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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
Sam, Ullmark, and Montour are the egregious ones.
- Lunaion


Are you freaking kidding me?

Sam was the result of years of bad management. He had understandably had enough.

Ullmark was similar. He would have stayed but he told them they had to overpay for him to stay.

Montour. Seriously?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
Are you freaking kidding me?

Sam was the result of years of bad management. He had understandably had enough.

Ullmark was similar. He would have stayed but he told them they had to overpay for him to stay.

Montour. Seriously?

- Slump Buster


I hope you're seeing that signing them to 1 year deals put them in those situations. They dug their own hole, no shock that they also fell into it.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 18 @ 2:01 PM ET
https://youtu.be/16zbdjSM5mI

New defensemen press conference

Which someone needs to give a easy nickname to

- Anderdog

defense larry
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:06 PM ET
I just outlined why you'd doubt them. KA let an entire age group of players under team control leave for a fraction of their value. If you screw it up first time around, you deserve a healthy dose of skepticism the second time.
- Lunaion

Who are these undersold Ayers he let go?
Seriously, not being a wise guy, I'm not following.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
defense larry
- SabresFaninIndiana


Larrybushkin?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:20 PM ET
Sam, Ullmark, and Montour are the egregious ones.
- Lunaion


The egregious one for me is Montour. He was pretty decent, but was redundant with Risto at the time.
I called it out several times back then that they needed to trade one or the other. At that time, wasn't that on Botts?
Then Adam's traded him for a 3rd after Krueger fvcked his value with scratches and playing wing, playing left-side.

He got decent value for Sam, IF Levi plans out.

Ullmark was a failure akin to the Drury Briere fiasco.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 18 @ 2:22 PM ET
I hope you're seeing that signing them to 1 year deals put them in those situations. They dug their own hole, no shock that they also fell into it.
- Lunaion


Just how long do you think that Adams has been running this team? The organization completely messed up Reinhart. That said, I still think he would have wanted out but we could have gotten a little more for him if he had more term left. He didn't walk away, we got value back.

Also, you forgot that Ullmark had issues staying healthy and there was probably some desire to not get locked into a long-term deal with a guy that can't stay on the ice.

Montour? That's the proof that you started with your belief and tried to work backwards. I don't even know if we wanted to keep him. We traded him and got something back. Based on his next deal it doesn't seem like he was in demand in any way.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
Sam, Ullmark, and Montour are the egregious ones.
- Lunaion



Ullmark was fine. I’m not sure why people care he left. He’s done nothing on the bruins that says we should miss him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
This was 3 years ago...
- DirtyDan

don't care

if your not all in from day 1, I have no use for you
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
I wouldn't blame him being out of shape 3 years ago as to why he had down numbers.. He looked the part at the beginning of last season and then got sidelined by a freak injury.

That being said I can't see anyone being mad for moving on from him. He could probably use new scenery and we need space for the rooks.

- DirtyDan

I surround my self with self starters, not with lazy people
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
Just how long do you think that Adams has been running this team? The organization completely messed up Reinhart. That said, I still think he would have wanted out but we could have gotten a little more for him if he had more term left. He didn't walk away, we got value back.

Also, you forgot that Ullmark had issues staying healthy and there was probably some desire to not get locked into a long-term deal with a guy that can't stay on the ice.

Montour? That's the proof that you started with your belief and tried to work backwards. I don't even know if we wanted to keep him. We traded him and got something back. Based on his next deal it doesn't seem like he was in demand in any way.

- Slump Buster


I just remember most fans having heart attacks and saying he couldn't stop a beach ball.
I was shocked when Boston gave him that contract, now they want to get rid of him but can't.

All gloom and doom.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
The egregious one for me is Montour. He was pretty decent, but was redundant with Risto at the time.
.

- IonSabres


didn't the soccer czar play him as a winger for stretches of games?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
don't care

if your not all in from day 1, I have no use for you

- homiedclown


Then you should be jumping up and down raving about at least this draft class.
They have their "prospect profile" and from the early reviews, it seems the profile is a good one.

This team is headed in the right direct at last. Obviously a bit slow for some.
I'm very good with letting this season play out.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Then you should be jumping up and down raving about at least this draft class.
They have their "prospect profile" and from the early reviews, it seems the profile is a good one.

This team is headed in the right direct at last. Obviously a bit slow for some.
I'm very good with letting this season play out.

- IonSabres

I think all three of these kids will be better then casey in the nhl
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
I just remember most fans having heart attacks and saying he couldn't stop a beach ball.
I was shocked when Boston gave him that contract, now they want to get rid of him but can't.

All gloom and doom.

- IonSabres

I would take 41 starts and anything close to a 2.45Gaa and .917 save %. Anything close to that and we win 10-12 more games last year.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
didn't the soccer czar play him as a winger for stretches of games?
- homiedclown


Yup, tinkering with the flying torpedo as his system.
What a complete asshat
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Yup, tinkering with the flying torpedo as his system.
What a complete asshat

- IonSabres

Whiner!!🙂🙂
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Ullmark was fine. I’m not sure why people care he left. He’s done nothing on the bruins that says we should miss him
- Sabretooth9


This whole line started with the idea that they've been too indecisive with prospects and their hesitancy has hurt them.

The market valued Ullmark at 4x5. We got nothing. A year earlier, when he was under team control, and they had the opportunity to move him or give him a multi-year extension, they opted for a 1 year. That's inexcusable asset management by a rookie GM.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
Then you should be jumping up and down raving about at least this draft class.
They have their "prospect profile" and from the early reviews, it seems the profile is a good one.

This team is headed in the right direct at last. Obviously a bit slow for some.
I'm very good with letting this season play out.

- IonSabres

There are a greater number of interesting players to watch this season than last…hopefully…roster is not yet set.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
didn't the soccer czar play him as a winger for stretches of games?
- homiedclown


that one's gotta go on JB
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Larrybushkin?
- Hank Balling

Larrabushkin. No y. It's French,
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
I think all three of these kids will be better then casey in the nhl
- homiedclown


Their Prospect Profile started with Quinn, an all-in kinda guy who wants nothing but to become the absolute best he can be and is driven to succeed at it. It is a winner's trait.

They doubled down on it with many other picks since then.

Not all will make it, but this team is going to be absolutely stacked IMO. I absolutely love the prospects coming at them in waves.
It is why I can hang in there for another year.

As the elder poop-head in the posting group, I should be the one screaming for immediate results, but I see the plan and agree with it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
This whole line started with the idea that they've been too indecisive with prospects and their hesitancy has hurt them.

The market valued Ullmark at 4x5. We got nothing. A year earlier, when he was under team control, and they had the opportunity to move him or give him a multi-year extension, they opted for a 1 year. That's inexcusable asset management by a rookie GM.

- Lunaion

Kick the Can
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
Texas power grid, lol.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 2:59 PM ET
Their Prospect Profile started with Quinn, an all-in kinda guy who wants nothing but to become the absolute best he can be and is driven to succeed at it. It is a winner's trait.

They doubled down on it with many other picks since then.

Not all will make it, but this team is going to be absolutely stacked IMO. I absolutely love the prospects coming at them in waves.
It is why I can hang in there for another year.

As the elder poop-head in the posting group, I should be the one screaming for immediate results, but I see the plan and agree with it.

- IonSabres

I like a lot of what is going on to, a lot of talent coming up. It's a important couple years for this Organization.
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