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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
lol you are comparing Miller to Matthews who was almost a genrational draft pick for the Leafs? We signed Miller and didn't draft or develop him lol. Just a tad different on how that plays out.
- LordHumungous


We traded for Miller dumb dumb.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
I think that's up there with some of your dumbest hockey takes yet.

The Canucks aren't challenging for a cup next year, so they definitely should be looking 3, 5, 7 years out on how to build a perennial contender. That's the priority, not some Benning inspired hope to just make the dance.

If we lose him for nothing then that's terrible asset management. The Canucks farm/prospect/young player system isn't good, it needs to be added to, and Miller is the best/quickest way to do that.

Also, even if the Canucks gained a poop ton of cap space like Calgary, they'd either have to make trades for players to fill it up (which costs assets), or spend in UFA which is usually an overpayment in dollars and term for non-star players, or for older star players that are going to have anchoring contracts.

- NewYorkNuck

Exactly. Calgary actually had a decent window last year too, I wouldn’t have traded Johnny the way that team was playing. We don’t have that. Don’t have to look farther than our first defensive pair to see it.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jul 15 @ 11:36 AM ET
EK saying Kane is a deadline move....and Kadri not getting his monster deal (yet) might be good fr moving Miller + lowering Millers demands for a contract (helping raise trade value) - maybe....lol
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:37 AM ET
I think that's up there with some of your dumbest hockey takes yet.

The Canucks aren't challenging for a cup next year, so they definitely should be looking 3, 5, 7 years out on how to build a perennial contender. That's the priority, not some Benning inspired hope to just make the dance.

If we lose him for nothing then that's terrible asset management. The Canucks farm/prospect/young player system isn't good, it needs to be added to, and Miller is the best/quickest way to do that.

Also, even if the Canucks gained a poop ton of cap space like Calgary, they'd either have to make trades for players to fill it up (which costs assets), or spend in UFA which is usually an overpayment in dollars and term for non-star players, or for older star players that are going to have anchoring contracts.

- NewYorkNuck

Top 5, for sure.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
We traded for Miller dumb dumb.
- NewYorkNuck

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:40 AM ET
Apparently millennials are to blame for the current economic situation (high inflation). I knew those dirty millennials were at fault for something devious.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
This f*cking place is hilarious
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
Apparently millennials are to blame for the current economic situation (high inflation). I knew those dirty millennials were at fault for something devious.
- 1970vintage


It's because they've been conditioned to believe in mediocrity rather than meritocracy. Equity instead of equality and that it's ok to fail, because there will always be someone to clean up the mistakes.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
It's because they've been conditioned to believe in mediocrity rather than meritocracy. Equity instead of equality and that it's ok to fail, because there will always be someone to clean up the mistakes.
- DariusKnight


, that’s not what (this particular) economist said, but I like your reasoning better!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
Exactly.



Plus he's insulated with more Russians, should be a good spot for him to stick if he can hack it in the NHL.

- NewYorkNuck

👍🏻
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
Apparently millennials are to blame for the current economic situation (high inflation). I knew those dirty millennials were at fault for something devious.
- 1970vintage

I blame their parents.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
If Horvat and Miller both sign, there won’t be money (if he has a good season)
- 1970vintage

I’d imagine that there is less than a 5% chance Miller stays
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
Jordie Benn to the Leafs. Good signing - $750k
- 1970vintage

Do you remember when Benn played here? He sucks (sorry Vantel)
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Really think Kuzmenko addresses scoring? For the one panarin that comes over, there are several dozen shirokovs.
- Sayros

I think Kuzmenko has more of a Gusev 1st year. 40-50 points with 20g. Depends on pp1 or 2. We could see Bo drop to PP2 and give the 2nd unit more time each game. If Kuzmenko doesn't work on pp1, put Bo back there.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
So how exactly are they supposed to offload OEL or Myers without attaching assets, which they've said they won't do (which is the correct course of action).

...and in the very same post, you say that if they lose either of the two guys they "need to offload", the d will be horrid and slide to the bottom of the standings.

You sound like a spoiled little brat that doesn't understand logic or process.

- noisewater

Trading either is a mistake. Myers has positive value around the league. Just look at what a significantly worse Gudbranson got as a big RHD.
OEL needs to solidify our 2LD for a couple more years until someone younger beats him out for it.

Our best option for the next 5 years is to trade Garland for Marino or Carlo, sign Miller and Horvat to extensions and get rid of Pearson, Poolman(LTIR him with migrain issues?) and Richardinson next off season.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Apparently millennials are to blame for the current economic situation (high inflation). I knew those dirty millennials were at fault for something devious.
- 1970vintage


Why stop there? Millennials probably caused the housing crisis as well by not buying enough of them. Probably caused Covid too because of all the sarcasm. Maybe they even assassinated JFK?

In seriousness though, what was the reasoning this person gave as to why one specific age range of people is causing worldwide inflation?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
Why stop there? Millennials probably caused the housing crisis as well by not buying enough of them. Probably caused Covid too because of all the sarcasm. Maybe they even assassinated JFK?

In seriousness though, what was the reasoning this person gave as to why one specific age range of people is causing worldwide inflation?

- NewYorkNuck

Who knows what the nut job said but I can promise one thing. This is going to end very badly. The Bank of Canada is blowing it again. It’s remarkable they still don’t understand what’s causing inflation
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
, that’s not what (this particular) economist said, but I like your reasoning better!
- 1970vintage

😆 was gonna say not even remotely close
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
Who knows what the nut job said but I can promise one thing. This is going to end very badly. The Bank of Canada is blowing it again. It’s remarkable they still don’t understand what’s causing inflation
- CanuckDon


American fed are idiots too. Way behind the curve and trying to play catch up now.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
Who knows what the nut job said but I can promise one thing. This is going to end very badly. The Bank of Canada is blowing it again. It’s remarkable they still don’t understand what’s causing inflation
- CanuckDon


Pretty much every country is going through it right now – there are a lot of different factors.

Canada's sitting at 7.7%. The UK and the US are at 9.1%
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 15 @ 12:46 PM ET
PA has been playing this all day.

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:47 PM ET
Who knows what the nut job said but I can promise one thing. This is going to end very badly. The Bank of Canada is blowing it again. It’s remarkable they still don’t understand what’s causing inflation
- CanuckDon

They know. But the rich people causing it are probably using that wealth to shift the blame off of the.
They know what happens when poor people rise up out of the slavery they put us in.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:50 PM ET
Do you remember when Benn played here? He sucks (sorry Vantel)
- CanuckDon


Well he’s no Schenn, but he was far from THE problem. I’d take Benn @ $750k over Myers @ $6m every day.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 15 @ 12:50 PM ET
American fed are idiots too. Way behind the curve and trying to play catch up now.
- Nucker101

Stagflation is going to be so neat
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
I blame their parents.
- Marwood


Now now, don’t be hasty.
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