This was hilarious when you posted it the first 4,567 times
- Slump Buster

Was it funny when you read it 4,567 times?

Most points Stone has had in a season is 73
Tkachuk has beat that twice, and last season had over 100pts

It seems pretty clear that bc of Tkachuk’s offensive upside, he’ll get a better return
- jdfitz77

stone has been a ppg player for the last 5 years

the other, not even close until this year

I see cozens as the third liner, if we get decent
- homiedclown

Cozens has higher offensive upside to Girgs imo
I see Cozens more like Drury
If he’s our 3C, we’ll be in really good shape most likely

This was hilarious when you posted it the first 4,567 times
- Slump Buster

Well isn't that what 3/4 of the board has said we can't bring in this player or that player because they would block a prospect.

stone has been a ppg player for the last 5 years

the other, not even close until this year
- homiedclown

Isn’t the discussion about what Stone got in a trade vs what Tkachuk will get?

Using Stone’s stats whil on VGK have nothing to do with the trade value he had when Ottawa moved him

Cozens has higher offensive upside to Girgs imo
I see Cozens more like Drury
If he’s our 3C, we’ll be in really good shape most likely
- jdfitz77

I hope he develops a 2 way game like Anthony Cirelli

Isn’t the discussion about what Stone got in a trade vs what Tkachuk will get?

Using Stone’s stats whil on VGK have nothing to do with the trade value he had when Ottawa moved him
- jdfitz77

stone was better than a ppg player in each of his last two years with the sens

Tkachuk broke out this year

Well isn't that what 3/4 of the board has said we can't bring in this player or that player because they would block a prospect.
- Buff36

when we signed bishop, they said wait for free agency, to see what happens

now they say we didn't need player x or y


trust the 11 year miserable process



BE NICE

Well isn't that what 3/4 of the board has said we can't bring in this player or that player because they would block a prospect.
- Buff36

Not really
It’s twisting things

A guy like Copp for example, can block a young player with a higher upside from being here

We don’t really have anyone with higher upside than Tkachuk though
He would add significantly to the top end of our talent pool, and that would be worth it

Copp, Marchment, etc etc are 3rd liners on a good team

There’s quite a difference

Not really
It’s twisting things

A guy like Copp for example, can block a young player with a higher upside from being here

We don’t really have anyone with higher upside than Tkachuk though
He would add significantly to the top end of our talent pool, and that would be worth it

Copp, Marchment, etc etc are 3rd liners on a good team

There’s quite a difference
- jdfitz77

copp today would be our 3 best guy up front all around though

stone was better than a ppg player in each of his last two years with the sens

Tkachuk broke out this year
- homiedclown

Tkachuk also had a season with 34goals & 77pts in 80games
That’s pretty damn good

Tkachuk also had a season with 34goals & 77pts in 80games
That’s pretty damn good
- jdfitz77

let's see what he does w/o johnny putting up 100 points on the other wing

stone had boedker??? on his wing

Not sure if you saw earlier, or maybe I missed it, but why is he worth double what Stone got in a reasonably similar situation?
- Lunaion

I mean couldn’t one theoretically use Debrincat as a comp? Wingers have seemed to not get their worth going on a couple of trades now.

copp today would be our 3 best guy up front all around though
- homiedclown

I’m not saying i don’t like Copp
He is a decent player

I just don’t care about the race to 9th place though

The way we get to be *legitimately* good is by developing our young talent that we’ve been drafting

Last thing we wanna do is turn Cozens into Girgs bc we need to bring in 3rd line quality guys to play ahead of him

let's see what he does w/o johnny putting up 100 points on the other wing

stone had boedker??? on his wing
- homiedclown

What is the point you’re trying to make here?
Is it that Tkachuk isn’t good?
Bc he is good- really good

What is the point you’re trying to make here?
Is it that Tkachuk isn’t good?
Bc he is good- really good
- jdfitz77

Stone, at the time of the trade, was better IMO

Not really
It’s twisting things

A guy like Copp for example, can block a young player with a higher upside from being here

We don’t really have anyone with higher upside than Tkachuk though
He would add significantly to the top end of our talent pool, and that would be worth it

Copp, Marchment, etc etc are 3rd liners on a good team

There’s quite a difference
- jdfitz77

Copp is a good hockey player, been in the Selke voting 3yrs in a row, his offensive production has gone up 2yrs in a row, he could help this young team. And what am I twisting about blocking prospects that was said even before Copp or Tkachuk were brought up.

I mean couldn’t one theoretically use Debrincat as a comp? Wingers have seemed to not get their worth going on a couple of trades now.
- SDSabre

Sure, but the presumed extension is a big part of this.

I mean couldn’t one theoretically use Debrincat as a comp? Wingers have seemed to not get their worth going on a couple of trades now.
- SDSabre

True
But all the experts also said that Chicago didn’t get enough in that deal either

Tough to say exactly what Tkachuk will get,
but I’d think it’s safe to say it’ll be significant

Stone, at the time of the trade, was better IMO
- homiedclown

Ok
But the discussion was about what we’d have to give up to get Tkachuk
You’ve kinda been all over the board here

What do u think it would take to get Tkachuk?
And should we do it, or not?

True
But all the experts also said that Chicago didn’t get enough in that deal either

Tough to say exactly what Tkachuk will get,
but I’d think it’s safe to say it’ll be significant
- jdfitz77

Same thing was said about Buch and Sam (not comparing them to him, but along with Debrinct those would be the 3 highest profile wingers)

Copp is a good hockey player, been in the Selke voting 3yrs in a row, his offensive production has gone up 2yrs in a row, he could help this young team. And what am I twisting about blocking prospects that was said even before Copp or Tkachuk were brought up.
- Buff36

Bc anyone who said stuff about blocking prospects was not sayin that in reference to bringing in a high end talent like Tkachuk, DeBrincat, Fiala, etc

Sure, but the presumed extension is a big part of this.
- Lunaion

And what if he says (frank) off Calgary, I’m going to go where I want in 12 months. You can figure out if you want to trade me now or then. Tough to say, but the only team that would feel comfortable with him would be St Louis on a one year deal imo

Same thing was said about Buch and Sam (not comparing them to him, but along with Debrinct those would be the 3 highest profile wingers)
- SDSabre

Hey, if Tkachuk comes even cheaper than projected, than I’m all for it

I’m for it even if we have to give up “a lot”

Bc anyone who said stuff about blocking prospects was not sayin that in reference to bringing in a high end talent like Tkachuk, DeBrincat, Fiala, etc
- jdfitz77

Why keep talking about him, no chance in hell he comes here and the Sabres won't pay him or the other 2 guys you mentioned. They didn't even have interest in getting them.