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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 13 @ 9:20 PM ET
I’m glad you brought this up. We haven’t seen a full season and the ceilings both Tippett and Frost could provide. A healthy Hayes and Couturier should make us better. Konency and Farabee need to be better. There is no reason neither guy can’t sniff 30 goal seasons in their careers. I don’t know what the deal is with Konency’s dry spells. That’s not just development.
- SuperSchennBros


I am very curious about how York, Brink, Cates, Attard, and Forrester develop this season. Some will be in the NHL, others in the AHL at least to start or even all season. Can half of these guys be NHL contributors on a playoff team in time? No clue, but it would be a relief to see signs this season that some of these guys are legit NHL players that can be counted on to perform.
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 9:25 PM ET
Well, on the bright side, this is a good draft year to totally suck. Not that it really matters in the end because this team ruins prospects faster than a teenager in Epstein's mansion.
- MBFlyerfan


The problem with the Flyers is that they excel when expectations are low. We will not finish in the bottom 5 this year. We should, but we won't.

I bet we are fighting for a playoff spot just from over performing under a new coach. If they wanted to tank, they missed the chance to do so this past season. Instead we won meaningless games and lost out on some really decent picks.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
I am very curious about how York, Brink, Cates, Attard, and Forrester develop this season. Some will be in the NHL, others in the AHL at least to start or even all season. Can half of these guys be NHL contributors on a playoff team in time? No clue, but it would be a relief to see signs this season that some of these guys are legit NHL players that can be counted on to perform.
- Trox88

I don’t really care about our prospects passed Forrester and Gauthier. I don’t think Attard will become anything.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 13 @ 9:31 PM ET
He left $15M on the table from Calgary tho.
- Tomahawk

Interesting. But guessing he wanted to leave them.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 13 @ 9:32 PM ET
I don’t really care about our prospects passed Forrester and Gauthier. I don’t think Attard will become anything.
- SuperSchennBros


Fair enough, your thoughts on York being a viable NHL Dman?
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 13 @ 9:33 PM ET
Im not. The Risto trade sealed his fate with me. Im estatic because from all of their misguided retool nonsense, they are going to hopefully bottom out with the potentially draft with talent like McDavid/Matthews or Ovi/Malkin available
- THE BLACK HAND


Can you imagine.

Not since Lindros / LeClair did we have a duo like that.

Maybe Cutter is one who knows.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:34 PM ET
I am very curious about how York, Brink, Cates, Attard, and Forrester develop this season. Some will be in the NHL, others in the AHL at least to start or even all season. Can half of these guys be NHL contributors on a playoff team in time? No clue, but it would be a relief to see signs this season that some of these guys are legit NHL players that can be counted on to perform.
- Trox88


Brink’s development is going to depend on his hip injury.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 13 @ 9:35 PM ET
Interesting. But guessing he wanted to leave them.
- Peter Richards


I’m shocked he ended up with cbj. There’s no way that was his main plan.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 13 @ 9:36 PM ET
It’s difficult to say, but I think Chuck Fletcher actually did worse than I expected so far this off-season. And that’s saying a lot because my expectations were low.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 13 @ 9:37 PM ET
Can you imagine.

Not since Lindros / LeClair did we have a duo like that.

Maybe Cutter is one who knows.

- DrMidnite


There is zero chance we’ll end up getting any of the top players next draft. Wel lose the lottery and pick just outside the top picks.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 13 @ 9:38 PM ET
Brink’s development is going to depend on his hip injury.
- bird_dog_pa


Agreed, just horrible timing. Foerester lost a yr of development because of a shoulder injury, now his trajectory is in doubt. He looked really good at LV during the covid yr when he could not play in junior.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 13 @ 9:39 PM ET
This Deslauriers deal reminds me of the Jody Shelley deal way back when.
- MBFlyerfan


Yes! I thought the same thing but at least Shelley scored the Rags goal against us in the great shootout game so that had to impress Homer! I have nothing against Nic D as I rarely have seen him play, but definitely a head scratcher.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 13 @ 9:39 PM ET
[quote=Sir_Robot_Farts]Could Wayne Gretzky in his prime save this franchise?

I have 0 faith in management's ability to draft and develop a once in a life time player.

He'd put butts in seats. And that equals money. So in a sense, yes he could.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 13 @ 9:40 PM ET
It’s difficult to say, but I think Chuck Fletcher actually did worse than I expected so far this off-season. And that’s saying a lot because my expectations were low.
- funmaster18


He is your arch enemy -- the Anti-funmaster
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:41 PM ET
Fair enough, your thoughts on York being a viable NHL Dman?
- Trox88

I think York belongs. Yandle being signed didn’t help.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 13 @ 9:41 PM ET
Yeah, it's more to put more shame in this franchise. Although, with Jarry (maybe even DeSmith) you guys win that series. That's all I wanted was the Rangers out in the first round.

You have to move a D, should get something in return.

- rayc16

marino should have some value, but thats who i would least want to move.

although with the signing of the lightning defender who knows.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 13 @ 9:44 PM ET
Bookmark this post. Odds on us getting Mrs. Gritty this season have to be huge now.
- hereticpride


I'm sure one promo they'll run is "Nic Deslauriers rock em sock em robot night"
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 13 @ 9:44 PM ET
Yeah we’ll all suffer through another horrible year and the ping ball balls will give us something other than the first overall.
- mikeyo27


Yep, that's a a lock!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:46 PM ET
It’s difficult to say, but I think Chuck Fletcher actually did worse than I expected so far this off-season. And that’s saying a lot because my expectations were low.
- funmaster18

He basically botched every major thing he had to do in the past two weeks imo.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 9:52 PM ET
I'm sure one promo they'll run is "Nic Deslauriers rock em sock em robot night"
- Pelle31Forever

And I swear to god if they bring back that Brinng It To Broad nonsense lol

It can’t be fun working in Flyers ticket sales and PR right now
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
[quote=Pelle31Forever]
Fair enough
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
Sit on it for a year, dump what you can at the deadline, get as many picks as you can.

They (frank)ed up and didn't fire Chuck when they fired AV.

- rayc16


Let's hope this is the case and agree that we should've dumped Chuck with AV. We weren't going to much anyway unless miraculously Coots, Ellis, etc return to form. we'll have to suffer through another miserable season which I won't like, but so be it.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
He is your arch enemy -- the Anti-funmaster
- corduroy

You’re right. God willing he doesn’t get much more time to continue this madness.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 13 @ 10:01 PM ET

Is the most positive feelings about the Flyers only when a player gets to go to another team with a better chance for happiness and success?

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:02 PM ET
He basically botched every major thing he had to do in the past two weeks imo.
- hereticpride

Completely unprepared and incapable of executing anything that remotely resembled or supported this aggressive retool plan that he’s been touting. It’s just been bizarre.
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