Opening night lineup is mostly a JB team. Was he terrible?
- Lunaion

on the margins, absolutely. But perhaps not as bad without Krueger.

Also worth mentioning that although Tage is a botterill guy, his move to C is an Adams/Granato bit.

Ditto Dahlin on the right if that works out well.

Do the Sabres feel compelled to sign or trade for 6 new pieces out of 20 players in july? No

Botts sucked but the good players are good regardless of who drafted who.

Dahlin is a mega star in waiting?

Does that mean that botts is good?
- Boss34

You called him terrible. Just don't think it's black and white. KA is basically following the same plan, and benefitting from what JB has done far more than JB benefitted from TM. Biggest difference is that there's 0 pressure on KA.

You called him terrible. Just don't think it's black and white. KA is basically following the same plan, and benefitting from what JB has done far more than JB benefitted from TM. Biggest difference is that there's 0 pressure on KA.
- Lunaion

Leaving aside his history of milquetoast moves that never moved the needle, he hired the worst coach in franchise history which, even taken by itself, is enough to call his tenure terrible

Leaving aside his history of milquetoast moves that never moved the needle, he hired the worst coach in franchise history which, even taken by itself, is enough to call his tenure terrible
- Hank Balling

KA year one is worse than anything JB ever did.

We signed a larry today

Leaving aside his history of milquetoast moves that never moved the needle, he hired the worst coach in franchise history which, even taken by itself, is enough to call his tenure terrible
- Hank Balling

pressure from the owners to win now after signing off on the trickle up plan botts had did not help

cinncy was a much better team once botts took over as was rochester

that was one of the many downfalls from tim murray, not giving a sh!t about the minor league teams

botts also said he was going to develop a fast pest team that was difficult to play against

the problem was, the players botts brought in after getting that pressure did not in any way work with the team botts envisioned at the presser

vessey, simmonds, wilson, sobotka, berglund, montour, scandella, pommer, lazar, sheahan, dot dot dot

We signed a larry today
- Sabretooth9

Which one?

Which one?
- The_Inkwell

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The Sabres have signed defenseman Lawrence Pilut to a one-year, $750,000 contract. Two-way deal. He's back with Buffalo after two seasons in the KHL.

pressure from the owners to win now after signing off on the trickle up plan botts had did not help

cinncy was a much better team once botts took over as was rochester

that was one of the many downfalls from tim murray, not giving a sh!t about the minor league teams

botts also said he was going to develop a fast pest team that was difficult to play against

the problem was, the players botts brought in after getting that pressure did not in any way work with the team botts envisioned at the presser

vessey, simmonds, wilson, sobotka, berglund, montour, scandella, pommer, lazar, sheahan, dot dot dot
- homiedclown

My lasting memory is that while the Sabres squandered another Eichel year and fans clamored for the Sabres to get a real center, he took 4 months to land Frolik and then acted like the proudest boy on the planet during the press conference

My lasting memory is that while the Sabres squandered the 10-game win streak and fans clamored for the Sabres to get a real center, he took 4 months to land Frolik and then acted like the proudest boy on the planet during the press conference
- Hank Balling

yeah that and phucking pilut over with the ahl all star game

pressure from the owners to win now after signing off on the trickle up plan botts had did not help

cinncy was a much better team once botts took over as was rochester

that was one of the many downfalls from tim murray, not giving a sh!t about the minor league teams

botts also said he was going to develop a fast pest team that was difficult to play against

the problem was, the players botts brought in after getting that pressure did not in any way work with the team botts envisioned at the presser

vessey, simmonds, wilson, sobotka, berglund, montour, scandella, pommer, lazar, sheahan, dot dot dot
- homiedclown

Except none of those guys are fast, like at all. Lazar maybe a bit, but the rest are/were some of the slowest guys in the league

Edit: Or was that your point?

Except none of those guys are fast, like at all. Lazar maybe a bit, but the rest are/were some of the slowest guys in the league
- Wetbandit1

this


the exact opposite of what he said at the presser

pressure from the owners to win now after signing off on the trickle up plan botts had did not help

cinncy was a much better team once botts took over as was rochester

that was one of the many downfalls from tim murray, not giving a sh!t about the minor league teams

botts also said he was going to develop a fast pest team that was difficult to play against

the problem was, the players botts brought in after getting that pressure did not in any way work with the team botts envisioned at the presser

vessey, simmonds, wilson, sobotka, berglund, montour, scandella, pommer, lazar, sheahan, dot dot dot
- homiedclown

And most of those trades and signings were made because we had nothing in are pipeline to fill areas of need on the roster.

last team to win the cup with almost everyone drafted within was the early 80's oilers who already had perhaps the greatest player ever on their team in the whl
- homiedclown

Stamkos, Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, Palat, Colton, Joseph, Hedman, Vasilesky all drafted and developed by Tampa.

Gourde and Johnson went undrafted but were developed within their AHL systems.

That’s like 90% of the reason Tampa won two cups.

They also don’t get Sergachev without an asset in Johnathen Drouin that they drafted 3rd overall

the (frank) I am.

Every single winner's best players are drafted. Except St Louis.

Prove me wrong.
- TheSabresTaco

They can’t.

again if this team gets 65 points next year

what do you do


still waiting for the first answer from the people with fire and pitchforks
- homiedclown

Draft Bedard, Michkov, or Fantilli and fill the last remaining glaring hole the team has in a legitimate Superstar 1C.

I would then make the moves Detroit made this year. Bring Kane home if need be

Stamkos, Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, Palat, Colton, Joseph, Hedman, Vasilesky all drafted and developed by Tampa.

Gourde and Johnson went undrafted but were developed within their AHL systems.

That’s like 90% of the reason Tampa won two cups.

They also don’t get Sergachev without an asset in Johnathen Drouin that they drafted 3rd overall
- Pegullaville

shat, serg, cernak, mcdonagh, maroon, rutta, coleman, goodrow, savard, bogo

they all played a part as well which is half the roster of skaters

They can’t.
- Pegullaville

ducks cup says otherwise

Draft Bedard, Michkov, or Fantilli and fill the last remaining glaring hole the team has in a legitimate Superstar 1C.

I would then make the moves Detroit made this year. Bring Kane home if need be
- Pegullaville

2 of those 3 guys are centers

shat, serg, cernak, mcdonagh, maroon, rutta, coleman, goodrow, savard, bogo

they all played a part as well which is half the roster of skaters
- homiedclown

Sure, and for the most part Tampa could have found other names to fill those spots and still won 2 cups

ducks cup says otherwise
- homiedclown

Getzlaf and Perry

Getzlaf and Perry
- Pegullaville

Selanne, Pronger, and Niedermayer would like a word.

1, 5, and 3 regular season scoring

T2, T2, 8 in playoff scoring

Hell, Rob Niedermayer was 9 in playoff scoring

Edit: Only 3 of their top 10 point getters in the playoffs were draft picks

Sure, and for the most part Tampa could have found other names to fill those spots and still won 2 cups
- Pegullaville

But the point is that they didn't have to go outside and spend big money. And nobody is saying that is the only way to do it, it just happens to be the best and most likely way to get there.

But the point is that they didn't have to go outside and spend big money. And nobody is saying that is the only way to do it, it just happens to be the best and most likely way to get there.
- Slump Buster

Even better is when you trade away 2 homegrown star players for a 2nd liner and some scratch offs.

Pilut is waiver exempt for 5 more NHL games. Might hurt his chances to make the team out of camp.