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Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 6:38 PM ET
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 6:39 PM ET
Why should we? This roster is well below average even when entirely healthy
- hereticpride


The bottom line is that they're not going to be good enough offensively. They don't have the defense. The best we can hope for is that Tortorella gets the team game straightened out and they can at least be competitive.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 6:40 PM ET
Why should we? This roster is well below average even when entirely healthy
- hereticpride


NJ adding decent goaltending and possibly Gaudreau... Flyers could be alone in the Metro cellar by a 20-30 point margin.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 13 @ 6:42 PM ET
If you want Fletcher to be gone, today was a very good day. Only a playoff birth can save him.
- Trox88


I understand the point you're trying to make, but the franchise is still in trouble. There's alot of time left between now and the end of next season to make moves, whether it's trading players and draft picks, signing more ridiculous contracts or extensions, scouting assignments (perhaps outside of the usndtp)...and all those senior advisors and special assistants (ie possible replacements) will still remain just waiting in the wings....cause they have Dave Scott's ear just as much as they do Chuck's
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 13 @ 6:43 PM ET
The bottom line is that they're not going to be good enough offensively. They don't have the defense. The best we can hope for is that Tortorella gets the team game straightened out and they can at least be competitive.
- MJL

They haven’t replaced Giroux’s scoring. They are arguably worse defensively with TDA.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 6:43 PM ET
NJ adding decent goaltending and possibly Gaudreau... Flyers could be alone in the Metro cellar by a 20-30 point margin.
- Tomahawk


Fantilli seems good too….FWIW…
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jul 13 @ 6:46 PM ET
Hahahahahahahha and you believe him? Nowwwww you believe cf. oh when it fits your narrative.


Here’s a clue. Don’t believe poop they say

- Stayin alive



I actually want you to be correct in your prediction about JG. As much as many of us disagree with the possible signing itself, at least things would end up making some type of sense.

As it stands, the moves made to clear cap space, and the subsequent signings are simply indefensible. They represent a total lack of direction and understanding of asset/cap management.

As far as Chuck's presser, what is he supposed to say? We all know he's full of poop. If he is actually still in on JG, he HAS to say what he did.

Regardless, it's not going to happen and neither you or your anti-lame alt will talk your way out of this "done deal" you've been spewing.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 13 @ 6:46 PM ET
They haven’t replaced Giroux’s scoring. They are arguably worse defensively with TDA.
- Sinisalo4vr

Oh and last years backup goaltender signed with Seattle.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 6:47 PM ET
The bottom line is that they're not going to be good enough offensively. They don't have the defense. The best we can hope for is that Tortorella gets the team game straightened out and they can at least be competitive.
- MJL

Yup. The only + I can come up with is that DeAngelo can’t be nearly as bad as Yandle was last year.

I don’t know what to expect from Coots returning honestly but they just don’t have the wingers to put with him to make a really formidable 1st line.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 6:47 PM ET
Oh and last years backup goaltender signed with Seattle.
- Sinisalo4vr

Yeah, what could go wrong with Carter Hart being the only real experienced goalie in the organization.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 13 @ 6:48 PM ET
NJ adding decent goaltending and possibly Gaudreau... Flyers could be alone in the Metro cellar by a 20-30 point margin.
- Tomahawk


Easily....The d corps is not one I would consider to be strong defensively, especially that right side (even with the "new additions")....and goaltending will be some combo of Hart, Sandstrom, Ersson (coming off surgery) and Troy Grosenick who they signed today lol. That's a very inexperienced group to say the least
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 13 @ 6:49 PM ET
I actually want you to be correct in your prediction about JG. As much as many of us disagree with the possible signing itself, at least things would end up making some type of sense.

As it stands, the moves made to clear cap space, and the subsequent signings are simply indefensible. They represent a total lack of direction and understanding of asset/cap management.

As far as Chuck's presser, what is he supposed to say? We all know he's full of poop. If he is actually still in on JG, he HAS to say what he did.

Regardless, it's not going to happen and neither you or your anti-lame alt will talk your way out of this "done deal" you've been spewing.

- BenderRodriguez

If they were still in he wouldn’t waste 30 minutes talking to the media. That happens when teams are done.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 13 @ 6:50 PM ET
Yup. The only + I can come up with is that DeAngelo can’t be nearly as bad as Yandle was last year.

I don’t know what to expect from Coots returning honestly but they just don’t have the wingers to put with him to make a really formidable 1st line.

- hereticpride


Well. It’s out there now. 2 g and 6 a with a -70
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jul 13 @ 6:52 PM ET
If they were still in he wouldn’t waste 30 minutes talking to the media. That happens when teams are done.
- Flyers1218


I agree with you 100%.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Jul 13 @ 6:52 PM ET
Totally disagree. Ottawa has a nice y oh no team. With still lots of pieces coming AND TONS of picks still.

Add cat
Add g
Add goalie

This team just became legit

- Stayin alive


🤣
Those picks should be great when CC is 40
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 13 @ 6:53 PM ET
Shut up
- ClaudeFather


I'll echo this. Sh!t with his "wife" and all is getting old.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 6:53 PM ET
They haven’t replaced Giroux’s scoring. They are arguably worse defensively with TDA.
- Sinisalo4vr



The good news. As horrendously bad as DeAngelo is defensively. He's not as bad as Keith Yandle was last year. The bad news is that he is starting on the top pair.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 6:53 PM ET
If they were still in he wouldn’t waste 30 minutes talking to the media. That happens when teams are done.
- Flyers1218

Feast your eyes on the “aggressive retool” we were promised lol.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 13 @ 6:54 PM ET
The bottom line is that they're not going to be good enough offensively. They don't have the defense. The best we can hope for is that Tortorella gets the team game straightened out and they can at least be competitive.
- MJL


I read what chuck said in his presser. wtf? I’ve never been so mad. The only thing worse than being too aggressive is saying that you are and leaving the team in limbo because you didn’t execute your plan and also don’t want to rebuild. The team will be a last place team this year and worse, it’s no closer to a stated goal or plan because they don t have one.

I get centre ice every year to watch them and may just skip it this year. There won’t be much to watch.
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 6:54 PM ET
NJ adding decent goaltending and possibly Gaudreau... Flyers could be alone in the Metro cellar by a 20-30 point margin.
- Tomahawk


Will give all our prospects another year to develop and then we can compete in the Metro.

Oh wait....
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 13 @ 6:54 PM ET
I understand the point you're trying to make, but the franchise is still in trouble. There's alot of time left between now and the end of next season to make moves, whether it's trading players and draft picks, signing more ridiculous contracts or extensions, scouting assignments (perhaps outside of the usndtp)...and all those senior advisors and special assistants (ie possible replacements) will still remain just waiting in the wings....cause they have Dave Scott's ear just as much as they do Chuck's
- Flyerfan2868


At least Fletcher had a line in the sand not to trade 1st rd picks. If he didn't do it to move JVR for JG, I doubt that lines gets moved. This year comes down to whether York, Frost, Cates, and Tippett are viable NHL players. If not, they ll be a top 5 lottery team again, which is a long term win for the organization. If they are viable, lower in the lottery, but better organizational depth. Being forced to keep JVR should lead to him traded for an asset at the deadline. With FA here, the longer no player for player trades involving TK or Provy make it doubtful they don't get moved to the deadline at the earliest, which only happens if the tank has been activated.
Now the big unknown is Sanheim. What happens with him. Don't know.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 6:55 PM ET


As far as Chuck's presser, what is he supposed to say? We all know he's full of poop. If he is actually still in on JG, he HAS to say what he did.


- BenderRodriguez


Can you explain why he has to say what he did?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 13 @ 6:55 PM ET
You can combine the ratings from this year and next and they wont surpass the Sixers ratings for this coming year
- THE BLACK HAND


Well, the Sixers averaged 98.7 in home games last year apparently. I assume they will draw that much again, The Flyers were 84.7% last year. Since the capacity of the areans are roughly the same size, Flyers would need to average something like 112% this year to combine the two year ratings and rival that of the Sixers for the coming year. That would be rather hard to do.
Keyser soze
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.28.2020

Jul 13 @ 6:56 PM ET
I didn’t think they would do much today and they won’t. Perfect. This season will be long but if they get 1st overall it will be worth it. So much for the church wives. Lol
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 13 @ 6:56 PM ET
Can teams walk away from a qualifying offer? The Deslauriers signing kind of makes Zac Attack redundant.




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