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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 14 @ 9:20 PM ET
Why?
- Makita

Great question
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 14 @ 9:20 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

@darius

You are great at complaining but what’s your solution to the Canucks problems?

- CanuckDon


Ask boner for his narrative!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 14 @ 9:28 PM ET
Ask boner for his narrative!
- VanHockeyGuy

😵‍💫
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 9:34 PM ET
Ask boner for his narrative!
- VanHockeyGuy


You're definitely in the category of Whiner. Raging constantly how bad this team is... can't back up your beefs with people talking about where this team really is compared to hyperbole and narratives.

Don't know why that question falls on me. I've sat back and laughed about all the narratives of how bad this team is, the big turn over and rebuild assumptions. People like you think Benning's roster needs to be dumped... it's not going to look significantly different regardless of the changes I or others would like to see.

The narrative that this management isn't buying into last seasons push is crumbling fast.... the team isn't getting overhauled... we would have seen major moves by now... the core will stay intact. tweaks...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 14 @ 9:39 PM ET
You're definitely in the category of Whiner. Raging constantly how bad this team is... can't back up your beefs with people talking about where this team really is compared to hyperbole and narratives.

Don't know why that question falls on me. I've sat back and laughed about all the narratives of how bad this team is, the big turn over and rebuild assumptions. People like you think Benning's roster needs to be dumped... it's not going to look significantly different regardless of the changes I or others would like to see.

The narrative that this management isn't buying into last seasons push is crumbling fast.... the team isn't getting overhauled... we would have seen major moves by now... the core will stay intact. tweaks...

- boonerbuck



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 9:50 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy





Keep going... you have nothing else but mockery. Failed in the discussions long ago...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 14 @ 9:52 PM ET


Keep going... you have nothing else but mockery. Failed in the discussions long ago...

- boonerbuck


I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain this to you.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 14 @ 9:54 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

@darius

You are great at complaining but what’s your solution to the Canucks problems?

- CanuckDon


A Miller trade that nets us a top 4 RD and maybe another asset would be nice. Offloading one of OEL or Myers would also help out our cap crunch. Again, if I knew all the answers, I'd be JR/PA, not some schmoe on a hockey rumour board, complaining about the team.

I just see this team and how bad it was last year, and how much had to go right just for us to get where we ended up at the end and I don't see it as sustainable or even reality. I think players like Miller, EP40, Hughes and Demko are going to either take a step back or else plateau where they are. I think injuries are going to decimate us by Christmas and with no depth to at least let us tread water until the lineup is back.

I think our D is at the VERY best, questionable, and horrid at worst. I think losing one of Hughes, Myers or OEL will cause us to slide down the standings faster than you can say K-Y Jelly. But again, I'm only a Joe Schmoe, and what do I know.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 10:02 PM ET
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain this to you.
- VanHockeyGuy


Stop eating the crayons then.



Lots of time to run your mouth but no time to back it up. Because you can't...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 14 @ 10:03 PM ET
A Miller trade that nets us a top 4 RD and maybe another asset would be nice. Offloading one of OEL or Myers would also help out our cap crunch. Again, if I knew all the answers, I'd be JR/PA, not some schmoe on a hockey rumour board, complaining about the team.

I just see this team and how bad it was last year, and how much had to go right just for us to get where we ended up at the end and I don't see it as sustainable or even reality. I think players like Miller, EP40, Hughes and Demko are going to either take a step back or else plateau where they are. I think injuries are going to decimate us by Christmas and with no depth to at least let us tread water until the lineup is back.

I think our D is at the VERY best, questionable, and horrid at worst. I think losing one of Hughes, Myers or OEL will cause us to slide down the standings faster than you can say K-Y Jelly. But again, I'm only a Joe Schmoe, and what do I know.

- DariusKnight


Clearly you haven't paid attention to the narrative? There's nothing wrong with the roster, aside from a couple of minor tweaks!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 14 @ 10:09 PM ET
A Miller trade that nets us a top 4 RD and maybe another asset would be nice. Offloading one of OEL or Myers would also help out our cap crunch. Again, if I knew all the answers, I'd be JR/PA, not some schmoe on a hockey rumour board, complaining about the team.

I just see this team and how bad it was last year, and how much had to go right just for us to get where we ended up at the end and I don't see it as sustainable or even reality. I think players like Miller, EP40, Hughes and Demko are going to either take a step back or else plateau where they are. I think injuries are going to decimate us by Christmas and with no depth to at least let us tread water until the lineup is back.

I think our D is at the VERY best, questionable, and horrid at worst
. I think losing one of Hughes, Myers or OEL will cause us to slide down the standings faster than you can say K-Y Jelly. But again, I'm only a Joe Schmoe, and what do I know.

- DariusKnight

You should look around more at the rest of the league.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 10:09 PM ET
Clearly you haven't paid attention to the narrative? There's nothing wrong with the roster, aside from a couple of minor tweaks!
- VanHockeyGuy





I think there needs to be changes to our D and some changes to the top 9. Not sure management sees past making the playoffs this season with the way the line up is constructed right now though.

I definitely want to see the biggest return on Miller possible and not see it diminish with time. I want to see a return that will help this team long term.

You are (frank)ing clueless. I never said there was nothing wrong with this line up or the situation it's in moving forward. But I definitely never though the core was going to be turned over.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 14 @ 10:15 PM ET


I think there needs to be changes to our D and some changes to the top 9. Not sure management sees past making the playoffs this season with the way the line up is constructed right now though.

I definitely want to see the biggest return on Miller possible and not see it diminish with time. I want to see a return that will help this team long term.

You are (frank)ing clueless. I never said there was nothing wrong with this line up or the situation it's in moving forward. But I definitely never though the core was going to be turned over.

- boonerbuck


You know what, I like you're narrative fests!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
Man, Thursday hate is fierce! Thursday puts Sunday to shame. Way to go Thursday.

And now for something completely different.

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 14 @ 10:25 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

@darius

You are great at complaining but what’s your solution to the Canucks problems?

- CanuckDon

This and then start fresh.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 14 @ 10:26 PM ET
You're definitely in the category of Whiner. Raging constantly how bad this team is... can't back up your beefs with people talking about where this team really is compared to hyperbole and narratives.

Don't know why that question falls on me. I've sat back and laughed about all the narratives of how bad this team is, the big turn over and rebuild assumptions. People like you think Benning's roster needs to be dumped... it's not going to look significantly different regardless of the changes I or others would like to see.

The narrative that this management isn't buying into last seasons push is crumbling fast.... the team isn't getting overhauled... we would have seen major moves by now... the core will stay intact. tweaks...

- boonerbuck


Umm.......nevermind.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 10:37 PM ET
Umm.......nevermind.
- Load Management


I can imagine you fishing. waaah I have to pinch my barbs. waaah I have to let that fish go. waah no one is with me to tie my knots... maybe if you didnt have to hide from the CO's they could tie your knots.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:38 PM ET
Of course it's not easy, if it was we'd be contenders already. The problem is that when you say one thing and do another makes you lose credibility real fast.


- Sure, but it's a reach and overpay for someone who played with Matthews, Marner, Tavares et.al. and had a career season because of it. Kind of like going after a Brandon Sutter and signing him to a deal that he could never live up to no?

- Ok, I'll give them this, he's serviceable and for a 4th line center he'll be maybe a slight upgrade on Lammiko.

- Is he going to even play much though? I see him as another 13th forward like Ferland was before his injuries.

- Sure, but he has an equal chance of being a Vadim Shipachyov who doesn't even crack the final regular season roster as being as good as Panarin. It's praiseworthy of this management group to woo the most coveted Euro player to the team but it's definitely a risk. Much like Benning and his NCAA signings.

- Sure, but D still the same and no indication that anything might be imminent to address it. It's never been the forward position that was the issue. You'd like to see them have a bit more size and grit and balance up front but scoring wasn't an issue. The D core is so bad, it's an embarrassment and nothing has changed, it's fair to wonder if they really have the brass ones to potentially make a big trade to make big changes considering the history of the top members of the management group.

- DariusKnight

Mikeyev didn’t play top 6.

Marner AM Bunting
Kerfoot JT Nylander
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 10:48 PM ET
Mikeyev didn’t play top 6.

Marner AM Bunting
Kerfoot JT Nylander

- Nighthawk


Probably won't be top 6 here as well. He'll get a look like he should but ultimately his ice time will come from 3rd line and PK duty. Maybe 2nd PP unit but I'm skeptical that he provides that effectively.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:55 PM ET
Probably won't be top 6 here as well. He'll get a look like he should but ultimately his ice time will come from 3rd line and PK duty. Maybe 2nd PP unit but I'm skeptical that he provides that effectively.
- boonerbuck

Same role as in Hogtown. It’s a gamble he’ll earn his contract but we’ve the top 9 depth to help him. I’m guessing he’ll be a pleasant surprise & shuts up the fans who leap to negativity first. He’ll add to what we lacked in more than 1 way.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 14 @ 10:58 PM ET
Feel free to disagree, if I'm wrong then I'll be the first one to eat crow and say you're right, but I'm not. We're closer to a bottom 10 team then top 10 right now. But hey, there's always room for you on the haters once you take off the rose colored glasses and take a look around the league and not just the Canucks. I want Miller gone because he's not going to sign here long-term and if he does, it's going to weigh us down for a long time while he declines.
- DariusKnight

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 11:00 PM ET
Same role as in Hogtown. It’s a gamble he’ll earn his contract but we’ve the top 9 depth to help him. I’m guessing he’ll be a pleasant surprise & shuts up the fans who leap to negativity first. He’ll add to what we lacked in more than 1 way.
- Nighthawk


Decent add but not sure he's worth as much as he's getting paid. I'm always nervous about adding someone with only one decent season under their belt. He'll be a good tweak to the line up I'm sure.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 11:06 PM ET
Decent add but not sure he's worth as much as he's getting paid. I'm always nervous about adding someone with only one decent season under their belt. He'll be a good tweak to the line up I'm sure.
- boonerbuck

I’m not concerned about his stats. Russians take awhile usually to acclimatize to a new culture. In his case playing in a fish bowl he survived & did fine & should be better for it. His interview he sounded positive & sure about himself.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 11:24 PM ET
Been hearing this quite a bit...

One year 1.2 million for Stecher in AZ. Canucks were one of a few teams in, but he chose the desert. (@irfgaffar)

Quite funny, not only is this management content with Benning's roster for the most part, they even tried to bring back the scraps he let go...

Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 14 @ 11:25 PM ET
I can imagine you fishing. waaah I have to pinch my barbs. waaah I have to let that fish go. waah no one is with me to tie my knots... maybe if you didnt have to hide from the CO's they could tie your knots.

- boonerbuck


I love barbless. I release most of what I catch, so it's great. Have one quick goto knot. Unlike you, it never fails.
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