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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 7:54 PM ET
Arguably worst D in the league. Bring back 3 of them and Tony D who is not known for defense.

Me thinks Chuck wants to get fired and retire.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 7:56 PM ET
You would still have to fill those roster spots with players.
- hereticpride

That is easily done with rookies in-house or vets under a million.

Then add in the Ellis relief.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:00 PM ET
Arguably worst D in the league. Bring back 3 of them and Tony D who is not known for defense.

Me thinks Chuck wants to get fired and retire.

- furio16

Aggressive retool- To do nothing to help the team defensively and not even attempt to replace Giroux’s production.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:02 PM ET
This is the post of the day. Perfect encapulation on what happened today.
- Trox88

Thank you. I’m gonna screen shot this moment.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 13 @ 8:02 PM ET
He hasn’t coached one game here yet and I really already can see Torts walking out on this front office once he sees how things really operate
- hereticpride

I was thinking that. Has it ever happened?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:03 PM ET
That is easily done with rookies in-house or vets under a million.

Then add in the Ellis relief.

- furio16

Hey I don’t disagree. I think it was doable to have the cap room. No one told him to rush out, trade for and pay DeAngelo before the big fish gets locked up. I think they could’ve moved TK for a pick. It’s pretty strange it seems the only way they were willing to sign JG was if they could unload this last year of JVR
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:03 PM ET
Aggressive retool- To do nothing to help the team defensively and not even attempt to replace Giroux’s production.
- hereticpride

Def wants to get fired. Then take the money and run
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 13 @ 8:03 PM ET
What are the odds that Danny B is anointed GM sometime between now and the start of the upcoming season? Chuck stays on as President of Ops, of course.
I think there’s a chance it could happen. Organization is going to be feeling pressure to do something after this underwhelming haul. Granted, we all know it would be a pointless move, but a move nonetheless
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:04 PM ET
I was thinking that. Has it ever happened?
- Sinisalo4vr

I mean he quit pretty early on with the Canucks. I don’t think he quits this summer or anything like that but I do think the season is going to be a poop show from the get go
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Jul 13 @ 8:04 PM ET
Flyers have sunk below the Jets and Browns as the biggest joke franchise in sports
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 13 @ 8:05 PM ET
There might be a chance they said what they needed to with the 'couple moves" remarks.

Then with some timely/surface-level impossibly bad moves, they are in fact icing a slop team in what might be the best possible year to do so.

Maybe Tortorella will create a team in his own image as his swan song.

Depends on whether you think they are playing that game of chess or not.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 8:05 PM ET
Here is what you said in regards to Fletcher. You embarrassed yourself today.


"
Hahahahahahahha and you believe him? Nowwwww you believe cf. oh when it fits your narrative.


Here’s a clue. Don’t believe poop they say"

- MJL


Why would I be embarrassed? Where’s the aggressive retool? Oh you believe cf? I believe NOTHING he says.

I believe actions. His actions are he blows.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:05 PM ET
Hey I don’t disagree. I think it was doable to have the cap room. No one told him to rush out, trade for and pay DeAngelo before the big fish gets locked up. I think they could’ve moved TK for a pick. It’s pretty strange it seems the only way they were willing to sign JG was if they could unload this last year of JVR
- hereticpride

Maybe he knew before signing Tony D that JG wasn’t an Option.

It doesn’t add up. He knows the need elite talent.
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:05 PM ET
I’m 45 years old and a fan since the 85 series. I’m really starting to think I’ll never see my favorite team lift the cup before I die. I won’t lie I was pumped when the Eagles won the SB. I might weep if the Flyers win before I’m in the grave.
- Duran76


I’m the same age as you. You don’t have to worry about weeping anytime soon. Flyers are
Poised to suck for a long time.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 8:06 PM ET
What are the odds that Danny B is anointed GM sometime between now and the start of the upcoming season? Chuck stays on as President of Ops, of course.
I think there’s a chance it could happen. Organization is going to be feeling pressure to do something after this underwhelming haul. Granted, we all know it would be a pointless move, but a move nonetheless

- Big_E_88


Wtf does Danny Briere bring to the table?

Besides being the dinosaur club's hand-picked successor?

Did he even finish his online degree yet?
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jul 13 @ 8:07 PM ET
Wtf does Danny Briere bring to the table?

Besides being the dinosaur club's hand-picked successor?

Did he even finish his online degree yet?

- Tomahawk


Completely agree. It just feels like most Flyers thing to do at this point.

Edit: To be clear, I was by no means suggesting that it was the right thing to do, or that it would in any way help the current situation
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Jul 13 @ 8:07 PM ET
There might be a chance they said what they needed to with the 'couple moves" remarks.

Then with some timely/surface-level impossibly bad moves, they are in fact icing a slop team in what might be the best possible year to do so.

Maybe Tortorella will create a team in his own image as his swan song.

Depends on whether you think they are playing that game of chess or not.

- DrMidnite


CHess???? Chuck cant think on Candyland level
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 13 @ 8:08 PM ET
I mean he quit pretty early on with the Canucks. I don’t think he quits this summer or anything like that but I do think the season is going to be a poop show from the get go
- hereticpride


He got fired when Gillis got fired. I don't think trying to break into the Flames dressing room during intermission helped.

If Fletch gets fired, it's conceivable that Torts gets axed along with him. Otherwise, I don't see him going anywhere.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 13 @ 8:09 PM ET
CHess???? Chuck cant think on Candyland level
- THE BLACK HAND


If missing out on JG means we get a guaranteed top 3 pick by being the worst team is the consolation it's a start.

If Chicago starts pulling some s*** where they rest healthy players it's on.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:11 PM ET
true but whats the point of even bending over backwards to move JVR now? who is left?
- stayinthefnnet

the right play all along was to keep JVR and see if you can get anything at the deadline, if not, just finish the year, don't trade any picks and don't buyout.

These idiots go and buyout Lindblom (good for him) for what? So we can get Nick Deslaurier?

It's a poop show. They should have cleaned house when the fired AV, that was the time to do it, but not this (frank)ed up franchise.

I hope the Pens win the cup just to add to the embarrassment.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:13 PM ET
Wtf does Danny Briere bring to the table?

Besides being the dinosaur club's hand-picked successor?

Did he even finish his online degree yet?

- Tomahawk

Yeah I have zero interest in Briere as GM. He’s just a name they can sell the fans on and keep doing things the way they have been which we all know does not work.

I’m pretty sure Comcast is the richest ownership in the NHL. The fact they don’t go out and offer top dollar to poach front office talent from around the league doesn’t make sense to me. They need to realize their bridge to the hockey world in Clarke & Holmgren is just not cutting it.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:14 PM ET
Wait, hang on here…

We signed Kevin Connauton? So you’re telling me this guy brought back Kevin Connauton, Nick Seeler and Justin Braun back in one summer as if we’re trying to keep the band together?

Ten bucks says before season’s end, Torts approaches Fletcher and says “No offense Boss but you are a (frank)in moron!”

- SuperSchennBros


Just another fireable offense. This (frank)ing guy is teflon.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 8:14 PM ET
Here is what you said in regards to Fletcher. You embarrassed yourself today.


"
Hahahahahahahha and you believe him? Nowwwww you believe cf. oh when it fits your narrative.


Here’s a clue. Don’t believe poop they say"

- MJL



I’m mildly curious…
Should I be doing laps as the greatest since when cc was traded to Florida I reported what I heard from my cousin about the wife being in ottawa looking into school districts and houses? Saying he would sign in ottawa when others said no way? And that was months before free agency.

I just reported what I was told. Same with cc as jg. If anything it shows how poopty this team is that clearly there was some type deal at draft to clear space. As reported by others. And no back up plan or ability to make moves or be able to make moves without getting ass pummeled like Risto trade as jg clearly waited ALL day to give them opportunity to make room for deal he clearly signed off on. At the end of the day status quo. This team stuck in no man’s land. They will suck next year with a host of new excuses.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 8:15 PM ET
Flyers have sunk below the Jets and Browns as the biggest joke franchise in sports
- THE BLACK HAND

Have?
They weren’t already?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:15 PM ET
Have you ever gotten into an argument with some random guy who tells you your team blows and he could manage, coach or play better than anything your team has and you get so angry because it’s really an asinine statement in most cases…??

I’m sure most of you can figure out the rest.
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