IndianaSabresFan
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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Stop with the queer takes.
Female Redheads intrigue me.
Queue Homie's pic posts. - IonSabres
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Meh, whether you’re Buffalo or Colorado I don’t think it’s ever wise to spend big dough on July 1st.
Even the Filip Forsberg’s of the world will have contracts that age terribly.
Draft and develop your own talent, use free agency to address bottom 6 depth, and use trades to put you over the top.
The Sabres have more than enough assets if they want to acquire someone in a trade.
Next offseason the best prospect pool in the league will be another year older too and ready to contribute more. - Pegullaville
Sabres are drafting and developing. 1 move to acquire a very good 24 or 25yr old wouldn't have hurt them, actually might help develop the young kids. |
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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- IndianaSabresFan
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I think they genuinely want to give their younger players a chance.
Perhaps Pegula’s pockets has something to do with it, at the same time they have 13 forwards right now for 12 spots. As it currently stands if Quinn and Peterka are to skate a regular shift they will have to bury somebody making decent dough.
This year is a make or break year for Mittelstadt, Joker, and UPL. Also, we will see if Tage’s season was a one off, or if he can be counted on as a bonafide top 6 Center option long term. Also another year to see what Cozens and Krebs will be able to bring to the table.
By next offseason there are less questions, and it’s not like the salary cap flexibility is going anywhere. - Pegullaville
Like I said, holding pattern. No decisions, just keep watching the same guys again. Very likely to continue into 23/24 at this rate. There's no one set to be pushing next year. Maybe Savoie, probably 50/50. No one on D. UPL's spot is waiting for him. It isn't necessarily make or break for anyone this year, even if it should be.
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Like I said, holding pattern. No decisions, just keep watching the same guys again. Very likely to continue into 23/24 at this rate. There's no one set to be pushing next year. Maybe Savoie, probably 50/50. No one on D. UPL's spot is waiting for him. It isn't necessarily make or break for anyone this year, even if it should be. - Lunaion
The answers very well may come internally. I think it’s realistic that Tage and Cozens could be the top 2 Centers on a playoff team.
If Mitts and Joker don’t take the next steps though, those are two guys that would have to be upgraded on regardless. They would be easy throw ins with picks for a man established forward while Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund, Rosen… all develop |
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The answers very well may come internally. I think it’s realistic that Tage and Cozens could be the top 2 Centers on a playoff team.
If Mitts and Joker don’t take the next steps though, those are two guys that would have to be upgraded on regardless. They would be easy throw ins with picks for a man established forward while Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund, Rosen… all develop - Pegullaville
If you had to bet right now on Mitts, Joker, UPL, VO, Okposo, and Girgs being on this team in 23/24. The over/under is probably 4.5. It's very easy to imagine all 6 being back.
23/24 is another 'focus on Roch' year, this time with better prospects.
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Meh, whether you’re Buffalo or Colorado I don’t think it’s ever wise to spend big dough on July 1st.
Even the Filip Forsberg’s of the world will have contracts that age terribly.
Draft and develop your own talent, use free agency to address bottom 6 depth, and use trades to put you over the top.
The Sabres have more than enough assets if they want to acquire someone in a trade.
Next offseason the best prospect pool in the league will be another year older too and ready to contribute more. - Pegullaville
On the bold, if you are Toronto for example, when the contracts of Matthews and Marner are up, are you extending both to big AAV long term 7/8 year deals when they'll be 27 and 28 respectively? |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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On the bold, if you are Toronto for example, when the contracts of Matthews and Marner are up, are you extending both to big AAV long term 7/8 year deals when they'll be 27 and 28 respectively? - kingcong39
Wonder what a trade involving Mitch would bring back.
He would be the guy I would consider trading out if I were Dumbass., but his contract goes for 3 more seasons, Mattnews has 2 left, bringing him to an age of late 26.
Clearly the guy to get rid of on that roster is Tavares, which supports the exact argument that Pegs put forth. |
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Man, nice to sleep until 7, Don't know how refreshing getting 4 or 5hrs of sleep really can be.
Know to Hockey. Very impressed with Kulich and I know he is a prospect and young but he doesn't look to be that far off. Lunaion pointed it out but does he go to Rochester or the Eagles. Really has nothing left to prove overseas. |
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Man, nice to sleep until 7, Don't know how refreshing getting 4 or 5hrs of sleep really can be.
Know to Hockey. Very impressed with Kulich and I know he is a prospect and young but he doesn't look to be that far off. Lunaion pointed it out but does he go to Rochester or the Eagles. Really has nothing left to prove overseas. - Buff36
I think he can play in Rochester next year? |
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Wonder what a trade involving Mitch would bring back.
He would be the guy I would consider trading out if I were Dumbass., but his contract goes for 3 more seasons, Mattnews has 2 left, bringing him to an age of late 26.
Clearly the guy to get rid of on that roster is Tavares, which supports the exact argument that Pegs put forth. - IonSabres
Tavares was 28 when he signed that stupid contract. The players the Sabres had a chance to try and pluck, that went pretty cheap were only 24-25. Pegs argument would be true for Tavares. Start getting players in that late 27-28-29 range and 7 or 8yr contracts could be a problem(Skinner). A little different when the player just turned 25 or younger. |
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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I think he can play in Rochester next year? - Sabretooth9
He can, just where do the Sabres want him to play, got drafted really high by the Eagles. Funny thing to is Chadd Cassidy is the HC for Cape Breton |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Tavares was 28 when he signed that stupid contract. The players the Sabres had a chance to try and pluck, that went pretty cheap were only 24-25. Pegs argument would be true for Tavares. Start getting players in that late 27-28-29 range and 7 or 8yr contracts could be a problem(Skinner). A little different when the player just turned 25 or younger. - Buff36
just say no to the future matt moulsons |
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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just say no to the future matt moulsons - homiedclown
I really don't understand sometimes. I think most are very Happy with the development of the the young players. And drafting and building up the pipeline. But very rarely do teams have the assets and Cap space like the Sabres had and have and very good hockey players become available, let alone very young hockey players for pretty cheap prices. 1 move would not have killed the progress of these young players or the number 1 rated pipeline. I get what they are doing, but more good hockey players help your team and if the prospects prosper it gives you more assets to use down the road for other pieces needed to fill a area of need. Complacency!! |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I really don't understand sometimes. I think most are very Happy with the development of the the young players. And drafting and building up the pipeline. But very rarely do teams have the assets and Cap space like the Sabres had and have and very good hockey players become available, let alone very young hockey players for pretty cheap prices. 1 move would not have killed the progress of these young players or the number 1 rated pipeline. I get what they are doing, but more good hockey players help your team and if the prospects prosper it gives you more assets to use down the road for other pieces needed to fill a area of need. Complacency!! - Buff36 HOW DARE YOU EXPECT THEM TO TRY TO WIN MORE GAMES THEN THEY WILL LOSE THIS SEASON
YOU PEOPLE
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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On the bold, if you are Toronto for example, when the contracts of Matthews and Marner are up, are you extending both to big AAV long term 7/8 year deals when they'll be 27 and 28 respectively? - kingcong39
Where would Toronto be right now if they kept Kadri and didn’t spend the additional $7 million on a Center falling off a cliff ?
Matthews and Marner are top 3 players at their positions in the world, they would be the exceptions to the rule.
Show me the big ticket free agent that Tampa, Colorado, or heck even St.Louis had on their cup rosters the last few years. |
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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HOW DARE YOU EXPECT THEM TO TRY TO WIN MORE GAMES THEN THEY WILL LOSE THIS SEASON
YOU PEOPLE
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I am on the back half, I would like to see both my favorite teams win the Big One. One team seems to have put the Turbo Charger on and is ready to rock. The other seems like Groundhog Day |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Where would Toronto be right now if they kept Kadri and didn’t spend the additional $7 million on a Center falling off a cliff ?
Matthews and Marner are top 3 players at their positions in the world, they would be the exceptions to the rule.
Show me the big ticket free agent that Tampa, Colorado, or heck even St.Louis had on their cup rosters the last few years. - Pegullaville
they would still be a team lacking secondary scoring in the playoffs |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I am on the back half, I would like to see both my favorite teams win the Big One. One team seems to have put the Turbo Charger on and is ready to rock. The other seems like Groundhog Day - Buff36
why do you come here to be negative everyday
you act as if this team has missed the playoffs for 11 years
clearly they are trying their best to get players, without picking up the phone or offering contracts
I mean this isn't a hockey chatroom |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Tavares was 28 when he signed that stupid contract. The players the Sabres had a chance to try and pluck, that went pretty cheap were only 24-25. Pegs argument would be true for Tavares. Start getting players in that late 27-28-29 range and 7 or 8yr contracts could be a problem(Skinner). A little different when the player just turned 25 or younger. - Buff36
Wasn't he talking about UFA spending (traditionally done on July 1st)?
Players traditionally achieve UFA status at age 27, hence the concern of 7 year deals having a negative impact during the last years.
I agree, trades are different, which is what the Cat deal was.
Who was a UFA at 24-25?
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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why do you come here to be negative everyday
you act as if this team has missed the playoffs for 11 years
clearly they are trying their best to get players, without picking up the phone or offering contracts
I mean this isn't a hockey chatroom - homiedclown
Sorry!! I feel shame |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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wi
Show me the big ticket free agent that Tampa, Colorado, or heck even St.Louis had on their cup rosters the last few years. - Pegullaville
you just saw a team get the best goalie in free agency and win the cup that year
wings hossa
nieds signed with ducks
bruins chara
that's with 5 minutes of thoughts
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Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Wasn't he talking about UFA spending (traditionally done on July 1st)?
Players traditionally achieve UFA status at age 27, hence the concern of 7 year deals having a negative impact during the last years.
I agree, trades are different, which is what the Cat deal was.
Who was a UFA at 24-25? - IonSabres
No one, but Cat or Fiala still need contracts if you were to trade for them. Either way your still spending money. |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Where would Toronto be right now if they kept Kadri and didn’t spend the additional $7 million on a Center falling off a cliff ?
Matthews and Marner are top 3 players at their positions in the world, they would be the exceptions to the rule.
Show me the big ticket free agent that Tampa, Colorado, or heck even St.Louis had on their cup rosters the last few years. - Pegullaville
The bold is what I was trying to gauge.
There are always exceptions, and that's the difficult part.
Is Forsberg considered an exception? |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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You may turn out to be 100% correct, but I see it completely different.
I also do not have insider info, so I can't proclaim to know what is going on inside the inner circle. Also, if finances are driving the bus, I can't blame them after having attendance and therefore Revenues plunge for a combination of reasons, while expenses remained very high.
I however dont believe finances are driving the bus completely...influencing yes, driving no.
Rather, I believe the organization has done a complete reset; focusing on a realistic timeline and proper investments tied directly to the timeline. The timeline, and therefore correlated investments are driven by the development process.
So, you are right that finances at this time are being withheld/limited ... but it is to enable the development and evaluation processes to accelerate...not the opposite of finances controlling investments for the sole purpose of making the P&L Statement better. - IonSabres
Excellent post
I think you hit this 100%.
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