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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
You really are a special type sometimes. What a team spent has nothing to do with going over cap in July. Which you claim no team would do.

Give it up.

You are wrong

Just say hey it doesn’t happen often and philly shouldn’t do it.

Or it would be hard to even hit the overage allowance.

Something.

But trying to say jg is a problem because cap in July and buyout of Jvr wouldn’t be enough is wrong

You know it

Everyone knows it.

Just admit it and move on

- Stayin alive


You have a reading comprehension issue and you have no understanding of the cap.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
Source?
- Sinisalo4vr


JGs wife ofc
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
Yes, they are absolutely incompetent and I am not defending the moves. If this is all we do, you'd think everyone would be happy as unless everyone is healthy, the current team will not be contenders and we will have a better pick next year. I agree with what Bill said and many others have said on here about long term deals, big contracts, etc. I preferred that we just stand pat but I'm not going to lose my mind over a 4th liner and 3rd pair d-man.
- Don Nachbaur

They tried to get the big fish that is what’s funny. That is what many are mocking I think. It wasn’t by design they signed fringe players.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
Out of context.
- MJL


Just to clarify, by out of context you mean exactly what we were discussing?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 13 @ 5:47 PM ET
All 3 for a hundred each?
- furio16


No, I pay MJL (or you) $100 if I am wrong on any one of those 3. If I am right on all 3, the other party pays me.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Jul 13 @ 5:47 PM ET
Can’t sign the best free agent that wants to come here? This is quite possibly the worst time in Flyer history. It just goes to show that we have a roster filled with untradable contracts to average players. Cap mismanagement is a huge reason this team blows and will continue to blow for years to come.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 13 @ 5:47 PM ET
JGs wife ofc
- Tomahawk

As good as any on Ellis I suppose.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:48 PM ET
so CF saying they are out, is him playing the market?
- wcorvette

Jg supposedly offer up to 12 mil per.

Logically thinking

Gotta be more than philly offering


Yet he STILL hasn’t signed?

Why

If the wife lying that makes ZERO sense.

NO ONE. Leaving big money deal on table.

Where’s jg? On vacation? Sleeping? Playing ping pong?

Until he signs the wife’s story holds water.

I mean if I find out anything else I’ll pass it on. Haven’t heard anything since about 2:30.

Could poop have changed? Sure. I haven’t heard tho. If it does I’m sure I’ll find out. Like I said my good friend wife is good friends with jg wife. Just passing what I hear
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 5:48 PM ET
CF said that?
- PT21


that and he said he was never in on Johnny
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:48 PM ET
You have a reading comprehension issue and you have no understanding of the cap.
- MJL

Yep 👍🏻
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 13 @ 5:49 PM ET
I hate this team and organization, I’m officially a nhl team ufa, I will band wagon jump
Until they’re good enough to root for, I’m going back into my cave now

- mydoglicks


Before you go, could you please finish the sentence that you started with your screen name? Thanks
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:49 PM ET
Just to clarify, by out of context you mean exactly what we were discussing?
- PT21



No it wasn't exactly what we were discussing. When were we discussing if Fletcher would still be here in a year?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:50 PM ET
There’s no bidding war with the Islanders and Devils. He’s not going to live in NY.

If the Devils then were the only team actually with that huge offer it would have happened by now.

You don’t turn down that kind of money from a winning team like Calgary just to end up in North Jersey.

Chuck was pissed in that presser because the TK deal fell through and now has to find another way to fit JG. He will make it happen and buyout JVR but that wasn’t the original plan.

Why hasn’t Johnny signed anywhere yet?

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 5:51 PM ET
that and he said he was never in on Johnny
- wcorvette


Obviously he's obfuscating and is up to something BIG!









(Zack MacEwan extension imminent!)
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:51 PM ET
that and he said he was never in on Johnny
- wcorvette

Now that is funny.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 5:51 PM ET
so it is possible CF is doing what we want him to, just riding the hand he has and letting the chips fall where they may?
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:51 PM ET
Not doing crazy is good.
Doing wtf! is not good.

- Scoob


Lol I agree that the moves were pointless but Braun as a depth guy doesn't bother me. Not sure why they signed Nic D. They don't seem to have any plan and that is worrisome.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jul 13 @ 5:51 PM ET
Can’t sign the best free agent that wants to come here? This is quite possibly the worst time in Flyer history. It just goes to show that we have a roster filled with untradable contracts to average players. Cap mismanagement is a huge reason this team blows and will continue to blow for years to come.
- darkerens


Conversely the flyers did exactly what they should have which was not give a 28 year old winger 70 mill.

I mean did anyone really thing that was a good idea?

Why would anyone be unhappy about that?

70 mill. No thanks
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:52 PM ET
Jg supposedly offer up to 12 mil per.

Logically thinking

Gotta be more than philly offering


Yet he STILL hasn’t signed?

Why

If the wife lying that makes ZERO sense.

NO ONE. Leaving big money deal on table.

Where’s jg? On vacation? Sleeping? Playing ping pong?

Until he signs the wife’s story holds water.

I mean if I find out anything else I’ll pass it on. Haven’t heard anything since about 2:30.

Could poop have changed? Sure. I haven’t heard tho. If it does I’m sure I’ll find out. Like I said my good friend wife is good friends with jg wife. Just passing what I hear

- Stayin alive



You're not just passing what you hear. You posted that it was a done deal. Obviously not the case. You blew it.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:52 PM ET
that and he said he was never in on Johnny
- wcorvette


He was cryptic to say the least. Didn’t even want to say the name “Johnny”. We were in on the guys we signed. Strange wording.

If he comes out and says “well we tried but we couldn’t make it happen” that opens up questions about who were you going to love or what were some offers and you don’t want to throw a guy’s name out like that
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 5:53 PM ET
Conversely the flyers did exactly what they should have which was not give a 28 year old winger 70 mill.

I mean did anyone really thing that was a good idea?

Why would anyone be unhappy about that?

70 mill. No thanks

- Joe Nardone

Because the money would actually go to a good players instead of Nic Deslauries and the rest of the plugs we have
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:53 PM ET
Conversely the flyers did exactly what they should have which was not give a 28 year old winger 70 mill.

I mean did anyone really thing that was a good idea?

Why would anyone be unhappy about that?

70 mill. No thanks

- Joe Nardone



Why didn't they Joe? Not because they found better judgement and decided against it. They didn't because they couldn't. They boxed themselves in and couldn't make the deals they mistakenly thought that they could to get the cap space.
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Jul 13 @ 5:55 PM ET
Time to start looking mock drafts for next summer. And thats a good thing. Watch the young kids develop. With any luck the Flyers will be where the Senators are now in 2-3 years...and no I don't mean Ottawa
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 5:55 PM ET
You have a reading comprehension issue and you have no understanding of the cap.
- MJL



Yep. Where is Florida and Vegas at right now capwise? 7/13. July.

Or is my reading comprehension bad and my understanding of language and cap bad

“No team would put themselves millions over the cap in July”
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 5:56 PM ET
Because the money would actually go to a good players instead of Nic Deslauries and the rest of the plugs we have
- ClaudeFather



4 years for a player who is arguably one of the worst players in the NHL.
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