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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 15 @ 3:59 AM ET
He didn’t sign in Vancouver to bolt after a year
- CanuckDon

Agree & didn’t see his point in being pessimistic. Idk why fans are fragile in regards to guessing players want to bolt. A beautiful city with passionate fans albeit difficult to please.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 15 @ 4:10 AM ET
He didn’t sign in Vancouver to bolt after a year
- CanuckDon


Exactly.

Before he even signed in free agency, Ilya Mikheyev was contributing to the Vancouver Canucks.

The speedy winger signed a four-year deal with the Canucks on Wednesday worth $4.75 million per year. Before that, he helped out in their recruitment efforts for the other Russian winger they signed on Wednesday, Andrei Kuzmenko.

"I spoke with Kuzy in Miami," said Mikheyev during a Thursday morning Zoom call. "We were in Miami at the same time and we had some lunch. He asked me about the NHL and he asked me about his options, [the offers] he got. And I tell him Vancouver is the best option for him.

"He thought a lot about Vancouver and another team but it's my opinion for him — I told him Vancouver is the best option for Kuzy."


Plus he's insulated with more Russians, should be a good spot for him to stick if he can hack it in the NHL.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 9:57 AM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

If Miller is here they'll be in.

Bet?

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 10:00 AM ET
I’m soooo glad Stetcher isn’t back. Canucks fans can’t let go
- CanuckDon

Actually had posters in here wanting Edler back on the cheap.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 10:06 AM ET
Thanks Carol!

Last Blog
- LordHumungous

If we were coming down the stretch, as a playoff bubble team (which we are), and this roster WITHOUT Miller, would you trade whatever the offers might have been at last deadline and or this draft for a shot at getting Miller? These assets might be a good prospect/high draft pick/ player. I don't think anyone on this site would make that trade as the team isn't ready to compete for a Cup.
That is what the Canucks are risking and have been risking up to this point. If Miller doesn't resign with us (and probably won't based just on our cap space alone) and walks for nothing with the team missing the playoffs or just getting in and facing Colorado and getting stomped, the team has wasted those possible assets. For a team like the Canucks that have missed the playoffs multiple years and have no real farm system to speak of, risking and losing possible assets like this is insane. There is a time to go for it, meaning the Cup (not just the playoffs) and there isn't. And in good conscience you think now is the time, and the team is ready to make a Cup run?

- carsonagenic


I'm not worried or concerned about a roster without Miller.

Priority is making the PO's next season with what we have. Not looking 5 years ahead after what we 'may or may not get' in some dream Miller deal that folks seem to want here.

We have one more year of Miller coming off his best year in the NHL. Need to capitalize and build off that currently.

If we lose him like Johnny Hockey then so what? We save the potential term and salary and could spend the money wisely somewhere else on the roster.

Personally I think the Flames are in great shape losing Gaudraue. Opens up huge possibilities and now if they can turf Tkachuk to STL that's 20 mil combined off the books. Spend the money on players that can actually perform in the PO's. Much potential in Calgary. Sorry to sidetrack but GM's here are comparing losing Miller for nothing like Johnny Hockey. Don't care. The time is now to see what we have under Boudreau next season.
noisewater
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jul 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
A Miller trade that nets us a top 4 RD and maybe another asset would be nice. Offloading one of OEL or Myers would also help out our cap crunch. Again, if I knew all the answers, I'd be JR/PA, not some schmoe on a hockey rumour board, complaining about the team.

I just see this team and how bad it was last year, and how much had to go right just for us to get where we ended up at the end and I don't see it as sustainable or even reality. I think players like Miller, EP40, Hughes and Demko are going to either take a step back or else plateau where they are. I think injuries are going to decimate us by Christmas and with no depth to at least let us tread water until the lineup is back.

I think our D is at the VERY best, questionable, and horrid at worst. I think losing one of Hughes, Myers or OEL will cause us to slide down the standings faster than you can say K-Y Jelly. But again, I'm only a Joe Schmoe, and what do I know.

- DariusKnight


So how exactly are they supposed to offload OEL or Myers without attaching assets, which they've said they won't do (which is the correct course of action).

...and in the very same post, you say that if they lose either of the two guys they "need to offload", the d will be horrid and slide to the bottom of the standings.

You sound like a spoiled little brat that doesn't understand logic or process.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
I'm not worried or concerned about a roster without Miller.

Priority is making the PO's next season with what we have. Not looking 5 years ahead after what we 'may or may not get' in some dream Miller deal that folks seem to want here.

We have one more year of Miller coming off his best year in the NHL. Need to capitalize and build off that currently.

If we lose him like Johnny Hockey then so what? We save the potential term and salary and could spend the money wisely somewhere else on the roster.

Personally I think the Flames are in great shape losing Gaudraue. Opens up huge possibilities and now if they can turf Tkachuk to STL that's 20 mil combined off the books. Spend the money on players that can actually perform in the PO's. Much potential in Calgary. Sorry to sidetrack but GM's here are comparing losing Miller for nothing like Johnny Hockey. Don't care. The time is now to see what we have under Boudreau next season.

- LordHumungous

Wow. Once again you're proving that you are not the brightest poster.
You can't make this shit up.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
So how exactly are they supposed to offload OEL or Myers without attaching assets, which they've said they won't do (which is the correct course of action).

...and in the very same post, you say that if they lose either of the two guys they "need to offload", the d will be horrid and slide to the bottom of the standings.

You sound like a spoiled little brat that doesn't understand logic or process.

- noisewater

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 10:26 AM ET
He didn’t sign in Vancouver to bolt after a year
- CanuckDon


If Horvat and Miller both sign, there won’t be money (if he has a good season)
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 15 @ 10:36 AM ET
So how exactly are they supposed to offload OEL or Myers without attaching assets, which they've said they won't do (which is the correct course of action).

...and in the very same post, you say that if they lose either of the two guys they "need to offload", the d will be horrid and slide to the bottom of the standings.

You sound like a spoiled little brat that doesn't understand logic or process.

- noisewater


I said it would be nice if we could offload them, I don't expect them to be able to do so without as you say giving up other assets, the point I was making is that the D core is questionable at best and horrid at worst and it needs changes. I understand logic and process just fine, I get that what I want isn't going to happen this year or next year and we're stuck with what we've got, I don't have to like it and I have the right to complain about it. Just as everyone can certainly like how everything went and is going if they do.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 10:42 AM ET
Wow. Once again you're proving that you are the brightest poster.
You can't make this shit up.

- Marwood

Keep circling the drain little champ. As long as you have your picks and prospects and the club goes nowhere for another 50 years you'll be soo happy...



LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 10:43 AM ET
So how exactly are they supposed to offload OEL or Myers without attaching assets, which they've said they won't do (which is the correct course of action).

...and in the very same post, you say that if they lose either of the two guys they "need to offload", the d will be horrid and slide to the bottom of the standings.

You sound like a spoiled little brat that doesn't understand logic or process.

- noisewater



Leader of #teamwhiner?

noisewater
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jul 15 @ 10:43 AM ET
I said it would be nice if we could offload them, I don't expect them to be able to do so without as you say giving up other assets, the point I was making is that the D core is questionable at best and horrid at worst and it needs changes. I understand logic and process just fine, I get that what I want isn't going to happen this year or next year and we're stuck with what we've got, I don't have to like it and I have the right to complain about it. Just as everyone can certainly like how everything went and is going if they do.
- DariusKnight


You kids and "your rights".

Just because you "have the right" to do something doesn't mean you should do it repeatedly ad nauseum.

The new management group has made moves to support the course of action that they think is appropriate given their salary cap and ownership constraints.

This ain't no instamatic type sh!t.

It's not perfect, but newsflash, nothing is... you might want to get accustomed to everything NOT going the exact way you think it should.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
You kids and "your rights".

Just because you "have the right" to do something doesn't mean you should do it repeatedly ad nauseum.

The new management group has made moves to support the course of action that they think is appropriate given their salary cap and ownership constraints.

This ain't no instamatic type sh!t.

It's not perfect, but newsflash, nothing is... you might want to get accustomed to everything NOT going the exact way you think it should.

- noisewater


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
I'm not worried or concerned about a roster without Miller.

Priority is making the PO's next season with what we have. Not looking 5 years ahead after what we 'may or may not get' in some dream Miller deal that folks seem to want here.

We have one more year of Miller coming off his best year in the NHL. Need to capitalize and build off that currently.

If we lose him like Johnny Hockey then so what? We save the potential term and salary and could spend the money wisely somewhere else on the roster.

Personally I think the Flames are in great shape losing Gaudraue. Opens up huge possibilities and now if they can turf Tkachuk to STL that's 20 mil combined off the books. Spend the money on players that can actually perform in the PO's. Much potential in Calgary. Sorry to sidetrack but GM's here are comparing losing Miller for nothing like Johnny Hockey. Don't care. The time is now to see what we have under Boudreau next season.

- LordHumungous

Try running that by a Leaf fan if they let AM walk for nothing lol
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
You kids and "your rights".

Just because you "have the right" to do something doesn't mean you should do it repeatedly ad nauseum.

The new management group has made moves to support the course of action that they think is appropriate given their salary cap and ownership constraints.

This ain't no instamatic type sh!t.

It's not perfect, but newsflash, nothing is... you might want to get accustomed to everything NOT going the exact way you think it should.

- noisewater


Really dude? No poop it's not perfect, but newsflash a$$hat, you shouldn't have to settle for mediocre and expect better. I'm 45 by the way, I guess I'm a fu¢king kid, compared to some on this board but whatever.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
Try running that by a Leaf fan if they let AM walk for nothing lol
- Nighthawk

lol you are comparing Miller to Matthews who was almost a genrational draft pick for the Leafs? We signed Miller and didn't draft or develop him lol. Just a tad different on how that plays out.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 10:55 AM ET

- Load Management

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
lol you are comparing Miller to Matthews who was almost a genrational draft pick for the Leafs? We signed Miller and didn't draft or develop him lol. Just a tad different on how that plays out.
- LordHumungous

I'm not surprised you missed his point entirely.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
I'm not surprised you missed his point entirely.
- Marwood


I think his point is that Miller isn’t nearly as important to the Canucks as Matthews is to the leafs, so trading him or losing him for nothing doesn’t really matter.
noisewater
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:09 AM ET
Really dude? No poop it's not perfect, but newsflash a$$hat, you shouldn't have to settle for mediocre and expect better. I'm 45 by the way, I guess I'm a fu¢king kid, compared to some on this board but whatever.
- DariusKnight


Haha... you're older than me and you come of like a child. Getting all upset and name calling...

Expect things to go exactly according to your plan in one hand and sh!t in the other and see which fills up faster.

Enjoy your day!
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
I'm not worried or concerned about a roster without Miller.

Priority is making the PO's next season with what we have. Not looking 5 years ahead after what we 'may or may not get' in some dream Miller deal that folks seem to want here.

We have one more year of Miller coming off his best year in the NHL. Need to capitalize and build off that currently.

If we lose him like Johnny Hockey then so what? We save the potential term and salary and could spend the money wisely somewhere else on the roster.

Personally I think the Flames are in great shape losing Gaudraue. Opens up huge possibilities and now if they can turf Tkachuk to STL that's 20 mil combined off the books. Spend the money on players that can actually perform in the PO's. Much potential in Calgary. Sorry to sidetrack but GM's here are comparing losing Miller for nothing like Johnny Hockey. Don't care. The time is now to see what we have under Boudreau next season.

- LordHumungous


I think that's up there with some of your dumbest hockey takes yet.

The Canucks aren't challenging for a cup next year, so they definitely should be looking 3, 5, 7 years out on how to build a perennial contender. That's the priority, not some Benning inspired hope to just make the dance.

If we lose him for nothing then that's terrible asset management. The Canucks farm/prospect/young player system isn't good, it needs to be added to, and Miller is the best/quickest way to do that.

Also, even if the Canucks gained a poop ton of cap space like Calgary, they'd either have to make trades for players to fill it up (which costs assets), or spend in UFA which is usually an overpayment in dollars and term for non-star players, or for older star players that are going to have anchoring contracts.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
I'm not worried or concerned about a roster without Miller.

Priority is making the PO's next season with what we have. Not looking 5 years ahead after what we 'may or may not get' in some dream Miller deal that folks seem to want here.

We have one more year of Miller coming off his best year in the NHL. Need to capitalize and build off that currently.

If we lose him like Johnny Hockey then so what? We save the potential term and salary and could spend the money wisely somewhere else on the roster.

Personally I think the Flames are in great shape losing Gaudraue. Opens up huge possibilities and now if they can turf Tkachuk to STL that's 20 mil combined off the books. Spend the money on players that can actually perform in the PO's. Much potential in Calgary. Sorry to sidetrack but GM's here are comparing losing Miller for nothing like Johnny Hockey. Don't care. The time is now to see what we have under Boudreau next season.

- LordHumungous


Some strong oil rig logic here
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:32 AM ET
Knot head.
- Marwood


Fixed
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
Jordie Benn to the Leafs. Good signing - $750k
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