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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:16 PM ET
the right play all along was to keep JVR and see if you can get anything at the deadline, if not, just finish the year, don't trade any picks and don't buyout.

These idiots go and buyout Lindblom (good for him) for what? So we can get Nick Deslaurier?

It's a poop show. They should have cleaned house when the fired AV, that was the time to do it, but not this (frank)ed up franchise.

I hope the Pens win the cup just to add to the embarrassment.

- rayc16


while that would be rad, theyre pretty far from out of their own pile of (frank)ery. im just content to see the trio play some competitive games and pad some stats at this point. they have to do something though. 9 million nhl contract D men and still a few forwards away from a full roster.

it does smell of you guys not having any sort of plan though. they want to be competitive now but cant even get that right. If couturier misses any portion of time, you guys are going to be BAD. which is the best thing for them.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:16 PM ET
Have?
They weren’t already?

- Stayin alive

The only franchise more embarrassing than the Flyers in the four major sports is the Washington Commanders. And that’s not saying much considering that poop show.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:16 PM ET
Just another fireable offense. This (frank)ing guy is teflon.
- rayc16

The problem is and ask yourself this, what does the organization do next after they’ve fired Fletcher after today?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:18 PM ET
Why would I be embarrassed? Where’s the aggressive retool? Oh you believe cf? I believe NOTHING he says.

I believe actions. His actions are he blows.

- Stayin alive


Let me provide for you a list

1) Stated that Gaudreau to the Flyers is a done deal. Even after the GM said they were out

2) Showed a complete lack of understanding of the salary cap including other teams position in terms of being cap compliant including the Flyers position

3) Made a really dumb comment in response to those telling you that the GM said they were out and said to not listen to the GM. Now here you are trying to spin it into something else.


The shame of it is that you had a real chance to score major points but you let your ego get in the way.



Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 13 @ 8:18 PM ET
Wow, can't win with people on here. You got your wish. The Flyers are basically guaranteed to finish last in the east this year, so you can take your shot at Bedard. Did Torts hand in his walking papers yet? So this day started with fans hoping that the Flyers would get the top free agent, and instead dimwit signs a cement head to a 4 year deal and brings back Braun. Good thing all those pundits had it nailed with JG going to Columbus! Eh what??
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 13 @ 8:20 PM ET
Wtf does Danny Briere bring to the table?

Besides being the dinosaur club's hand-picked successor?

Did he even finish his online degree yet?

- Tomahawk


Yeah, DeVry just mailed the diploma.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:20 PM ET
He likes Jake’s zone entries
- wcorvette


Jake may approach 75+ assists
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:21 PM ET
Wow, can't win with people on here. You got your wish. The Flyers are basically guaranteed to finish last in the east this year, so you can take your shot at Bedard. Did Torts hand in his walking papers yet? So this day started with fans hoping that the Flyers would get the top free agent, and instead dimwit signs a cement head to a 4 year deal and brings back Braun. Good thing all those pundits had it nailed with JG going to Columbus! Eh what??
- Phillywhiteout

Yup. Like I said earlier. We were told we were getting an aggressive retool and this GM is so incompetent that inadvertently he hands us a roster that’s going to be front and center in the tank race lol.

Just sucks that he blew those picks on DeAngelo.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 13 @ 8:21 PM ET
He got fired when Gillis got fired. I don't think trying to break into the Flames dressing room during intermission helped.

If Fletch gets fired, it's conceivable that Torts gets axed along with him. Otherwise, I don't see him going anywhere.

- Tomahawk


That would be typical Flyers. Paying 2 coaches $9M a year who no longer coach for them.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 8:22 PM ET
Wow, can't win with people on here. You got your wish. The Flyers are basically guaranteed to finish last in the east this year, so you can take your shot at Bedard. Did Torts hand in his walking papers yet? So this day started with fans hoping that the Flyers would get the top free agent, and instead dimwit signs a cement head to a 4 year deal and brings back Braun. Good thing all those pundits had it nailed with JG going to Columbus! Eh what??
- Phillywhiteout

Are you insane? This post is like walking into an ice cold room and claiming it’s boiling hot. Nobody is upset we didn’t get Johnny Gaudreau. We’re pissed with what we did get, which didn’t change anything. Everything stayed exactly the same.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:23 PM ET
while that would be rad, theyre pretty far from out of their own pile of (frank)ery. im just content to see the trio play some competitive games and pad some stats at this point. they have to do something though. 9 million nhl contract D men and still a few forwards away from a full roster.

it does smell of you guys not having any sort of plan though. they want to be competitive now but cant even get that right. If couturier misses any portion of time, you guys are going to be BAD. which is the best thing for them.

- stayinthefnnet

Yeah, it's more to put more shame in this franchise. Although, with Jarry (maybe even DeSmith) you guys win that series. That's all I wanted was the Rangers out in the first round.

You have to move a D, should get something in return.
Rliable
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blackwood, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jul 13 @ 8:23 PM ET
The problem is and ask yourself this, what does the organization do next after they’ve fired Fletcher after today?
- SuperSchennBros


Worst part is that he won’t be fired for this.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 13 @ 8:23 PM ET
I’m 45 years old and a fan since the 85 series. I’m really starting to think I’ll never see my favorite team lift the cup before I die. I won’t lie I was pumped when the Eagles won the SB. I might weep if the Flyers win before I’m in the grave.
- Duran76


Better start or keep eating those veggies.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:23 PM ET
I’m mildly curious…
Should I be doing laps as the greatest since when cc was traded to Florida I reported what I heard from my cousin about the wife being in ottawa looking into school districts and houses? Saying he would sign in ottawa when others said no way? And that was months before free agency.



- Stayin alive


You absolutely deserve credit for that. Well done and kudos to you. You didn't try and oversell that like you did Gaudreau.



I just reported what I was told. Same with cc as jg. If anything it shows how poopty this team is that clearly there was some type deal at draft to clear space. As reported by others. And no back up plan or ability to make moves or be able to make moves without getting ass pummeled like Risto trade as jg clearly waited ALL day to give them opportunity to make room for deal he clearly signed off on. At the end of the day status quo. This team stuck in no man’s land. They will suck next year with a host of new excuses.

- Stayin alive



You weren't told it was a done deal. You added that and you know it. You blew it on this one. All you had to say was that the Flyers and Gaudreau's first choice and why and he wants to play here


You don't seem to understand how hard it is to clear cap space. Especially with a marginal player like JVR. They may have been close to a deal with Ottawa and then DeBrincat came into the picture.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 13 @ 8:23 PM ET
So instead of Braun Tony D and Delauries we could have had Gaudreau? Thanks Fletcher. Guy wanted to get out of Canada so bad he told his agent “anywhere remotely East coast”.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:24 PM ET
The problem is and ask yourself this, what does the organization do next after they’ve fired Fletcher after today?
- SuperSchennBros

Sit on it for a year, dump what you can at the deadline, get as many picks as you can.

They (frank)ed up and didn't fire Chuck when they fired AV.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 13 @ 8:24 PM ET
Yup. Like I said earlier. We were told we were getting an aggressive retool and this GM is so incompetent that inadvertently he hands us a roster that’s going to be in the tank race lol.

Just sucks that he blew those picks on DeAngelo.

- hereticpride


That is the crazy part. Does not part with a top 5 pick for DeBrincat. Spends draft capital and precious cap space to sign DeAngelo. Does not use a 1st to jettison JVR for JG, but buys out Lindblom. Wow, absolutely insane.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jul 13 @ 8:25 PM ET
Are you insane? This post is like walking into an ice cold room and claiming it’s boiling hot. Nobody is upset we didn’t get Johnny Gaudreau. We’re pissed with what we did get, which didn’t change anything. Everything stayed exactly the same.
- SuperSchennBros


Unless this team stays healthy and/or Torts is really that great of a coach it’s way worse.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 13 @ 8:25 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Free Agency: A "Reverse Kotkaniemi"?
- bmeltzer


So our backup Goalie is 32Y/O Tony Grosenick?
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:26 PM ET
Are you insane? This post is like walking into an ice cold room and claiming it’s boiling hot. Nobody is upset we didn’t get Johnny Gaudreau. We’re pissed with what we did get, which didn’t change anything. Everything stayed exactly the same.
- SuperSchennBros

You're wrong.
It's worse
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:26 PM ET
So let me get this right. CF buys out Oskar then signs Braun and Nic D.
If you were going for something bigger why not wait on the Oskar buyout.
I’d rather have OL back than these two.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 8:27 PM ET
So our backup Goalie is 32Y/O Tony Grosenick?
- corduroy

Yeah this sort of got lost in the sauce with everything else going on. Hart better stay healthy lol.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 13 @ 8:27 PM ET
Have you ever gotten into an argument with some random guy who tells you your team blows and he could manage, coach or play better than anything your team has and you get so angry because it’s really an asinine statement in most cases…??

I’m sure most of you can figure out the rest.

- SuperSchennBros


Lmao. In Philly. Are literally pluck a name from phonebook. Can’t do worse
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:28 PM ET
That is the crazy part. Does not part with a top 5 pick for DeBrincat. Spends draft capital and precious cap space to sign DeAngelo. Does not use a 1st to jettison JVR for JG, but buys out Lindblom. Wow, absolutely insane.
- Trox88



I figured it out. He's bi-polar
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 8:28 PM ET
Back to where I was last week

Coots needs a good season, Hayes good season, Cam and miracle Ellis, then sell, sell and sell
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