Oh ya sorry lol just saw makita's posts.

I respect him greatly.

To clarify the Miller situation is a tough one. We are in a position to play good Hockey next year under Boudreau but at the same time folks want 4 players for him. I for one am not ready (yet again) to go through another 3-4 years while the picks and prospects we get for Miller pan out or not. He's not Matthews lol. I've said this since day 1. See where next season goes and move him at TDL if you have to. All else will fall in line.
- LordHumungous

The sense of feel I’m getting is JR isn’t liking offers. Starting the season with Miller is perfectly fine & is important on getting off to a good start. He’ll be motivated as will the rest be under BB. I’d lean towards a TDL deal most likely unless the team is flying & Miller buys in it’s a legit run the team is making big strides. The TDL won’t fetch a solid NHLer imo but will get 3 good assets 4 hopefully if it comes down to it. At least more teams will be pushing by that time which could open up more trade possibilities.

Because you complain about him so much.

Go get yourself a calculator, a stack of paper and go sit down at a desk. I'm assuming you don't know how to use a spreadsheet.


They're both pending UFA's and we have limited cap space. If the management team can move out another contract to sign them both then good for them. If not, one of them is gone.
- golfingsince

I harp on Bo because he lacks toughness and grit I want to see from our captain. Other than that he's great. Good in PO's the whole package pretty much. Streaky but that's life. You are saying we can't keep both Bo and Miller? No way. So much salary we can move out first Pearson, Garland, Myers, Hogs maybe and a few others. If this club wants to win...we'll need both. Certain Dynamic both players bring. But you are correct other contracts will need to be moved out it can be done.

I like our moves. Mikheyev and lazar are excellent adds. Kuz as well. We have players on the verge of breakout years. It's going to be a damn exciting season IMO not all this doom/gloom for not moving Miller.

Enjoy it. Gonna be fun.

The entire 1st round was fantastic hockey night after night.
The 3 game days were awesome!
- Marwood

You got criticized for calling the 1st round the best hockey of the year.




Look at the SCF in comparison, and you can't flip the channel to another game.

His speed is unreal. Easily the fastest on the NUcks probably. Gonna be exciting but there will be growing pains as he slots in the line up.
- LordHumungous

Normally I’d expect an adjustment period but his speed & D & PK skills should mesh easily. Scoring will be more about opportunity on which line. Miller or Petey would make his life easier imo.

I harp on Bo because he lacks toughness and grit I want to see from our captain. Other than that he's great. Good in PO's the whole package pretty much. Streaky but that's life. You are saying we can't keep both Bo and Miller? No way. So much salary we can move out first Pearson, Garland, Myers, Hogs maybe and a few others. If this club wants to win...we'll need both. Certain Dynamic both players bring. But you are correct other contracts will need to be moved out it can be done.

I like our moves. Mikheyev and lazar are excellent adds. Kuz as well. We have players on the verge of breakout years. It's going to be a damn exciting season IMO not all this doom/gloom for not moving Miller.

Enjoy it. Gonna be fun.
- LordHumungous

We don't need Bo and Miller. There are many ways to skin a cat.

If Miller hits UFA then he's gone unless we overpay, it's that simple. If we sign Miller to a deal that works for the team then we won't be able to keep Horvat without sacrificing our depth.

8 years for Miller is bad, so his AAV has to rise on a shorter deal.

VGK doesn’t scare me. Sure they added Jack but they just are not what they once were.

Miky Miller Boeser
Pod Petey Garland
Hog Bo Kuzmenko
Dlcky Lazar Lockwood

Idk what to do with Pearson atm.
Hog could improve or the doghouse. Those lines are fluid & I will most likely change them closer to the season starting.
- Nighthawk

Vegas is trending backwards. CGY will take a bit of a step back losing JH's 100+ points unless it's replaced real quick. EDM will be better with Campbell in net. Hell they made the conference finals with SMITH lol. LA will move back a bit.

Big opportunity for the Canucks to move up the standings this year and compete with EDM I'm sure Allvin and JR see it.

Talk about Bo’s grittiness is fabricated. He plays a power game and is very strong on puck possession. C’s don’t run around hitting.

You got criticized for calling the 1st round the best hockey of the year.




Look at the SCF in comparison, and you can't flip the channel to another game.
- golfingsince

He did? It's common knowledge the first round is usually the best lol

Vegas is trending backwards. CGY will take a bit of a step back losing JH's 100+ points unless it's replaced real quick. EDM will be better with Campbell in net. Hell they made the conference finals with SMITH lol. LA will move back a bit.

Big opportunity for the Canucks to move up the standings this year and compete with EDM I'm sure Allvin and JR see it.
- LordHumungous

3rd place is wide open. Great start & 2nd is there to be had. Special teams will be key along with all around better play from D. Doable.

We don't need Bo and Miller. There are many ways to skin a cat.

If Miller hits UFA then he's gone unless we overpay, it's that simple. If we sign Miller to a deal that works for the team then we won't be able to keep Horvat without sacrificing our depth.

8 years for Miller is bad, so his AAV has to rise on a shorter deal.
- golfingsince

Sure if you are looking ahead another 5 years on another mini rebuild.

All I'm saying is let's see what we have now under Boudreau.

Maybe Miller signs a reasonable deal and not an 8 year term?

The sense of feel I’m getting is JR isn’t liking offers. Starting the season with Miller is perfectly fine & is important on getting off to a good start. He’ll be motivated as will the rest be under BB. I’d lean towards a TDL deal most likely unless the team is flying & Miller buys in it’s a legit run the team is making big strides. The TDL won’t fetch a solid NHLer imo but will get 3 good assets 4 hopefully if it comes down to it. At least more teams will be pushing by that time which could open up more trade possibilities.
- Nighthawk

Not compared to what he can bring to the team this season.

If we're holding on to 8th spot near the deadline and Miller is bringing you back a huge haul you move him, plain and simple. Gustad brought back a 1st round pick at the deadline FFS.

If they're .500 at Christmas and folks are calling for the coach's head and keeping Miller then they should probably retire their account.

We don't need Bo and Miller. There are many ways to skin a cat.

If Miller hits UFA then he's gone unless we overpay, it's that simple. If we sign Miller to a deal that works for the team then we won't be able to keep Horvat without sacrificing our depth.

8 years for Miller is bad, so his AAV has to rise on a shorter deal.
- golfingsince

Until Pouty learns to play centre, you need 2 good centres. Not saying it has to be Bo and Miller, but Pouty is very inconsistent, when playing centre.IMO

Talk about Bo’s grittiness is fabricated. He plays a power game and is very strong on puck possession. C’s don’t run around hitting.
- Nighthawk

All we need to see from Bo at this point is a little more star player protection. I never said he needs to have 10 hits per game and 25 fights per year. Just need to stand up and send messages not only to his own dressing room but to other teams. I actually couldn't physically believe he skated to the bench and OEL had to step in a fight for him after Garland was ran dirty. It's like a cancer that goes through the room. When you see your captain standing tall it's infectious to the rest of the club. It's a great feeling and drives energy like you would not believe. It's not too much to ask IMO.

Sure if you are looking ahead another 5 years on another mini rebuild.

All I'm saying is let's see what we have now under Boudreau.

Maybe Miller signs a reasonable deal and not an 8 year term?
- LordHumungous

You do realize if you're moving Miller you're getting NHL ready talent on deep teams right, young guys that can't quite crack the Stanley Cup ready lineup?

You can't look at teams today and say what they're willing to give up near the deadline. Some teams that extra year of control is everything, for other teams they don't even necessarily want it. It's a pure cap manipulating rental. Canucks retain 50% on Miller at the deadline and he's essentially little more than a 3rd line salary. You take an expiring one back, get paid handsomely.

3rd place is wide open. Great start & 2nd is there to be had. Special teams will be key along with all around better play from D. Doable.
- Nighthawk

Bang on. PK will get cleaned up just need to get the D in check.

Projections…

Miller will do fine not 99pts…32/60
Petey will be on a mission…38/60
Bo is Bo…30/35
Brock will bounce back 30/40
Garland something to prove…25/35
Pod just keeps getting better…20/25
Hog needs to shake the doghouse
Kuzmenko too difficult so wtf…15/25
Miky 2-way force/PK…18/30

Not compared to what he can bring to the team this season.

If we're holding on to 8th spot near the deadline and Miller is bringing you back a huge haul you move him, plain and simple. Gustad brought back a 1st round pick at the deadline FFS.

If they're .500 at Christmas and folks are calling for the coach's head and keeping Miller then they should probably retire their account.
- golfingsince

If Miller won’t resign I expect JR has no problem trading him whether a PO push is on or not.

Projections…

Miller will do fine not 99pts…32/60
Petey will be on a mission…38/60
Bo is Bo…30/35
Brock will bounce back 30/40
Garland something to prove…25/35
Pod just keeps getting better…20/25
Hog needs to shake the doghouse
Kuzmenko too difficult so wtf…15/25
Miky 2-way force/PK…18/30
- Nighthawk

The Florida Panthers led the league with 337 goals last season. The low end of your projections have 8 Canucks players scoring 208 goals.

You might want to revise them.

You do realize if you're moving Miller you're getting NHL ready talent on deep teams right, young guys that can't quite crack the Stanley Cup ready lineup?

You can't look at teams today and say what they're willing to give up near the deadline. Some teams that extra year of control is everything, for other teams they don't even necessarily want it. It's a pure cap manipulating rental. Canucks retain 50% on Miller at the deadline and he's essentially little more than a 3rd line salary. You take an expiring one back, get paid handsomely.
- golfingsince

Agree. So many ways to trade a player of Millers calibre ppl too easily think the worst.

Sure if you are looking ahead another 5 years on another mini rebuild.

All I'm saying is let's see what we have now under Boudreau.

Maybe Miller signs a reasonable deal and not an 8 year term?
- LordHumungous

Sure, he'll take a discount because he loves playing in Canada so much.

The Florida Panthers led the league with 337 goals last season. The low end of your projections have 8 Canucks players scoring 208 goals.

You might want to revise them.
- golfingsince

Trying for 300 goals max but that’s if a great season. 270-280 more likely. Lots of scoring from top 9 is looking good. Lol

Trying for 300 goals max but that’s if a great season. 270-280 more likely. Lots of scoring from top 9 is looking good. Lol
- Nighthawk

The high end of your projections has 8 players scoring 290 goals.

The high end of your projections has 8 players scoring 290 goals.
- golfingsince

Those are goals/assists

Vegas is trending backwards. CGY will take a bit of a step back losing JH's 100+ points unless it's replaced real quick. EDM will be better with Campbell in net. Hell they made the conference finals with SMITH lol. LA will move back a bit.

Big opportunity for the Canucks to move up the standings this year and compete with EDM I'm sure Allvin and JR see it.
- LordHumungous

Lots of talk of Tkachuck on his way out as well...

The division is up for grabs this season.

The high end of your projections has 8 players scoring 290 goals.
- golfingsince

If the team scores another 25-40 goals they should be in playoffs, provided they aren't playing run and gun and losing 8-6 hockey games.