Lol wut
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
OK, just got home from the doc and was out of touch for a few hours. I see that Nic Deslauriers and Braun were signed.

Ok I think, there is your vet d to play with York on the 3rd pair. Ok, I can live with that. Chuck gonna Chuck.

Then I see that Deslauriers is signed for 4(!) years and almost chuck my lunch.

I guess that means no Zac attack.....
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
It really is a termination offense.
- Sinisalo4vr



Yes. To me he had last summer to attempt to right the ship. He failed….it’s not like he’s done anything this time around that will lead to a different result. It just shows he doesn’t have the ability to lead this team. Another poop show to follow this upcoming this season.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
Is there actually a press conference? I need to hear this
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
Here you go
- Tomahawk

Thank you
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
If that’s what they’re doing, so be it. I think much of the fan base would accept that course of action…but then come out and say it.
- Sublime55


I think the fan base FULLY see’s this team is no better then a team that was a laughing stock bottom feeder.
- landros 2


The paying fanbase =/ the Flyers HB base. 75% of the people who go to a given game will not be able to name the roster, imo.

If Comcast was willing to take the long view, they would not have sold the Sixers. My suspicion is that they have an internal revenue floor, Covid has hit them hard, and it is extremely important to Dave Scott that Flyers appear like they are always spending, trying to do something, not tanking etc etc. so they don't seem like they are in the midst of a rebuild. I believe they cannot afford to "say it" because the paying fanbase will tune out. Every time I see that guy, he emphasizes they are committed to the short term ("2-3 players away", "cap team", "retool" etc etc)

I think CF understands he doesn't have the mandate to rebuild. He has to fill seats and last season's attendance figures cannot be repeated. He is playing with a really limited hand and the moves you see are an outcome of that. He is gambling.

We will see, I suppose.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
I'm literally sick to my stomach. This is a franchise that has blinders on to how bad they really are. How incompetent their management is all the way up to Dave Scott. I have to at least be entertained. If they lose but have some excitement and the possibility of a future. I'd be fine with that. With every off season, they just extend the misery further and further.
- MJL


There is no reason this franchise should not have a plan. NO REASON. It's a proud franchise with a loyal fan base in a major market. They should not look like this. It is embarrassing that they look like this right now.
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