SBroads... he virtually said it without using those exact words.

'They don't have a starting caliber Goalie, that is on Adams. No excuses.'

And it has been mocked by many ad nauseam.
- IonSabres

Well was talking about Tkachuk, and he isn't really wrong.

if the dud truly is good he doesn't need to block anyone.. there is this thing called the trade market
- SabresFaninIndiana

Understand that, kinda my point. Having more good hockey players is good for your team, it gives you more usable assets down the road.

is this now "Hockey Heaven"?
- hehateme

Not until lacaprup is in charge

yea that could get him fired.
- ImThatGuy

But SHOULD IT?

I mean, he's not doing his job.

Is it not part of the GM’s job to get people to sign with his team?

Also it very much is twisting what I said.
- ImThatGuy

Yes, it is his job to jedi mind-trick people into doing what he wants.

But SHOULD IT?

I mean, he's not doing his job.
- Powerslave

Luckily as i said last time, that's not my decision, that's the teams and the owners.

The same thing I said with Adams, that you somehow turned into this,

If a UFA doesn't want to stay even though he is offered more money than anywhere else on the planet how is that "letting them Leave"?

I guess Adams let Eichel leave too? And now Adams should be fired because we are worse off? (We aren't but that is what you are implying with Tkachuk)
- sabresfan69

Just like if a player doesn't want to sign or be traded to certain organizations, that's on the GM? Because it's been said on here.

"That's his job" to get them signed or re-signed.

Not my quote.

Yes, it is his job to jedi mind-trick people into doing what he wants.


- Slump Buster

So what is Free Agency then?
Is that not convincing people to sign here, or is that different?

Just like if a player doesn't want to sign or be traded to certain organizations, that's on the GM? Because it's been said on here.

"That's his job" to get them signed or re-signed.

Not my quote.
- Powerslave

So are we giving Adams credit for trying?

Understand that, kinda my point. Having more good hockey players is good for your team, it gives you more usable assets down the road.
- Buff36

exactly.. and it wasn't like we would have wasted assets getting him

Ok
But the discussion was about what we’d have to give up to get Tkachuk
You’ve kinda been all over the board here

What do u think it would take to get Tkachuk?
And should we do it, or not?
- jdfitz77

we will not be going after him, so it would be a waste of bandwidth to have a conversation on the topic

I would throw them casey, 2023 unprotected first and joker

but this would have been done before free agency so the sabres pivot from their waiting game approach

Which Tkachuk is buddies with Eichel?

I’m sure our former fearless leader told him to stay the hell away from Buffalo.

is this now "Hockey Heaven"?
- hehateme

So what is Free Agency then?
Is that not convincing people to sign here, or is that different?
- ImThatGuy

It is trying to convince people to sign with you. That's all you can do.

Also, by your logic if one GM could jedi mind-trick everyone then all of the other GMs would be fired for not having magical mental powers.

So are we giving Adams credit for trying?
- ImThatGuy

he gets the same participation trophy as the players get each season

go f youself
- homiedclown

I will, just as soon as we craft the letters to Tampa and Colorado telling them they did it wrong by building from within. Surely they didn't get the memo that you can just kick the can down the road. They are going to feel really silly.

exactly.. and it wasn't like we would have wasted assets getting him
- SabresFaninIndiana

That's why this Tkachuk thing would be way out of whack. You had extra ammo this year and didn't want to use it on players that where acquired pretty cheaply. But now it's alright to probably give are 1st next year in a loaded draft, and probably one of Quinn or JJ ++, I don't know. Thank God Football has started.

So are we giving Adams credit for trying?
- ImThatGuy

#fireTreliving

It is trying to convince people to sign with you. That's all you can do.

Also, by your logic if one GM could jedi mind-trick everyone then all of the other GMs would be fired for not having magical mental powers.
- Slump Buster

You are the only one using Jedi mind tricks.

you and Powerslave love to take things to a whole new level in which nobody actually has said and turn it into something.

#fireTreliving
- Powerslave

So by that account Tim Murray also deserves credit for trying, yes?

I will, just as soon as we craft the letters to Tampa and Colorado telling them they did it wrong by building from within. Surely they didn't get the memo that you can just kick the can down the road. They are going to feel really silly.
- Slump Buster

neither took 11 years between playoff series

this franchise has set the lowest bar ever in the NHL


you got a zillion prosects now from sh!tty seasons in the pipeline


everyone says 1 more year, every freaking off season

time for the team, the gm, the owner, to put their big boy pants on and start competing again instead of looking like Oliver and say thank you may I have another for each seasons lottery picks

I will, just as soon as we craft the letters to Tampa and Colorado telling them they did it wrong by building from within. Surely they didn't get the memo that you can just kick the can down the road. They are going to feel really silly.
- Slump Buster

so Colorado whos team was primarily made up of traded players was "Draft and develop"

That's why this Tkachuk thing would be way out of whack. You had extra ammo this year and didn't want to use it on players that where acquired pretty cheaply. But now it's alright to probably give are 1st next year in a loaded draft, and probably one of Quinn or JJ ++, I don't know. Thank God Football has started.
- Buff36

that ship sailed when we traded for bishop, and then kept the band together to get to the floor


it's not about icing the best team, it's about being afraid to make hockey decisions

So by that account Tim Murray also deserves credit for trying, yes?
- ImThatGuy

Tim Murray made things happen.

His plan just sucked.

Luckily as i said last time, that's not my decision, that's the teams and the owners.

The same thing I said with Adams, that you somehow turned into this,
- ImThatGuy

Look at you thatguy:

Getting called out for your constant crying and complaining.

Twisted words ..... 😀😀😀😀😀😀

Not my decision, but more and more tears