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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
Ok here’s what jg wife said …

Philly had trade holding at draft tk to ottawa.

Ottawa backed out when landing the cat.

Philly trying to move salary without buyout of Jvr to fit jg

They still have deal. Jg WILL be a flyer. They’re just waiting for the moves to be made that’s why not announced.

- Stayin alive



I hope she calls Pierre Lebrun because he just said Flyers are out of it….
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 4:57 PM ET
Can I get a link ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
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I think CF understands he doesn't have the mandate to rebuild. He has to fill seats and last season's attendance figures cannot be repeated. He is playing with a really limited hand and the moves you see are an outcome of that. He is gambling.

We will see, I suppose.

- PT21


So you think the moves being made this off season is his idea to fill the seats? I'm not sure who the dumber one is.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
Wonder how they're going to spin this off-season at the next press conference. You know they're going to try and make it sound like positives came out of this.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
Ok here’s what jg wife said …

Philly had trade holding at draft tk to ottawa.

Ottawa backed out when landing the cat.

Philly trying to move salary without buyout of Jvr to fit jg

They still have deal. Jg WILL be a flyer. They’re just waiting for the moves to be made that’s why not announced.

- Stayin alive



Dude, the Flyers just signed two depth players and added more cap space.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:03 PM ET
Lol wut
- Wingdestroyer



My friends wife called her about 2pm asked her what’s going on?

Joked she should could come to buffalo that we have great hospitals.

Jg wife told her about the trade for tk to ottawa and how ottawa backed out because they never thought they’d land adb. I guess g wanted tk in ottawa according to her.

Flyers in constant touch letting jg know every step of the way what’s going on. He understands it’s on hold because they’d be over the 10% allowance. Philly let him know of some other moves in advance

My guess they will just buyout Jvr if they have too.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 5:04 PM ET
My friends wife called her about 2pm asked her what’s going on?

Joked she should could come to buffalo that we have great hospitals.

Jg wife told her about the trade for tk to ottawa and how ottawa backed out because they never thought they’d land adb. I guess g wanted tk in ottawa according to her.

Flyers in constant touch letting jg know every step of the way what’s going on. He understands it’s on hold because they’d be over the 10% allowance. Philly let him know of some other moves in advance

My guess they will just buyout Jvr if they have too.

- Stayin alive

Sooo you’re saying it’s still on 😂
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:05 PM ET
The paying fanbase =/ the Flyers HB base. 75% of the people who go to a given game will not be able to name the roster, imo.

If Comcast was willing to take the long view, they would not have sold the Sixers. My suspicion is that they have an internal revenue floor, Covid has hit them hard, and it is extremely important to Dave Scott that Flyers appear like they are always spending, trying to do something, not tanking etc etc. so they don't seem like they are in the midst of a rebuild. I believe they cannot afford to "say it" because the paying fanbase will tune out. Every time I see that guy, he emphasizes they are committed to the short term ("2-3 players away", "cap team", "retool" etc etc)

I think CF understands he doesn't have the mandate to rebuild. He has to fill seats and last season's attendance figures cannot be repeated. He is playing with a really limited hand and the moves you see are an outcome of that. He is gambling.

We will see, I suppose.

- PT21



If that was the case they would roll out Attard and Allison and not sign and vastly overpay vets. Let the kids cut their teeth in NHL if you want to tank….none of those signings did anything to help the Flyers tank…absolutely nothing.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 13 @ 5:06 PM ET
My friends wife called her about 2pm asked her what’s going on?

Joked she should could come to buffalo that we have great hospitals.

Jg wife told her about the trade for tk to ottawa and how ottawa backed out because they never thought they’d land adb. I guess g wanted tk in ottawa according to her.

Flyers in constant touch letting jg know every step of the way what’s going on. He understands it’s on hold because they’d be over the 10% allowance. Philly let him know of some other moves in advance

My guess they will just buyout Jvr if they have too.

- Stayin alive



It wont be enough. They still need to sign Tippett and Frost. And will have to clear space once Farabee returns. I will give you that Ellis out out indefinitely.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:06 PM ET
I hope she calls Pierre Lebrun because he just said Flyers are out of it….
- landros 2



Again. Just like cc to ottawa no one cares what these morons in media say.


Actions. Always look at the actions



If wife were wrong why is he not signed elsewhere?

Top free agent guy

Multiple offers on table from different teams.


Only 1 possible reason.

The wife’s story makes too much sense to go wrong


Kinda like my cousin who’s realtor company is working with g and wife and people doubted.

Jg WILL be a flyer. Good or bad
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Jul 13 @ 5:07 PM ET
At least with the Deslauriers, and Braun signings, Chuck is fulfilling all three parts of his mandate. Deslauriers fulfills the aggressive, and tool parts. Braun fulfills the "re"-signed part.

Success!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 5:07 PM ET
Ok here’s what jg wife said …

Philly had trade holding at draft tk to ottawa.

Ottawa backed out when landing the cat.

Philly trying to move salary without buyout of Jvr to fit jg

They still have deal. Jg WILL be a flyer. They’re just waiting for the moves to be made that’s why not announced.

- Stayin alive


all of this is possible, JG is in no hurry but it is just as possible he is now looking over the other offers with a closer look, knowing the Flyers are horribly. Signing an enforcer maybe that is if Johnny G but it is all a long shot. Do you have direct access JG wife? I mean was this an update from a couple of hours ago?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
OK, just got home from the doc and was out of touch for a few hours. I see that Nic Deslauriers and Braun were signed.

Ok I think, there is your vet d to play with York on the 3rd pair. Ok, I can live with that. Chuck gonna Chuck.

Then I see that Deslauriers is signed for 4(!) years and almost chuck my lunch.

I guess that means no Zac attack.....

- MBFlyerfan


The media in Minny was clamoring for Guerin to sign DLo. They said he has a fun personality and is good in the locker room in addition to he hits ‘more than Foligno’. Maybe Fletcher fell for that.

Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
It wont be enough. They still need to sign Tippett and Frost. And will have to clear space once Farabee returns. I will give you that Ellis out out indefinitely.
- MBFlyerfan

Ellis is done. He won’t be on team at start. You bury $ on paper in ahl. Day 1 you place Ellis on ltir then move paper and call up. Very easy to do.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
My friends wife called her about 2pm asked her what’s going on?

Joked she should could come to buffalo that we have great hospitals.

Jg wife told her about the trade for tk to ottawa and how ottawa backed out because they never thought they’d land adb. I guess g wanted tk in ottawa according to her.

Flyers in constant touch letting jg know every step of the way what’s going on. He understands it’s on hold because they’d be over the 10% allowance. Philly let him know of some other moves in advance

My guess they will just buyout Jvr if they have too.

- Stayin alive



A buyout of JVR doesn't even get them half way there!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
Ellis is done. He won’t be on team at start. You bury $ on paper in ahl. Day 1 you place Ellis on ltir then move paper and call up. Very easy to do.
- Stayin alive



You have no clue of the Flyers cap position.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
The paying fanbase =/ the Flyers HB base. 75% of the people who go to a given game will not be able to name the roster, imo.

If Comcast was willing to take the long view, they would not have sold the Sixers. My suspicion is that they have an internal revenue floor, Covid has hit them hard, and it is extremely important to Dave Scott that Flyers appear like they are always spending, trying to do something, not tanking etc etc. so they don't seem like they are in the midst of a rebuild. I believe they cannot afford to "say it" because the paying fanbase will tune out. Every time I see that guy, he emphasizes they are committed to the short term ("2-3 players away", "cap team", "retool" etc etc)

I think CF understands he doesn't have the mandate to rebuild. He has to fill seats and last season's attendance figures cannot be repeated. He is playing with a really limited hand and the moves you see are an outcome of that. He is gambling.

We will see, I suppose.

- PT21


The Flyers are a very small part of the global Comcast umbrella. Not sure 100% just my opinion.

The Flyers are their toy to an extent. Not so sure profits are the main goal in a way for this venture.

Paying fan base has a higher chance to tune out a no plan to improve than a rebuild.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
A buyout of JVR doesn't even get them half way there!
- MJL

They're definitely living on a prayer.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
You have no clue of the Flyers cap position.
- MJL

Only team worse than them is Vegas.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 13 @ 5:11 PM ET
https://twitter.com/frank...7jt_8CDBggMLYJHjDLCw&s=19

Wow
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 5:11 PM ET
They're definitely living on a prayer.
- rayc16


O my
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:11 PM ET
Sooo you’re saying it’s still on 😂
- ClaudeFather

I’m saying it’s a done deal.
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 5:12 PM ET
My friends wife called her about 2pm asked her what’s going on?

Joked she should could come to buffalo that we have great hospitals.

Jg wife told her about the trade for tk to ottawa and how ottawa backed out because they never thought they’d land adb. I guess g wanted tk in ottawa according to her.

Flyers in constant touch letting jg know every step of the way what’s going on. He understands it’s on hold because they’d be over the 10% allowance. Philly let him know of some other moves in advance

My guess they will just buyout Jvr if they have too.

- Stayin alive

I dont think buying out JVR nets them enough space though
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:12 PM ET
Again. Just like cc to ottawa no one cares what these morons in media say.


Actions. Always look at the actions



If wife were wrong why is he not signed elsewhere?

Top free agent guy

Multiple offers on table from different teams.


Only 1 possible reason.

The wife’s story makes too much sense to go wrong


Kinda like my cousin who’s realtor company is working with g and wife and people doubted.

Jg WILL be a flyer. Good or bad

- Stayin alive


I could see a reason why the Flyers are laying low….but the only ointment in the scenario is Fletcher…and his inability to do something good.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 5:13 PM ET
O my
- wcorvette

I'll leave now
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